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Re: infantry Vs vehicles [message #226849 is a reply to message #226669] Mon, 16 October 2006 03:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: infantry Vs vehicles [message #227230 is a reply to message #214099] Thu, 19 October 2006 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How many times does the 8 (FlameTank, APC, StealthTank, Buggy) rush need to fail on C&C_Islands when GDI only has a barracks for people to realize that infantry kick a lot of ass?!

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There's only 7 vehicles as one = harvester.

7 APC's with a nuker have always owned any infantry on a 14 - 26 players server.


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Dover wrote on Thu, 19 October 2006 02:35

How many times does the 8 (FlameTank, APC, StealthTank, Buggy) rush need to fail on C&C_Islands when GDI only has a barracks for people to realize that infantry kick a lot of ass?!

7 APCs > that
Snipers + SBH/APC nuke > that
7 teched arties from long range > that

yes, that > an unco-ordinated stank rush, and yes that > buggies...


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Re: infantry Vs vehicles [message #227379 is a reply to message #214099] Thu, 19 October 2006 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay, picture this. It's the last 5 minutes of C&C_Islands. GDI has nothing but their barracks left, but since it's islands they have a large amount of cash accumulated. Nod has nothing but the airstrip left, and also has a large amount of cash left. The teams are 20v20 of average skill and no complete n00bs with equally good teamwork on both sides. The score is roughly tied. Who wins?


GDI, because Infantry > Tanks. No matter how coordinated the APC rush is, if the infantry aren't complete n00bs and someone sees them early and calls what they're doing, they're fucked.

Artys would just be ramjet-fodder without techs behind them.

In any case, no nuke could even hit the bar at this point.


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Re: infantry Vs vehicles [message #227382 is a reply to message #214099] Fri, 20 October 2006 00:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thaty's just because the vehicle limit of 7 isn't appropriate for a 20v20 game.

14 apc's with a nuke would still own them.


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Dover wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 04:44

Artys would just be ramjet-fodder without techs behind them.


Spoony wrote:

7 teched arties


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Re: infantry Vs vehicles [message #227408 is a reply to message #214099] Fri, 20 October 2006 05:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pff damn right - if 20 camping infantry (respawning) can hold off 7 vehicles, with basic inf then infantry obviously miles better than vehicles.

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Re: infantry Vs vehicles [message #227432 is a reply to message #214099] Fri, 20 October 2006 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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all you need is an SBH on the field, you damage the vec. the SBH takes it.

if it is in the situation that dover described, it is very unliky there will be techs.
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help-linux wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 11:24

all you need is an SBH on the field, you damage the vec. the SBH takes it.

if you play against complete idiots, yes, I suppose that's true... if the tank users have intellects, then it's unlikely.

help-linux wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 11:24

if it is in the situation that dover described, it is very unliky there will be techs.

Why?


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MaidenTy1 wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 17:40

help-linux wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 11:24

all you need is an SBH on the field, you damage the vec. the SBH takes it.

if you play against complete idiots, yes, I suppose that's true... if the tank users have intellects, then it's unlikely.

help-linux wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 11:24

if it is in the situation that dover described, it is very unliky there will be techs.

Why?


it's possible that there will be techs. but if you take out the techs, then the arties are fodder to sniper fire Very Happy


(and possibly and engis repairing it)


the inf would generally win, as they are harder to hit, and you get less points for killing one.


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MaidenTy1 wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 17:40


help-linux wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 11:24

if it is in the situation that dover described, it is very unliky there will be techs.

Why?


because there is no hand of nod. engi are not as good. the arti would be toast without about 4 engis on it
Re: infantry Vs vehicles [message #227495 is a reply to message #214099] Fri, 20 October 2006 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Even if what Dover says would be true, it is stupid to proove a point through such a specific situation. I could also say: infantry owns everything because when only the pp is alive on a map, then our snipers make a lot of kills and can cover a nuke!

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Dover wrote on Thu, 19 October 2006 03:35

How many times does the 8 (FlameTank, APC, StealthTank, Buggy) rush need to fail on C&C_Islands when GDI only has a barracks for people to realize that infantry kick a lot of ass?!



One APC would ruin a lot of days there.


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Something to think about too: The larger the server, the lower the vehicles-to-people ratio and the more people to tech behind those vehicles.

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Re: infantry Vs vehicles [message #227517 is a reply to message #227445] Sat, 21 October 2006 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the17doctor wrote on Fri, 20 October 2006 12:27

it's possible that there will be techs. but if you take out the techs, then the arties are fodder to sniper fire Very Happy

The techs don't need to expose themselves, they can hide behind rocks, they can hide behind the arties.


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Re: infantry Vs vehicles [message #228642 is a reply to message #214099] Mon, 30 October 2006 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So basically everyone is only saying that vechs are good when they have techs (An infantry) behind them?

Of course teched artys or teched mammys or teched anything owns. That's combining infantry AND vehicles.

Take an even number of 1000 infantry and put them against any vehicle of your choice, no techs. Infantry win.


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Dover wrote on Mon, 30 October 2006 01:42

Take an even number of 1000 infantry and put them against any vehicle of your choice, no techs. Infantry win.


Am I the only one failing to see your point?

Dover wrote on Mon, 30 October 2006 01:42

So basically everyone is only saying that vechs are good when they have techs (An infantry) behind them?


No, that isn't what has been said at all.


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Dover wrote on Mon, 30 October 2006 01:42

So basically everyone is only saying that vechs are good when they have techs (An infantry) behind them?

Of course teched artys or teched mammys or teched anything owns. That's combining infantry AND vehicles.

sigh... idiot


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Re: infantry Vs vehicles [message #228706 is a reply to message #228701] Mon, 30 October 2006 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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put a sydney (ion) again a arty. see who wins.


it is all about skill. if the sydney just stood there (shooting) the arty would win.
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help-linux wrote on Tue, 31 October 2006 09:23

put a sydney (ion) again a arty. see who wins.


it is all about skill. if the sydney just stood there (shooting) the arty would win.

You also missed the point?


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help-linux wrote on Tue, 31 October 2006 02:23

put a sydney (ion) again a arty. see who wins.


it is all about skill. if the sydney just stood there (shooting) the arty would win.

It's about skill where the arty is concerned. It takes no skill whatsoever to hit an arty with a sydney, but a skilled player can consistently bodyshot infantry with an arty.


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