| My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206272] |
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Dr. Lithius
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Edit: You know what? Nevermind. I'm going to post this where it's most relevant... The Ren-Archives forums.
Second Edit: Alright, for those who're curious, I posted the following:| Quote: |
Well, "non00bs" is on my "List," now. And it takes quite a lot to get on said "List". But to summarize, it's a horrible, horrible server. Tunnel beaconing out the ass... Useless community... Lack of moderators... Moderators who don't do jack about anything...useful. But I do have to admit, one Moderator in particular was especially kind to me. One by the name of "dog455555". Yeah, real nice guy. When I alerted him to GDI's ceaseless tunnel beacon spamming, his respond was, and I quote, "O.O". And that's it. I then later asked what server I'd managed to jump into(seeing as my memory sucks and I just picked one where Nod was lacking people, seeing as I wanted to take a screenshot of a stealthed Stealth Tank) and he replied "Non00bs. So go away." My, how socialable! That certainly is Grade-A moderator material there! Must get these folk from some real ripe stuff, I tell you what.
Yeah. Despite its apparent popularity, I'm convinced from today's thirty minutes there that it sucks. Hard. And it's sad that I found this out over the course of only thirty minutes, too. But yeah. I think Non00bs should be Ion Cannon spammed right off the Internet.
But that's just my two cents. ...well, not entirely. But if I continue, I'm certain I'll say something that will jeopardize my status as an upstanding member of this community, Heaven forbid.
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If you have anything to say either for or against what I've said, take it to this thread instead of cluttering up this post. Why? Drama.
Peace.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206310 is a reply to message #206272] |
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You alerted a moderator to something that's allowed in the server? I fail to see what that will achieve.
And if you only joined so you could take a screenshot of a tank, don't expect the server to go out of their way to accommodate you. As for the server being "Ion Cannon spammed off the internet" over a situation in which you were wrong on both counts, I think you're being a little over-dramatic.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206313 is a reply to message #206310] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 10:55 |
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to quote you... | Dr. Lithius |
It's their server, it's their rules
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Hypocrit?
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206323 is a reply to message #206272] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 12:31 |
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What part of "I joined a random server" did you not catch, folks? I'm not purposely being a hypocrite as I never read the rules to the server, alright? I swear, you people swarm like locusts when someone does something stupid, even when it's purely inedverted. Besides, that doesn't change the fact the single moderator on-duty was an ass to me instead of simply stating "Hey. Tunnel-beaconing is allowed here. Please calm down."
Ya know what really fries me, though? They weren't even doing it right. Instead of using it to destroy the Tiberium Refinery, they were just spamming it to point-whore. Which is bullshit. If you're gonna do something that asinine, I say at least do it right.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206343 is a reply to message #206339] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 15:30 |
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| Ma1kel wrote on Sun, 02 July 2006 17:16 |
Can't you just understand the fact that the higher the server is listed in the Game Listenings, the more noobs there play in?
And dog455555 is a complete idiot.
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I agree with the first point wholly. The n00bs seem to congregate in servers such as NS, RA, NoN00bs, and Jelly; (BC gets some too), while there are servers (such as HT's) that practically never get activity due to the a00000 nick race...:'(
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206346 is a reply to message #206339] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 16:33 |
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| Ma1kel wrote on Sun, 02 July 2006 15:16 |
Can't you just understand the fact that the higher the server is listed in the Game Listenings, the more noobs there play in?
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Well...yeah. 'cause n00bs are lazy and don't feel like pressing the Page Down key/clicking the "Next Page" button/browsing the servers altogether. Truth be told, I just generally hop on populated servers, which generally coinsides with the aforementioned "n00b Rule of Thumb". Eh.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206349 is a reply to message #206339] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 17:39 |
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| Ma1kel wrote on Sun, 02 July 2006 18:16 |
Can't you just understand the fact that the higher the server is listed in the Game Listenings, the more noobs there play in?
And dog455555 is a complete idiot.
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You are totally right man, dog455555 IS a complete idiot! He disgraces that server with his modship, shame on magic for that >.>
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206355 is a reply to message #206272] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 19:38 |
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despite all the crying, non00bs has the best players among all communites except clanwars.cc and maybe jelly games.
before you flame (cry) me, just a reminder that so called "pro servers" such as n00bstories and pits lost to us. if you think im wrong then go ahead and set up another game. you pick 15-20 players from the top of your list and i will pick non00bs regurals.
i agree with the part that moderators treat others like shit, but hey, welcome to the internetS!
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Non00bs has a different type of gaming atmosphere. If you don't play to win every game then you won't like it there. The quality of players in the server aren't matched anywhere else. We've challenged every community and won each time, except against Clanwars, which really isn't a server community.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206356 is a reply to message #206272] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 19:59 |
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Bah. I play to have fun a lot of the time. It's just a goofy-ass game, afterall, like World of Warcraft. Now if you wanna go prove your supreritory some place, go play some real stuff, like paintball, or better yet, Airsoft. Now thems some "win-or-die" kind'a games. Shit, even Dance Dance Revolution is like that to a degree. Renegade? Not so much so considering things like...I dunno... You run around and jump and bounce and can still land a perfect headshot with the Sniper Rifle if you're lucky. XD
Don't mind me. I'm a little hyper, so I'm babbling.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206357 is a reply to message #206272] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 20:04 |
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Having good players doesnt count for anything if you have crappy rules(tunnel beaconing allowed? wtf?) and mods.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206362 is a reply to message #206355] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 20:53 |
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| remek wrote on Sun, 02 July 2006 22:38 |
despite all the crying, non00bs has the best players among all communites except clanwars.cc and maybe jelly games.
before you flame (cry) me, just a reminder that so called "pro servers" such as n00bstories and pits lost to us. if you think im wrong then go ahead and set up another game. you pick 15-20 players from the top of your list and i will pick non00bs regurals.
i agree with the part that moderators treat others like shit, but hey, welcome to the internetS!
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I've been challenged a lot more in BBF's server than in NoN00bs' and Jelly's 18 player server.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206363 is a reply to message #206357] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 20:53 |
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| Whitedragon wrote on Sun, 02 July 2006 23:04 |
Having good players doesnt count for anything if you have crappy rules(tunnel beaconing allowed? wtf?) and mods.
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We could disallow tunnel beaconing and change whatever rules our opposing community asked for (considering the fact that we generally played by our opponents' rules in all the community matches so far) and still come out on top...
As for why tunnel beaconing's allowed, there are valid reasons, believe it or not.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206364 is a reply to message #206272] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 20:55 |
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players are the ones that sets a certain server standards (skill/fun/mood/w/e).
crappy ruleS or crappy rule? other than tunnel beaconing non00bs runs the same set of rules as any other server. theres a reason why its allowed; to take advantage of having control over the tunnel. also tunnel beaconing is also available on one map..
as for the mods, they get the job done; ban cheaters. however they dont get to treat people nicly.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206368 is a reply to message #206362] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 21:28 |
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| z310 wrote on Sun, 02 July 2006 22:53 |
| remek wrote on Sun, 02 July 2006 22:38 |
despite all the crying, non00bs has the best players among all communites except clanwars.cc and maybe jelly games.
before you flame (cry) me, just a reminder that so called "pro servers" such as n00bstories and pits lost to us. if you think im wrong then go ahead and set up another game. you pick 15-20 players from the top of your list and i will pick non00bs regurals.
i agree with the part that moderators treat others like shit, but hey, welcome to the internetS!
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I've been challenged a lot more in BBF's server than in nonn00bs' and Jelly's.
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I can only assume the NoN00bs "core", if that's the right word, weren't playing at the time.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206374 is a reply to message #206272] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 22:49 |
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Tunnel beaconing was what was allowed on all servers a couple years ago, it's better. I don't care whether some people consider it a glitch or not, it gives incentive to control the tunnels and promotes teamwork.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206379 is a reply to message #206272] |
Mon, 03 July 2006 00:43 |
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And point-whoring. Lots and lots of point-whoring. Nothing says "Suck it down, bitch!" like shaving off "three cubes" of health from the opposition's Tiberium Refinery. Either that or "I'm a lazy bastard that can't organize a decent team beaconing."
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206380 is a reply to message #206379] |
Mon, 03 July 2006 00:58 |
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| Dr. Lithius wrote on Mon, 03 July 2006 02:43 |
And point-whoring. Lots and lots of point-whoring. Nothing says "Suck it down, bitch!" like shaving off "three cubes" of health from the opposition's Tiberium Refinery. Either that or "I'm a lazy bastard that can't organize a decent team beaconing."
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Most servers allow shooting tanks with ramjets. There's nothing in Renegade (short of cheating) that comes within a million miles of being as queer as that. Tunnel beacons aren't even on the same page.
Plus, control the tunnels.... there's a reward on Field for the team that has more tankskill, it kinda makes sense there should be one for the team that has more inf skill.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206381 is a reply to message #206355] |
Mon, 03 July 2006 01:03 |
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| remek wrote on Sun, 02 July 2006 19:38 |
before you flame (cry) me, just a reminder that so called "pro servers" such as n00bstories and pits lost to us.
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n00bstories has never played a community match, so I don't know where you got your information. This is precisely why we don't do that.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: My Two Cents on Non00bs [message #206382 is a reply to message #206362] |
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| z310 wrote on Sun, 02 July 2006 23:53 |
| remek wrote on Sun, 02 July 2006 22:38 |
despite all the crying, non00bs has the best players among all communites except clanwars.cc and maybe jelly games.
before you flame (cry) me, just a reminder that so called "pro servers" such as n00bstories and pits lost to us. if you think im wrong then go ahead and set up another game. you pick 15-20 players from the top of your list and i will pick non00bs regurals.
i agree with the part that moderators treat others like shit, but hey, welcome to the internetS!
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I've been challenged a lot more in BBF's server than in nonn00bs' and Jelly's.
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Yeah.. non00bs has some decent players but they aren't on very much.. Leaving all the n00bs who don't scroll down to take over the server. 
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