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Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 01:22 Go to next message
Dave Anderson is currently offline  Dave Anderson
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I have been doing a substantial amount of work on my website this past week. I have been introducing myself to ASP.NET 2.0 to better get a grip on better web development practices. Of course though, I had to run into some trouble. I've been developing my site in Visual Studio and viewing it in FireFox. I just noticed a few minutes ago that when viewing my site in IE7, the entire layout is ruined. I'm not sure if this will occur on earlier versions if IE or not, but I was wondering if you guys could view my website and provide me with some feedback as to if the layout is ruined on your IE browsers as well.

Ew...: http://www.dcmp.z27.net/ugly.jpg
Linky: http://www.dcmp.z27.net/

Thanks if you help..

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235385 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Goztow is currently offline  Goztow
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First link gives 404.

This is what it looks like in iexplorer 7 for me:

index.php?t=getfile&id=2193&private=0
  • Attachment: k.PNG
    (Size: 114.29KB, Downloaded 404 times)


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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235388 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Anderson is currently offline  Dave Anderson
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I just don't get it. It looks perfect in FireFox, yet IE kills it, for example this is what the administration pages look like in IE:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4373/uglyxh0.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9042/ugly2wc9.jpg

I guess I will just have to spend a good amount of time looking through the code for problems...

Thanks, though, Goztow.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235389 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On http://www.dcmp.z27.net/Default.aspx, line 90, you should probably close that HR.

cause = time

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235390 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 02:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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never develop a webpage for one browser only. I learned that the hard way Wink.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235391 is a reply to message #235389] Fri, 22 December 2006 02:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Anderson is currently offline  Dave Anderson
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I try to design for both, but its hard to do at once. I usually use FireFox for the basis of my design, then fix what is needed for IE. In this case though, I'm using new things I havn't before, and I just can't seem to figure out the problem. I'm sure I will eventually, though.

xptek wrote on Fri, 22 December 2006 02:05

On http://www.dcmp.z27.net/Default.aspx, line 90, you should probably close that HR.


One less error to take care of, Blush

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235392 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 02:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Anderson is currently offline  Dave Anderson
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I figured out what the problem was; it was a minor problem with the width properties of a few objects. Thanks for pointint out the open HR tag, xptek, cleaned up the HR line a bit.

Thanks guys.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235400 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Next time you take a screen shot hold ALT and press the button, It'll take the shot of the current active window and not both displays. Save file size and overall resolution.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235403 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wouldn't develop your site for IE7 or FireFox 2 just yet, there is alot of problems I've heard. In fact, the BB on my Universitie's site has alot of problems in IE7. However, your site looks great in Firefox Wink

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235405 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The thing is, if your site doesn't work properly in each site, there's an error in your coding regardless of what browser you're using.

whoa.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235429 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Anderson is currently offline  Dave Anderson
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Yeah. I found that one of the tables in my layout was coded 2 pixels too wide.

Edit: Quick question, how were the loading times for you guys?

David Anderson
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[Updated on: Fri, 22 December 2006 11:33]

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235436 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you code using XHTML 1.1 and valid CSS, there should be no problem seeing your website properly in Firefox 2 and Internet Explorer 7!

Avoid using tables and HR tags when they're not needed, too.

No. Seriously. No.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235438 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Anderson is currently offline  Dave Anderson
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I'm not too familiar with the coding standards for web development anymore, I should probably go read around articles and whatnot. I'm not worried about it right now though, I have a lot of work to do before January 1st arrives.

David Anderson
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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235444 is a reply to message #235429] Fri, 22 December 2006 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave Anderson wrote on Fri, 22 December 2006 18:29

Edit: Quick question, how were the loading times for you guys?


From clicking the link on the banner page it took about 8 seconds to fully load.

EDIT: Trying it again only took 3 seconds, since the images were all in cache that time.

http://steamsignature.com/card/1/76561197975867233.png

[Updated on: Fri, 22 December 2006 12:29]

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235445 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, I hate graphical designs. Well, for the most part. I go the simple way. My new design: http://www.thekingsthrone.net/id

The banner is the only graphic on that site. Hmm, I should probably validate the CSS and XHTML.

whoa.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235460 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I coded my site in ASP .NET 2.0, which I have noticed has increased the loading times of my pages by 2-10 seconds. Before when I had it coded in HTML it took less than a second. Better technology isn't always better.

I like non-graphical designs too, but I can never seem to make mine decent when I do go that route. I might make a non-graphical design one of these days.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235463 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You made a few that I thought were fine. Huh

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235464 is a reply to message #235460] Fri, 22 December 2006 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave Anderson wrote on Fri, 22 December 2006 15:31

I coded my site in ASP .NET 2.0, which I have noticed has increased the loading times of my pages by 2-10 seconds. Before when I had it coded in HTML it took less than a second. Better technology isn't always better.

I like non-graphical designs too, but I can never seem to make mine decent when I do go that route. I might make a non-graphical design one of these days.

I could always help. I've gained a pretty decent amount of CSS knowledge, and I know where to get help if I don't know. I need more stuff to design, anyways.

whoa.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235468 is a reply to message #235463] Fri, 22 December 2006 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90 wrote on Fri, 22 December 2006 13:33

You made a few that I thought were fine. Huh


I guess I'm just like Glyde, design happy, hehe.

Quote:

I could always help. I've gained a pretty decent amount of CSS knowledge, and I know where to get help if I don't know. I need more stuff to design, anyways.


I'm going to start a non-graphical layout and see how it works out, then I might take you up on that. I never really got into CSS, so I'll see what happens.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235473 is a reply to message #235445] Fri, 22 December 2006 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Fri, 22 December 2006 14:45

Oh, I hate graphical designs. Well, for the most part. I go the simple way. My new design: http://www.thekingsthrone.net/id

The banner is the only graphic on that site. Hmm, I should probably validate the CSS and XHTML.

Yeah, I started to get into the CSS + XHTML design. I have to say, though, that that one needs some gradients or something. =P

No. Seriously. No.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235479 is a reply to message #235473] Fri, 22 December 2006 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glyde51 wrote on Fri, 22 December 2006 16:12

j_ball430 wrote on Fri, 22 December 2006 14:45

Oh, I hate graphical designs. Well, for the most part. I go the simple way. My new design: http://www.thekingsthrone.net/id

The banner is the only graphic on that site. Hmm, I should probably validate the CSS and XHTML.

Yeah, I started to get into the CSS + XHTML design. I have to say, though, that that one needs some gradients or something. =P

Fuck gradients. That's too much graphics. I like a slight highlight/gradient on my banner. Just enough to give it a soft, round look.

whoa.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235485 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have many people started using IE7? I tried it, but I hate it. I am so used to the old look that I returned back to IE6. Now I stared to use Firefox and I am loving it.
Too bad Gunbound still uses IE only.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235487 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't use it, but design my site to work with it, but I don't know anyone personally who actually uses IE7.

David Anderson
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Terminator 101 wrote on Fri, 22 December 2006 17:01

Have many people started using IE7? I tried it, but I hate it. I am so used to the old look that I returned back to IE6. Now I stared to use Firefox and I am loving it.
Too bad Gunbound still uses IE only.

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/

Install that. It's not only great for web designers who want to check to see if their designs work in IE as well as Firefox, but it also helps for those annoying pages/sites that will ONLY work correctly in IE. You can just set the certain page up in the options to always open up in the IE rendering.

whoa.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 troubles. [message #235529 is a reply to message #235380] Fri, 22 December 2006 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I've always had more love for the graphical designs. Shiney things for the win!

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