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| Re: Sony is a master of marketing ads [message #207008 is a reply to message #206983] |
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Now at first glance, this stands to be a pretty offensive advertisement. That was my first reaction, definitely. However it's important to keep in mind that this advertisement isn't running in the US. It's a campaign over in Europe (Holland, if I recall correctly?) only. Why is that? Maybe because here in America we have such a history of racial tension, a history of slavery, an issue that divided our country in two in the face of war. So maybe it seems like a pretty harsh image to us, because we're extra sensitive to that sort of thing, perhaps out of shame, due to that part of our nation's history. (I'm not saying racism doesn't exist elsewhere around the world, but I'm not from elsewhere around the world, so I can't vouch for the feelings of different cultures.)
But the advertisement wasn't meant for us (America). It's probably not a mistake that Sony isn't running that particular campaign in the US. They may have felt it was more likely to be misinterpreted here. So I'm not sure I can condemn them as insensitive just because we Americans are so particularly prone to get our hackles up over things like this. It would sort of be like getting offended that a billboard in Japan is in Japanese, and I can't understand it.
It's just skin. Different colors, sure. And Sony has stated that their goal behind the advertisement was to focus on the contrasting colors (two other images from the campaign). So in that regard, using colors, what's the big deal about using a person with black skin and a person with white skin? It's just color.
It would be nice if we lived in a world where anyone looked at that billboard and all they saw was two people.
But, in America especially, you look at that billboard, and you see a white person in an assumed position of dominance over a black person, and immediately alarms go off in your head. Everything we learned in history class about the 1800's comes flooding into our minds, along with a healthy dose of guilt, and we apply our own demons to the image. We attach 150 years of racial tension to the image, and condemn it for our history, not because of any message it's actually delivering.
Which really is just two people representing two handheld video game consoles.
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| Re: Sony is a master of marketing ads [message #207015 is a reply to message #206983] |
Fri, 07 July 2006 15:23 |
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from what i heard, the dutch are racist against black people over there. Then again, my source may be wrong
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| Re: Sony is a master of marketing ads [message #207017 is a reply to message #206983] |
Fri, 07 July 2006 15:30 |
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LOL, sony fails at advritising.
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| Re: Sony is a master of marketing ads [message #207023 is a reply to message #207015] |
Fri, 07 July 2006 16:24 |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 07 July 2006 18:23 |
from what i heard, the dutch are racist against black people over there. Then again, my source may be wrong
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I am dutch.
The Dutch aren't by standard racist. Problem is the netherlands is quite multi-cultured The discrimination problems that we have here is based more on culture than on color. There are some people who are really scared that these people on come to our country to steal the jobs and live on our welfare.
But you americans aren't the only ones with an history of slavery. The Commonly used word "Apartheid" is as Dutch as it can get. And we had our share of colonies where the local people were used as slaves.
Size doesn't matter.
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| Re: Sony is a master of marketing ads [message #207048 is a reply to message #207015] |
Fri, 07 July 2006 21:05 |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 07 July 2006 17:23 |
from what i heard, the dutch are racist against black people over there. Then again, my source may be wrong
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Blacks are racist against blacks here. Black or white Asian or Dutch that girl is hot, and we all want to pee on her. What?
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| Re: Sony is a master of marketing ads [message #207067 is a reply to message #207057] |
Fri, 07 July 2006 23:24 |
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| DarkDemin wrote on Sat, 08 July 2006 00:19 |
Slavery in Europe existed with all races. America was one of the few countries to dominate a single race and force them into slavery.
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Not quite true. At one point, American settlers enslaved the natives.
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| Re: Sony is a master of marketing ads [message #207077 is a reply to message #207023] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 00:45 |
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| Weirdo wrote on Fri, 07 July 2006 16:24 |
| Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 07 July 2006 18:23 |
from what i heard, the dutch are racist against black people over there. Then again, my source may be wrong
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I am dutch.
The Dutch aren't by standard racist. Problem is the netherlands is quite multi-cultured The discrimination problems that we have here is based more on culture than on color. There are some people who are really scared that these people on come to our country to steal the jobs and live on our welfare.
But you americans aren't the only ones with an history of slavery. The Commonly used word "Apartheid" is as Dutch as it can get. And we had our share of colonies where the local people were used as slaves.
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Don't you have that weird Santa Clause sidekick?
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| Re: Sony is a master of marketing ads [message #207183 is a reply to message #207157] |
Sat, 08 July 2006 22:58 |
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| SpyGuy246 wrote on Sat, 08 July 2006 18:55 |
My problem with those ads isn't that they're possibly "racist." It's that they really don't seem to have anything to do with what they're advertising. Unless they have a new chick-fight game for PS2, it looks random and stupid.
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I agree.
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| Re: Sony is a master of marketing ads [message #207189 is a reply to message #207077] |
Sun, 09 July 2006 01:19 |
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| JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 08 July 2006 03:45 |
| Weirdo wrote on Fri, 07 July 2006 16:24 |
| Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 07 July 2006 18:23 |
from what i heard, the dutch are racist against black people over there. Then again, my source may be wrong
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I am dutch.
The Dutch aren't by standard racist. Problem is the netherlands is quite multi-cultured The discrimination problems that we have here is based more on culture than on color. There are some people who are really scared that these people on come to our country to steal the jobs and live on our welfare.
But you americans aren't the only ones with an history of slavery. The Commonly used word "Apartheid" is as Dutch as it can get. And we had our share of colonies where the local people were used as slaves.
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Don't you have that weird Santa Clause sidekick?
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Yes that's us, The englisch version is based on our one. Our santa clause has instead off his little helpers, Black people named "Black Piets". In the december months this always get's a bit controversial, but since this is something from centuries earilier and the reason they are black doesn't really have anything to do with slavery it won't change.
Size doesn't matter.
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| Re: Sony is a master of marketing ads [message #207534 is a reply to message #207429] |
Tue, 11 July 2006 08:06 |
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| Berkut wrote on Mon, 10 July 2006 20:44 |
Seriously. Anyone who is willing to spend $600 on a game console is in serious need of a girlfriend.
(Then again, as my friend put it, anyone who is willing to spend $6,000 on a girlfriend is in serious need of a game console, so...  )
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Interesting logic, but the first statement is not true, because some people spend much more than that on computer and upgrades for it, and the second statement is a bit weird too.
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