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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #215893 is a reply to message #214866] |
Mon, 28 August 2006 21:29   |
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havoc9826
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XWIS was around long before EA handed official WOL/WWC support over to them. However, I have no knowledge of what kind of hosting XWIS has to provide under the official agreement, so I'd prefer someone with direct knowledge of this to clarify it for everyone. Also, what do you make of this?
>ping servserv.westwood.com
Pinging legacy.westwood.com [159.153.208.17] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=238
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=238
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=238
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=238
Ping statistics for 159.153.208.17:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 28ms, Maximum = 31ms, Average = 29ms
ARIN.net's Search results for: 159.153.208.17
OrgName: Electronic Arts, Inc.
OrgID: ELECTR-60
Address: 209 Redwood Shores Parkway
City: Redwood City
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 94065
Country: US
>ping servserv.xwis.net
Pinging servserv.xwis.net [195.13.63.187] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=49
Ping statistics for 195.13.63.187:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 185ms, Maximum = 186ms, Average = 185ms
ARIN.net's Search results for: 195.13.63.187
OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre
OrgID: RIPE
Address: P.O. Box 10096
City: Amsterdam
StateProv:
PostalCode: 1001EB
Country: NL
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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #215900 is a reply to message #215874] |
Mon, 28 August 2006 21:41 |
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| trooprm02 wrote on Mon, 28 August 2006 13:29 |
Yes ofcourse, the reason renegade was not restored auto was because of "bad luck".
XWIS Def of bad luck:
extreme lack of care
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It was just the way the cookie crumbled. That's all there is to it. I have personally played many hours on Renagade prior to this outage/after the redirection and never once had a problem.[/quote]
Don't mean to be rude, but how with the constant disconnections from xwis that all servers have been getting even after the outage? Its almost impossible to actually enjoy the game 
Servers don't last 30 min before they go down because they get disconnected from XWIS, dont take this from me, ask Crimson yourself 
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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #215920 is a reply to message #214866] |
Mon, 28 August 2006 22:45 |
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I dont see why people join XWIS servers when they know damm well its gonna crash every 10 minutes. I see the same idiots joining the same server for 4 hours straight... God that gets old.
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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #215928 is a reply to message #215893] |
Mon, 28 August 2006 22:57 |
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| havoc9826 wrote on Mon, 28 August 2006 21:29 |
XWIS was around long before EA handed official WOL/WWC support over to them. However, I have no knowledge of what kind of hosting XWIS has to provide under the official agreement, so I'd prefer someone with direct knowledge of this to clarify it for everyone. Also, what do you make of this?
>ping servserv.westwood.com
Pinging legacy.westwood.com [159.153.208.17] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=238
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=238
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=238
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=238
Ping statistics for 159.153.208.17:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 28ms, Maximum = 31ms, Average = 29ms
ARIN.net's Search results for: 159.153.208.17
OrgName: Electronic Arts, Inc.
OrgID: ELECTR-60
Address: 209 Redwood Shores Parkway
City: Redwood City
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 94065
Country: US
>ping servserv.xwis.net
Pinging servserv.xwis.net [195.13.63.187] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=49
Ping statistics for 195.13.63.187:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 185ms, Maximum = 186ms, Average = 185ms
ARIN.net's Search results for: 195.13.63.187
OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre
OrgID: RIPE
Address: P.O. Box 10096
City: Amsterdam
StateProv:
PostalCode: 1001EB
Country: NL
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Wow, good job, you know how to ping and whois. All you did was reaffirm the fact that servserv is hosted by EA and that EA has nothing to do with the actual XWIS IRCds hosting, which is located at Clanserver4u.de's cage at Cogent NL.
Me and a million other non-morons are aware that XWIS existed before the change. Thanks again for stating the obvious.
Therefore, before you try to look smart by doing stupid things that just reiterate the obvious:
and go hide in a corner.
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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #215980 is a reply to message #215920] |
Tue, 29 August 2006 06:14 |
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| ghost wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 00:45 |
I dont see why people join XWIS servers when they know damm well its gonna crash every 10 minutes. I see the same idiots joining the same server for 4 hours straight... God that gets old.
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...maybe they're seeing whether it's fixed yet?
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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216005 is a reply to message #215928] |
Tue, 29 August 2006 08:18 |
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havoc9826
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| snipler wrote on Mon, 28 August 2006 22:57 |
| havoc9826 wrote on Mon, 28 August 2006 21:29 |
XWIS was around long before EA handed official WOL/WWC support over to them. However, I have no knowledge of what kind of hosting XWIS has to provide under the official agreement, so I'd prefer someone with direct knowledge of this to clarify it for everyone. Also, what do you make of this?
>ping servserv.westwood.com
Pinging legacy.westwood.com [159.153.208.17] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=238
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=238
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=238
Reply from 159.153.208.17: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=238
Ping statistics for 159.153.208.17:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 28ms, Maximum = 31ms, Average = 29ms
ARIN.net's Search results for: 159.153.208.17
OrgName: Electronic Arts, Inc.
OrgID: ELECTR-60
Address: 209 Redwood Shores Parkway
City: Redwood City
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 94065
Country: US
>ping servserv.xwis.net
Pinging servserv.xwis.net [195.13.63.187] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=186ms TTL=49
Reply from 195.13.63.187: bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=49
Ping statistics for 195.13.63.187:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 185ms, Maximum = 186ms, Average = 185ms
ARIN.net's Search results for: 195.13.63.187
OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre
OrgID: RIPE
Address: P.O. Box 10096
City: Amsterdam
StateProv:
PostalCode: 1001EB
Country: NL
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Wow, good job, you know how to ping and whois. All you did was reaffirm the fact that servserv is hosted by EA and that EA has nothing to do with the actual XWIS IRCds hosting, which is located at Clanserver4u.de's cage at Cogent NL.
Me and a million other non-morons are aware that XWIS existed before the change. Thanks again for stating the obvious.
Therefore, before you try to look smart by doing stupid things that just reiterate the obvious:
and go hide in a corner.
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Get off your high horse. Tell me where I attempted to say I was doing anything noone else could? I was doing it so other people who have never seen it before, and those who DON'T know how to ping and whois (OMG, that kind of person exists! It's a freak of e-nature!  ), can have it here so they don't have to go look for it themselves. In fact, I even TOLD you that I have limited knowledge about this. Excuse me for trying to help in the capacity of which I am capable. I certainly didn't see YOU trying to back up your argument with evidence, you just assumed people would take the word of a forumgoer with only 11 posts. Other people certainly wouldn't look up this kind of information because it could prove them wrong, and anyone of your purported caliber of intelligence should know that a good many people don't like to be proven wrong. Also, don't exaggerate and say "a million" other people are smart enough know how to do this, because if you had been at this forum before, or played in a public Renegade server recently, you'd know that isn't the case. What's more, if everyone else knew what was "correct" (according to you), you wouldn't have had a different claim than desoLane. Finally, you had no reason to attack me ad hominem when didn't attack you first. I didn't go looking for an argument; I only provided what little information I know how to find, for the purpose of review by those involved in the argument. I did not invite myself into your flaming becuase I did not take a stand, so back off. Insulting people is the least effective tactic in debate, and it makes you look like that's all you are capable of using to argue your stance.
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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216026 is a reply to message #215995] |
Tue, 29 August 2006 09:59 |
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| trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 15:56 |
wait...didn't EA appoint XWIS itself to now host WOL.
Which would mean xwis, as the hosts, are not reliable
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No, Olaf asked EA to be WOL.
| havoc9826 wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 10:18 |
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1) I don't have a high horse. I have a cat named Dante.
2) If you can't ping and whois, then you shouldn't be discussing this problem in this thread.
3) You assume too much, thinking that I've only been here for 11 posts.
4) Saying a million meant a lot, and you know that, so fuck off.
5) There is no debate, so my insult meant nothing until you challenged it. Now we're off topic because you can't shut the fuck up.
Actually, its cool to be me.
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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216044 is a reply to message #214866] |
Tue, 29 August 2006 10:46 |
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So who the fuck died and made you king of the Westwood community? How dare you impose your shit, stolen (from Revolt's CNCR) clone on us, and not even suggest that EA try other people's alternatives.
You sure have proven yourself incapible of running a stable server as it has been down for 6 DAYS, 2 of which COMPLETELY OFFLINE.
Why don't you let the big boys handle Renegade because you "don't care to". Give Renegade to BHS and save us this bullshit with no ladders and unstable listing.
Actually, its cool to be me.
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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216054 is a reply to message #216052] |
Tue, 29 August 2006 11:17 |
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snipler
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| Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 13:16 |
| snipler wrote on Tue, 29 August 2006 13:51 |
Stop dodging my fucking question and give the community the answers it wants.
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Maybe when you stop assuming things.
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I know for a fact that you stole parts of CNCR. Now answer the fucking question.
Actually, its cool to be me.
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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216056 is a reply to message #214866] |
Tue, 29 August 2006 11:29 |
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I don't care where the code came from, all I care about is that the server is up and running for the community. Not just as part of BHS, but as a server owner myself. I have spent several hours this weekend babysitting my connection to XWIS and doing heavy modifications to WOLProxy just to keep my server in operation for my players. I had no problem with XWIS when it was stable and we only lost connection once or twice a week, but an outage lasting from Thursday evening (my time) to Tuesday morning is 4 and a half days of no connectivity or shoddy connectivity.
I hope, when the dust settles from this, that there is a new plan in place so this NEVER happens again.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: unable to connect to westwood on line [message #216059 is a reply to message #214866] |
Tue, 29 August 2006 11:35 |
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The fact that you banned Chronojam from your forums and from WOL completely for even mentioning this fact.
You know you stole it. I know you cant admit it, because you're a coward and cant take responsibility for anything. But I'm quite content with knowing the truth.
Adam wrote CNCR, you stole alot of code, and you pretty much told everyone involved to go pound sand.
As for the downtime, its unacceptable and you have yet to respond to my original question.
Actually, its cool to be me.
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