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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216064 is a reply to message #214866] Tue, 29 August 2006 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dont think everyone is going to pick up your sarcasm, Jake

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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216067 is a reply to message #216062] Tue, 29 August 2006 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:45

So you deny banning Chronojam? lol.

You have yet to say anything about the downtime.

No, I don't. And what do you want me to say about the downtime?
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216069 is a reply to message #214866] Tue, 29 August 2006 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why, after 2 days of downtime, Renegade and Tiberian Sun: Firestorm have TERRIBLE connectivity.

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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216070 is a reply to message #214866] Tue, 29 August 2006 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How dare you mention Revolt on here... did you ask for his permisson?

And I know alot people steals shit from Revolt but doesn't give you the right to post his name on here

Revolt > All

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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216073 is a reply to message #216069] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:54

Why, after 2 days of downtime, Renegade and Tiberian Sun: Firestorm have TERRIBLE connectivity.

Ah, because of a broken GBIC.
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216075 is a reply to message #216073] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:02

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:54

Why, after 2 days of downtime, Renegade and Tiberian Sun: Firestorm have TERRIBLE connectivity.

Ah, because of a broken GBIC.



So why is our game's listing service being hosted at a datacenter with a broken GBIC?


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216076 is a reply to message #216075] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:04

Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:02

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:54

Why, after 2 days of downtime, Renegade and Tiberian Sun: Firestorm have TERRIBLE connectivity.

Ah, because of a broken GBIC.



So why is our game's listing service being hosted at a datacenter with a broken GBIC?

I guess they were unable to find unbreakable GBICs.
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216077 is a reply to message #216076] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:05

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:04

Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:02

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:54

Why, after 2 days of downtime, Renegade and Tiberian Sun: Firestorm have TERRIBLE connectivity.

Ah, because of a broken GBIC.



So why is our game's listing service being hosted at a datacenter with a broken GBIC?

I guess they were unable to find unbreakable GBICs.


Dude,
CUT THIS SHIT OUT. APPOLOGIZE AND OFFER A FUCKING ALTERNATIVE TO YOUR SHIT. OBVIOUSLY, THE CONTINUED CONNECTIVITY ISSUES ARE STILL HAPPENING. STOP DICKING WITH US AND FIX IT, OR GET THE FUCK OUT.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216079 is a reply to message #216077] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:07

Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:05

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:04

Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:02

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:54

Why, after 2 days of downtime, Renegade and Tiberian Sun: Firestorm have TERRIBLE connectivity.

Ah, because of a broken GBIC.



So why is our game's listing service being hosted at a datacenter with a broken GBIC?

I guess they were unable to find unbreakable GBICs.


Dude,
CUT THIS SHIT OUT. APPOLOGIZE AND OFFER A FUCKING ALTERNATIVE TO YOUR SHIT. OBVIOUSLY, THE CONTINUED CONNECTIVITY ISSUES ARE STILL HAPPENING. STOP DICKING WITH US AND FIX IT, OR GET THE FUCK OUT.



calm down.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216080 is a reply to message #214866] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No,

the downtime we are experiencing is unacceptable and should not continue, not now, not in the future.

Instead of offering us solutions and generally being helpful, he instead bickers over trivial shit and gives us non-sensical or meaningless answers. These answers include deception, empty promises and lack of care for the respectable people of the Renegade community.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216083 is a reply to message #216073] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:02

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:54

Why, after 2 days of downtime, Renegade and Tiberian Sun: Firestorm have TERRIBLE connectivity.

Ah, because of a broken GBIC.

So let me get this straight. AFTER the datacenter had downtime due to maintenance (that you "weren't informed" about) the GBIC (which obviously a large datacenter wouldn't have spares of Sarcasm) suddenly decided to fuck up, leaving us with our current status?


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216085 is a reply to message #214866] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:05

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:04

Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:02

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:54

Why, after 2 days of downtime, Renegade and Tiberian Sun: Firestorm have TERRIBLE connectivity.

Ah, because of a broken GBIC.



So why is our game's listing service being hosted at a datacenter with a broken GBIC?

I guess they were unable to find unbreakable GBICs.


I found this quite a funny answer? Tx for that, Olaf Razz.

Seriously though: I'm all for a stable Xwis, let's please make work of that Smile.


You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord

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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216086 is a reply to message #216083] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:26

Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:02

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 14:54

Why, after 2 days of downtime, Renegade and Tiberian Sun: Firestorm have TERRIBLE connectivity.

Ah, because of a broken GBIC.

So let me get this straight. AFTER the datacenter had downtime due to maintenance (that you "weren't informed" about) the GBIC (which obviously a large datacenter wouldn't have spares of Sarcasm) suddenly decided to fuck up, leaving us with our current status?

Actually, they do have spares and the packet loss issue has been solved as far as I know.
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216089 is a reply to message #214866] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Regardless if it has or not,

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR IT BEING DOWN 5-6 DAYS.

Give BHS renegade. Pure and simple.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216094 is a reply to message #216089] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:33

Regardless if it has or not,

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR IT BEING DOWN 5-6 DAYS.

Give BHS renegade. Pure and simple.

BHS shouldn't be given Renegade simply because of downtime, but rather Strike Team's lack of desire to have Renegade stable like they would for Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge. I don't blame them for having favorites, but when it comes to something like this, everything should be highest priority.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216101 is a reply to message #214866] Tue, 29 August 2006 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, now that you know that your hosting provider feels it to be perfectly reasonable to have over a day of complete downtime followed by 3 and a half more days of this alleged GBIC flaking out, it seems a GREAT time to find a new host with a higher committment to delivering to its customers. If my host had scheduled a 24 hour downtime or even had a 24 hour UNexpected downtime, I would have been out the door as soon as I could yank my files off the server. In this day and age of the Internet, there is NO excuse for any provider to deliver that sort of service.

I have respect for you, Olaf, and I appreciate what time you do give to the Renegade players, but I am siding with the players and server owners of which I am one of. We shouldn't be told to suck it up and be appreciative of what you have done for us up until now. We should be told that you are taking responsibility for this problem, that you are very sorry it happened, and that you are taking steps to make sure it NEVER happens again, and outlining those steps.

And I'm not speaking from a pissed-off player's perspective -- I am speaking as someone else who is in your shoes and provides an "official" service for Renegade. I had a lot of support from the community in order to be given this responsibility from Westwood before they closed down and I have spent the last 3 and a half years making sure I live up to it.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216103 is a reply to message #216094] Tue, 29 August 2006 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:42

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:33

Regardless if it has or not,

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR IT BEING DOWN 5-6 DAYS.

Give BHS renegade. Pure and simple.

BHS shouldn't be given Renegade simply because of downtime, but rather Strike Team's lack of desire to have Renegade stable like they would for Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge. I don't blame them for having favorites, but when it comes to something like this, everything should be highest priority.

Eh, what lack of desire?
We'd all games to be as stable as possible.
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216104 is a reply to message #216089] Tue, 29 August 2006 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 20:33

Regardless if it has or not,

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR IT BEING DOWN 5-6 DAYS.

Give BHS renegade. Pure and simple.



im sure the poeple at bhs have enough things to do...although it would be nice.

as a side note, poeple have paid alot of money to have renegade servers up, 6 days of downtime could mean $100's of wasted money.
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216105 is a reply to message #216104] Tue, 29 August 2006 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 16:07

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 20:33

Regardless if it has or not,

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR IT BEING DOWN 5-6 DAYS.

Give BHS renegade. Pure and simple.



im sure the poeple at bhs have enough things to do...although it would be nice.

as a side note, poeple have paid alot of money to have renegade servers up, 6 days of downtime could mean $100's of wasted money.

Uhh, BHS WANTS to have that responsibility to provide a WOL substitute for Renegade.

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Olaf, your forums make it quite clear that you really don't give a rat's ass about Renegade. It's not a game you have a passion for, we get it. We're not faulting you for it.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216107 is a reply to message #214866] Tue, 29 August 2006 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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w00t! go BHS! it would be amazing under BHS control.

then, XWIS could focus more on other games.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216109 is a reply to message #216105] Tue, 29 August 2006 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 29 [SIZE=7

August 2006 21:09]
help-linux wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 16:07

snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August [/SIZE

2006 20:33]Regardless if it has or not,

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR IT BEING DOWN 5-6 DAYS.

Give BHS renegade. Pure and simple.



im sure the poeple at bhs have enough things to do...although it would be nice.

as a side note, poeple have paid alot of money to have renegade servers up, 6 days of downtime could mean $100's of wasted money.

Uhh, BHS WANTS to have that responsibility to provide a WOL substitute for Renegade.

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Olaf, your forums make it quite clear that you really don't give a rat's ass about Renegade. It's not a game you have a passion for, we get it. We're not faulting you for it.


oh sorry i though WE were forcing it upon bhs. GIVE IT TO BHS!
Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216110 is a reply to message #216105] Tue, 29 August 2006 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 21:09


Olaf, your forums make it quite clear that you really don't give a rat's ass about Renegade. It's not a game you have a passion for, we get it. We're not faulting you for it.


I agree, except I am faulting him for it because the deal was the EA was going to hand it over on condition that all games were managed by XWIS correctly.

FAILURE.


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Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216111 is a reply to message #214866] Tue, 29 August 2006 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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looks like it's Game Over for XWIS

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the17doctor wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 16:22

looks like it's Game Over for XWIS

Uhh, all we can do is ask Strike Team to give Renegade to BHS. We can make threats, ask nicely, insult them, etc..., but we can't force them to do anything.


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i know.

who was being nasty. Rocked Over


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