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Muh, finished watching, it's almost one and a half hours long. I thought it was the same stuff I've already seen but it's more insigthful.
I'm going to bitch-slap the lot of you in your faces. There. I simply fail to see how this much detail and insight into the events could be accidental or wrong. It's like they stated, there's a conspiracy theory, but it's made by the government. Even if they didn't create the whole mess by themselves, there's so much unnecessary hiding of facts and so many vague statements or outright lies that I can't understand how some can swallow all of it wihout criticism. Yeah there's a shit-fan out there, fueled by taxpayers' money.
If I lived in America, I would at least demand more throughout investigation. But then again, I'm not. That doesn't nullify my comment like some of you surely just thought, though.
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Thu, 27 July 2006 14:52 |
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| Dave Anderson wrote on Thu, 27 July 2006 14:11 |
Just comes up with an empty box...
Anyway, I do not believe anything any video on the internet has to say about 9/11. Most of them are filled with lies and are very deceiving. Hell, I don't hardly believe anything the media says either. Of course that is because the media is extremely biased.
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You don't believe what the media tells you, you don't believe what average citizens tell you, yet you believe what politicians tell you?
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| Re: Truth about 9/11... [message #210075 is a reply to message #210009] |
Thu, 27 July 2006 15:01 |
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I never said I don't believe what average citizens tell me. And I do believe what some politicians say to a certain extent.
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| Re: Truth about 9/11... [message #210088 is a reply to message #210009] |
Thu, 27 July 2006 16:12 |
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why isn't it just plausible for people to believe that anti-american or anti-west or anti-jew/supporters went and did a terrorist attack? Would it really be that unlikely? No one expected it to happen so it's not like it would seem impossible. These people kill jews and other innocent civilians for the sake of their religion and have done so for a long time. Would it be anything new? It's not like its the first time a terrorist organization did something like this. I've met a couple of dutch people who seriously all just believe Bush did it. They probably go home to TV to hear news about how Bush did it and so forth.
How about I just go ahead and ask why in God's name it is even close to being believable that our president would destroy our money making buildings and our pentagon compared to terrorists who are bent on terror and destruction and have killed civilians and do holy wars?. It's just as believable to me that Bush did it than aliens did it. Yeah, that sounds about right. Perhaps I'll tell the news that our favourite alien ET came down and busted up our shit.
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| Re: Truth about 9/11... [message #210108 is a reply to message #210058] |
Thu, 27 July 2006 20:58 |
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| Scythar wrote on Thu, 27 July 2006 15:28 |
That's a pretty moot point, attacking "Their own military HQ" didn't/doesn't seem to weaken their military forces in any way...also, the portion of the Pentagon happened to be under renovation at the time...
At least watch the video if you're going to make arquments. I've seen videos both for against a government conspiracy, and I have to admit there's a lot in the matter that doesn't make sense if I was to believe your government.
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I've seen similar documentaries and God knows how many websites, so I know the basic arguments already. The ones I've seen share a lot of the same sources and "facts."
More than likely, any inconsistencies and/or coverups that did occur were motivated by a desire to cover up the screwups made by the government that prevented them from doing anything about it. The US government (and all governments to an extent) already has a history of this.
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If you wanna be a badass ex-marine law enforcment game programmer college graduate, then you can be! I'm just glad we don't see the other part of you where you join AOL chat rooms as "hotchik69" and cyber with guys while you spank off into a sock and then cry yourself to sleep on your cock-shaped pillow.
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| tzarmind wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 20:52 |
Not only did you immaturely edit what J_Ball said in your quote. But you fucking got in the irony truck and drove it straight off a cliff.
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| Canadacdn wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:04 |
California burns down every year. I think it's part of nature's cycle.
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| Re: Truth about 9/11... [message #210109 is a reply to message #210043] |
Thu, 27 July 2006 21:06 |
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| SpyGuy246 wrote on Thu, 27 July 2006 15:54 |
Heh heh...actors and musicians. Because when I want information on politics and world events, I'll go to the liberal arts.
*is a liberal arts major*
The reason it's extremely, insanely unlikely for the U.S. to stage 9/11 is that it was an attack against the World Trade Center and Pentagon. If the government was looking to make serious money off the disaster, why attack an area/building(s) that already makes serious money? The millions/billions of dollars lost in their destruction, lost business, and memorial efforts would greatly offset anything gained from whatever oil reserves we don't already have access to from OPEC, not to mention the cost of weapons and whatnot used to attack.
Also, why would the government attack its own military headquarters if it wanted to start a war? That's basically like shooting yourself in the head in order to frame someone for assault. I can't see military brass corrupt enough to instigate a war as willing to potentially lose their nice offices and pretty secretaries. Not only does it not make sense to me, but it is also against general human nature.
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The WTC was about to expire, so it had to come down or be totaly refitted which would had cost more money then it was worth.
The US have attacked or allowed its things to be attacked before for their own interests, visit link below.
http://www.ussliberty.com/
And why is it against general human nature? people destroy their own shit all the time, look in WW2, the Germans destroyed everything as they fell back to Germany..
People burn down their homes or get their cars stolen so they can collect the insurance.
Never forgot, us humans are bad ass mofos, we do anything for ourselfs.
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Thu, 27 July 2006 21:21 |
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If you don't know all the facts or you aren't 100% sure if one side of the story is true, then don't just close your mind to the other story.
...... not that I completely believe the conspiracy theory, its just that I don't believe that there is no chance of it being true.
Anyways, is it really that impossible that the government would kill there own citizens???
About the plance that went for the pentagon-- did you actually hit it? I might have been just a clever plan to persuade people to believe that our country was being attacked by foreigners, could it not???
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| Re: Truth about 9/11... [message #210114 is a reply to message #210009] |
Thu, 27 July 2006 22:18 |
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It has come to my attention that one possible way to make people like these listen to reason is to yell louder than they do. Therefore, an experiment:
YOU FAIL AT LIFE!
Are they taking off their tinfoil hats yet? No? Oh, drat. I guess we'll just ignore 'em then.
This thread is hereby hijacked in the name of general forum mental health. I declare this thread re-dedicated to pursue an answer to the eternal question posed by Socrates, who said: "I drank what?"
I propose that the answer to this question must have been Pepsi, for its foul flavor and ability to induce vomiting. If this is true, then Socrates must have been a Coke-drinker. Agree/disagree?
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Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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Thu, 27 July 2006 22:50 |
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So in other words you have no answer to those questions??
"I wumbo, you wumbo, he, she, wombo, wombo, wombo-ing, wobology, the study of wombo, it's first grade SpongeBob" - Patrick Star.
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| Re: Truth about 9/11... [message #210117 is a reply to message #210009] |
Thu, 27 July 2006 23:00 |
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No, in other words all these retarded conspiracy theories have been debunked so many damn times that it isn't even interesting to read them anymore. Nobody from the moonbat camp seems to read the logical, well-reasoned posts that are made to answer these moronic accusations, even when they are backed up with pages and pages of evidence from real, credible sources. In other words, it's like talking in one ear and having your words fly right out the other in a cloud of dust and cobwebs. There's no point being serious when nobody is listening, so why should I bother to re-type what has been said hundreds of times before on these same forums? Why should anybody bother?
Now answer the query of Socrates before I turn you into a kipper with the top-secret transmogrifier gun I stole from Area 51.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
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| Re: Truth about 9/11... [message #210120 is a reply to message #210110] |
Thu, 27 July 2006 23:12 |
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| Feetseek wrote on Thu, 27 July 2006 23:21 |
If you don't know all the facts or you aren't 100% sure if one side of the story is true, then don't just close your mind to the other story.
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This would be an excellent thing to tell the makers of the documentaries. What is aggravating is that they and their sheep are amazingly condescending and use the "obvious" fallacy when it's clear that if it was so obvious, more people would see it.
If they didn't want to maintain the WTC buildings, why not simply implode them without people inside? It would be cheaper without damage to the emergency crews and other buildings and all the money they ended up paying the victims and their families. A Republican government especially is against government spending, so it's highly improbable that a Republican administration that could so carefully plan and cover up (without leaks of any kind in either stage of the process) a very expensive operation against its own interests (military, free commerce) without an equally careful analysis of how it would negatively impact the nation afterwards.
Anyway, Maddox had it right. Of course a random schmuck is going to uncover an elaborate conspiracy no one has leaked even after 5 years and publicize it to the world without any retaliation against him.
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| Blazer wrote on Fri, 04 August 2006 18:53 |
If you wanna be a badass ex-marine law enforcment game programmer college graduate, then you can be! I'm just glad we don't see the other part of you where you join AOL chat rooms as "hotchik69" and cyber with guys while you spank off into a sock and then cry yourself to sleep on your cock-shaped pillow.
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| tzarmind wrote on Sat, 06 January 2007 20:52 |
Not only did you immaturely edit what J_Ball said in your quote. But you fucking got in the irony truck and drove it straight off a cliff.
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| Canadacdn wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:04 |
California burns down every year. I think it's part of nature's cycle.
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| Re: Truth about 9/11... [message #210139 is a reply to message #210110] |
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| Feetseek wrote on Thu, 27 July 2006 23:21 |
If you don't know all the facts or you aren't 100% sure if one side of the story is true, then don't just close your mind to the other story.
...... not that I completely believe the conspiracy theory, its just that I don't believe that there is no chance of it being true.
Anyways, is it really that impossible that the government would kill there own citizens???
About the plance that went for the pentagon-- did you actually hit it? I might have been just a clever plan to persuade people to believe that our country was being attacked by foreigners, could it not???
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WHY WOULD THEY NEED TO HIT THE PENTAGON, TOO, FOR AMERICANS TO BELIEVE WE WERE BEING HIT BY TERRORISTS. UNLESS YOU ARE A DIMWITTED FOOL, AND I AM NOT RULING THIS THEORY OUT, I THINK EVERYONE GOT THE MESSAGE WHEN THE WTCs FELL. YOU'RE A DOOFUS FOR THINKING THAT ANYTHING EXTRA WOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED "CLEVER". IF THERE EVER WAS THIS CONSPIRACY, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CLEVER PLAN TO GO AFTER THE PENTAGON WHEN THE WTC WOULD HAVE EASILY BEEN ENOUGH. NO, IT'S NOT *IMPOSSIBLE* THAT THE GOV'T WOULD KILL ITS OWN CITIZENS. IN THIS CASE, IT IS INFINATELY MORE LIKELY THAT TERRORISTS, WHOSE DUTY IN THEIR LIFE IS TO CREATE TERROR, KILL INNOCENT CITIZENS, AND DESTROY ANY FREEDOM OR "WEST" MOVEMENTS. THESE SAME TERRORISTS WISH TO WIPE THE ENTIRETY OF THE JEW POPULATION OFF THE MAP. BUT OH NO, ITS MUCH MORE PLAUSIBLE TO BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT IS CONSPIRING AGAINST HIS OWN COUNTRY SO THAT WE COULD USE MONEY ON THE WAR AND LOSE AMERICAN LIVES.
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If you don't know all the facts or you aren't 100% sure if one side of the story is true, then don't just close your mind to the other story.
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DO YOU EVEN READ YOUR OWN WRITING? IF YOU LOOKED IN THE MADDOX PAGE AND READ IT, IF YOU COULD READ IT, ON THE BOTTOM WERE LINKS TO DEBUNKING 16 OF THE MOST COMMON CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THE ONLY REASON WHY WE DON'T BELIEVE YOUR HORSESHIT THAN PINK UNICORNS DESTROYING THE WTC IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BRING UP A VALID POINT. ALL YOU'RE DOING NOW IS SAYING IS THAT ISN'T IT POSSIBLE FOR BUSH TO DO IT. YEAH, IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT AS MUCH POSSIBLE AS THE PINK UNICORNS. SHOW ME SOMETHING THAT WOULD SUGGEST HE DID IT AND IT'LL HAVE BEEN ALREADY DEBUNKED LONG AGO BY SCIENTISTS WHO *DO* THIS RESEARCH UNLIKE SILLY MORONS WHO BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT'S SAID AND HAS NO BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ANYTHING.
MISSLE SHOT FROM PLANE CONSPIRACY? DEBUNKD
STEEL MELTING POINT CONSPIRACY? DEBUNKD
I COULD GO ON BUT I WILL LEAVE YOU TO READ IT, THAT IS IF YOU ARE UP TO ACTUALLY READING CREDIBLE SOURCES INSTEAD OF THE WORD OF A FUCKING KID WHO MAKES A SHITTY VIDEO. YEAH, LET'S BELIEVE HIM OVER THE SCIENTISTS. DO YOU EVEN REALIZE HOW IDIOTIC ANYONE IS FOR BELIEVING THIS? DO YOU? DO YOU? SCIENTOLOGISTS FEELS SHITTED ON FOR PEOPLE BELIEVING IN A MORE OUTLANDISH STORY THAN THEIR OWN.
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The WTC was about to expire, so it had to come down or be totaly refitted which would had cost more money then it was worth.
The US have attacked or allowed its things to be attacked before for their own interests, visit link below.
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ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SUGGESTING THAT BUSH SENT PLANES IN TO DEMOLISH THE WORLD TRADE CENTER IN ORDER TO "REFIT" IT? WHY WOULDN'T HE INSTEAD JUST DO A SCHEDULED DEMOLITION? WOULDN'T THAT MAKE MORE SENSE? THE ANSWER IS YES. AND A LOT MORE SENSIBLE THAN SENDING PLANES INTO BUILDINGS WHILE THERE ARE PEOPLE INSIDE, WHICH WOULD HAVE COSTED A LOT MORE THAN A SCHEDULED DEMOLITION OF THE WTC IN ORDER TO "REFIT" IT. ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T HAVE VOICES IN YOUR HEAD GIVING YOU THESE IDEAS? HOW DO SOME OF YOU PEOPLE SLEEP AT NIGHT, WITH SUCH OVERWHELMING PARANOIA?
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/prices/ JUST FOR ONE SOLITARY 747 ON ITS OWN.
BY THE WAY, IF THIS WAS EVEN REMOTELY TRUE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE STARTED REBUILDING THE WTC RIGHT AWAY. EVEN THOUGH I DON'T THINK THEY ARE NOW, APPARENTLY THERE IS A PETITION THAT CITIZENS MADE SO THAT WE COULD REBUILD THE WTC IN A WAY TO SHOW TERRORISTS THAT WE CAN ALWAYS REBUILD. UNLESS OF COURSE YOU THINK IT WAS BUSH WHO MADE UP THE PETITION.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 28 July 2006 07:20 |
| Feetseek wrote on Thu, 27 July 2006 23:21 |
If you don't know all the facts or you aren't 100% sure if one side of the story is true, then don't just close your mind to the other story.
...... not that I completely believe the conspiracy theory, its just that I don't believe that there is no chance of it being true.
Anyways, is it really that impossible that the government would kill there own citizens???
About the plance that went for the pentagon-- did you actually hit it? I might have been just a clever plan to persuade people to believe that our country was being attacked by foreigners, could it not???
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WHY WOULD THEY NEED TO HIT THE PENTAGON, TOO, FOR AMERICANS TO BELIEVE WE WERE BEING HIT BY TERRORISTS. UNLESS YOU ARE A DIMWITTED FOOL, AND I AM NOT RULING THIS THEORY OUT, I THINK EVERYONE GOT THE MESSAGE WHEN THE WTCs FELL. YOU'RE A DOOFUS FOR THINKING THAT ANYTHING EXTRA WOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED "CLEVER". IF THERE EVER WAS THIS CONSPIRACY, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CLEVER PLAN TO GO AFTER THE PENTAGON WHEN THE WTC WOULD HAVE EASILY BEEN ENOUGH. NO, IT'S NOT *IMPOSSIBLE* THAT THE GOV'T WOULD KILL ITS OWN CITIZENS. IN THIS CASE, IT IS INFINATELY MORE LIKELY THAT TERRORISTS, WHOSE DUTY IN THEIR LIFE IS TO CREATE TERROR, KILL INNOCENT CITIZENS, AND DESTROY ANY FREEDOM OR "WEST" MOVEMENTS. THESE SAME TERRORISTS WISH TO WIPE THE ENTIRETY OF THE JEW POPULATION OFF THE MAP. BUT OH NO, ITS MUCH MORE PLAUSIBLE TO BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT IS CONSPIRING AGAINST HIS OWN COUNTRY SO THAT WE COULD USE MONEY ON THE WAR AND LOSE AMERICAN LIVES.
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If you don't know all the facts or you aren't 100% sure if one side of the story is true, then don't just close your mind to the other story.
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DO YOU EVEN READ YOUR OWN WRITING? IF YOU LOOKED IN THE MADDOX PAGE AND READ IT, IF YOU COULD READ IT, ON THE BOTTOM WERE LINKS TO DEBUNKING 16 OF THE MOST COMMON CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THE ONLY REASON WHY WE DON'T BELIEVE YOUR HORSESHIT THAN PINK UNICORNS DESTROYING THE WTC IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BRING UP A VALID POINT. ALL YOU'RE DOING NOW IS SAYING IS THAT ISN'T IT POSSIBLE FOR BUSH TO DO IT. YEAH, IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT AS MUCH POSSIBLE AS THE PINK UNICORNS. SHOW ME SOMETHING THAT WOULD SUGGEST HE DID IT AND IT'LL HAVE BEEN ALREADY DEBUNKED LONG AGO BY SCIENTISTS WHO *DO* THIS RESEARCH UNLIKE SILLY MORONS WHO BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT'S SAID AND HAS NO BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ANYTHING.
MISSLE SHOT FROM PLANE CONSPIRACY? DEBUNKD
STEEL MELTING POINT CONSPIRACY? DEBUNKD
I COULD GO ON BUT I WILL LEAVE YOU TO READ IT, THAT IS IF YOU ARE UP TO ACTUALLY READING CREDIBLE SOURCES INSTEAD OF THE WORD OF A FUCKING KID WHO MAKES A SHITTY VIDEO. YEAH, LET'S BELIEVE HIM OVER THE SCIENTISTS. DO YOU EVEN REALIZE HOW IDIOTIC ANYONE IS FOR BELIEVING THIS? DO YOU? DO YOU? SCIENTOLOGISTS FEELS SHITTED ON FOR PEOPLE BELIEVING IN A MORE OUTLANDISH STORY THAN THEIR OWN.
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Laaaaammbb!
By gods, what's the issue some of the people have here? Not questioning the government, be it any country's government, is NOT a healthy thing to do(not to do). Especially after your government rips you away from your freedoms just like that. Grow some balls.
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Haven't we already questioned the gov't and debunked every conspiracy out there? The only thing left is the people believing the story who actually didn't read the debunks
Edit: no, I'm not saying odn't question them. But when the same people regurgitate the same things over and over even though it's been debunked for over years. it gets tiring. if you want to side with them for actually questioning the gov't. Don't tell me anything, tell them to use something that hasn't been debunked for years and get some actual points.
edit: if they can. Which, is kind of doubtful considering most people just show these videos being done by teenagers and pass it off as inexcapably true.
and where the fuck did i suggest not questioning the gov't is good? Politicians do shit all the time. But I'm not going to question something that doesn't hold any water.
I think coke killed Socrates with its weird aftertaste
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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Yeah, yeah, that's true, and your previous post actually did have a point in it now that I actually bothered to read it. Typing in caps doesn't have the same effect as shouting, since people can just skip the annoying part instead of having to listen...
Anyway, I'm still not convinced either way, and probably never will be by the looks of it. I'm just annoyed at how the "free" part in the "land of the free" is being compromised, and there are still many who seem ignorant about it. I guess I'm just worried.
There's a hole in the sky through which things can fly.
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LOL, the US government is not directly responsible for the attacks - I bet my life on it. You can dig up the past and find evidence to explain why these nutters hated the US enough to make such an attack on it, but that doesn't mean the government is responsible.
What governments and media does do is make their citizens so fucking obsessed with the constant threats that will "kill us all" that we don't mind them spending billions to fight a war that nobody cared about before and you forget all about the other things that matter in the world. Keep us scared, so that we will support them in fighting the evil and forget about people who live in poverty, crumbling schools, citizens with no health care - the things that actually affect the average person life in a big way.
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I'd like to point out that Britain seems more of a target at the minute, considering we have just had 1st anniversary of the London bombings i think we are serious at with high muslim population racial tensions are always high,i remember going to Bradford to support my football team, and the people there just peered out the windows at us as if we were foriegn, it felt like a different country. We have the threat coming from from our home turf unlike the americans. I think we have uneccessarily waded into to support the Americans on whatever they want and its cost us.
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| Re: Truth about 9/11... [message #210174 is a reply to message #210110] |
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| Feetseek wrote on Thu, 27 July 2006 21:21 |
About the plance that went for the pentagon-- did you actually hit it? I might have been just a clever plan to persuade people to believe that our country was being attacked by foreigners, could it not???
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My boyfriend (Blazer on here) was in a high-rise condo near Washington, DC, on 9/11. He saw, with his own eyes, the plane right before it hit the Pentagon. It passed so closely to him that he could almost see the passengers inside if the plane weren't going so fast.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Truth about 9/11... [message #210184 is a reply to message #210178] |
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| Dogg wrote on Fri, 28 July 2006 13:25 |
Something I like posting to just generally fuck with the conspiracy theorists and more specifically the Pentagon attack and all this proof that it was a missile, is this video...
http://www.imadogg.com/videos/concreteplane.wmv
People will cry and claim the lack of evidence, plane parts, etc etc etc etc prove it was a missile...
Watch the video...it's a fighter on rails hitting a concrete wall at 500 miles an hour...what's left? Nothing except the extreme wing tips...period...the plane for lack of a better word atomizes itself into nothing in front of your eyes...so yeah...there would not be material like a water crash...a head on collision into a concrete wall will generally atomize the plane...some parts blew or broke off and it was going slower...but it's no where near the proof to cry it was a missile...plus no one could see a missile travelling at 700 mphs...but some could, and did (Like Blazer apparently), see the plane going in...it's a major DC artery (or just outside it) over Rt 27, Columbia Pike, 395, etc etc...and yeah...who looks up all day to even see a plane when 500 a day take off from Reagan...but some did...others just want fame to say it was whatever they want to say for 2 minutes of fame...the ones that actually saw the plane dismissed cause it's not compelling news...
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Just to point out facts, there are relatively few who believe that it was a missile anyway, or at least not a missile alone. For example, if you try to counter the original video posted in this thread, they claimed it was a Global Hawk.
There's a hole in the sky through which things can fly.
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