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| RenGuard [message #206147] |
Fri, 30 June 2006 13:57  |
srgmjrten
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I have a question... For some reason I can't download Renguard, I've tried three times and all three times It's told me Incomplete Download. So I continued to play, because I don't cheat anyway. Some retard n00b keeps walking straight twards me and i had a sniper, so, I stuck a bullet in his head. I shot another guy in the head because he was doing the same thing. And then I was shooting at a tank and shot one of those Black Hand invisible guys in the head by mistake, they all did this Forcerg thing on me. Listen, I can't help it if they all suck, and are n00bs. So, what do I do? I can't download RenGuard, and i can't play because people suck.
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| Re: RenGuard [message #206185 is a reply to message #206147] |
Fri, 30 June 2006 20:06  |
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Well... If it's a server that has a forum(*cough*n00bstories*cough*), you could pleade your case to the administration there. Granted, if/when you came back, you might end up being !forcerg'ed again, but this might give a slight hint to whatever server you're on that they should have a moderator in the room at all times. Otherwise, just join another server. There's a good million of 'em out there.
I recommend the Ren-Archive servers, myself. Pretty good community, even if their website is lacking relevant information. They're a little fugly when it comes to typing, too. But so is 90% of the 'net. :x
I'd also recommend HazTeam, but it doesn't seem like anyone's been playing on there lately. Regardless, their community is pretty sweet, too.
And of course, my primary suggestion...however biased...is always "n00bstories CCW". It doesn't get much better than that if you want intense action, regulated servers, and even the occasional bout of solid teamwork.
Edit: Emoticons... Must... DIE!!!
Edit the 2nd: As for your RenGuard errors, I suggest reading these topics. Or, if you just want a summary... "T'was Microsoft...killed the beast."
And ya know...while I'm at it, let me go on-record here and just say that RenGuard is a good idea gone absolutely berserk in the end. Basically, the community has turned RenGuard into its "crutch"; its "tried and true" way of "sniffing out cheaters". It's almost gaurenteed that if you go into a server and get a high score for even one match but aren't running RenGuard, at least one person is gonna be all "!forcerg that fucker!! HE'S CHEATING!!!!1" On any good server, of course, a moderator would step in and test the accused. But most servers go without regulation for extended periods of times, as I've alluded to above. So it all falls apart without moderator intervention, really. Newbs and n00bs seize the day and !forcerg all the competant players back to the Stone Age...and get away with it.
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| Re: RenGuard [message #206198 is a reply to message #206147] |
Fri, 30 June 2006 23:12 |
srgmjrten
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Why thank you, glad to know someone else feels about like I do. Also, I have been to the n0bstories forums, they told me to come here... Odd. Thanks again.
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| Re: RenGuard [message #206199 is a reply to message #206147] |
Fri, 30 June 2006 23:14 |
srgmjrten
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Also, I've decided against RenGuard in the first place. It makes the game lag like no tomorrow. My Uncle tried it and he said it lags him like Dial-Up. His computer is new, BRAND NEW, nothing is on it except Renegade and RenGuard, plus he has a cable connection speed... Extremely fast compared to my DSL. If it lags him, it'd slow mine to nothing but a crawl.
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| Re: RenGuard [message #206205 is a reply to message #206147] |
Sat, 01 July 2006 02:40 |
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Goztow
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Renguard doesn't make you lag. It uses only a couple of kilobytes of bandwith now and then.
I just downloaded Renguard perfectly fine form this location in 6 seconds: http://download.renguard.com/rg_downloads/RenGuard_Setup_1.0 3.exe
I suppose that you have a virus scanner or another protection program that doesn't like .exe - files being downloaded and simply blocks all exe -downloads. Maybe BHS could offer a .zip-download.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: RenGuard [message #206229 is a reply to message #206147] |
Sat, 01 July 2006 11:09 |
srgmjrten
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Ah, I see now... You're right, I have to turn my FireWall off lmfao It was keeping me from downloading it. Alright, I'll try it out.
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| Re: RenGuard [message #206240 is a reply to message #206185] |
Sat, 01 July 2006 14:47 |
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| Dr. Lithius wrote on Fri, 30 June 2006 22:06 |
Well... If it's a server that has a forum(*cough*n00bstories*cough*), you could pleade your case to the administration there. Granted, if/when you came back, you might end up being !forcerg'ed again, but this might give a slight hint to whatever server you're on that they should have a moderator in the room at all times. Otherwise, just join another server. There's a good million of 'em out there.
I recommend the Ren-Archive servers, myself. Pretty good community, even if their website is lacking relevant information. They're a little fugly when it comes to typing, too. But so is 90% of the 'net. 
I'd also recommend HazTeam, but it doesn't seem like anyone's been playing on there lately. Regardless, their community is pretty sweet, too.
And of course, my primary suggestion...however biased...is always "n00bstories CCW". It doesn't get much better than that if you want intense action, regulated servers, and even the occasional bout of solid teamwork.
Edit: Emoticons... Must... DIE!!!
Edit the 2nd: As for your RenGuard errors, I suggest reading these topics. Or, if you just want a summary... "T'was Microsoft...killed the beast."
And ya know...while I'm at it, let me go on-record here and just say that RenGuard is a good idea gone absolutely berserk in the end. Basically, the community has turned RenGuard into its "crutch"; its "tried and true" way of "sniffing out cheaters". It's almost gaurenteed that if you go into a server and get a high score for even one match but aren't running RenGuard, at least one person is gonna be all "!forcerg that fucker!! HE'S CHEATING!!!!1" On any good server, of course, a moderator would step in and test the accused. But most servers go without regulation for extended periods of times, as I've alluded to above. So it all falls apart without moderator intervention, really. Newbs and n00bs seize the day and !forcerg all the competant players back to the Stone Age...and get away with it.
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Excellent point about !forcerg. If RenGuard was good enough (much fewer compatibility issues and the ability to block cheats from injecting into Renegade's memory) to become universal, we'd be able to use Full RenGuard on our servers and just watch for the occasional bypasser. However, that doesn't seem to be happening (1.04 seems to have ran into a brick wall and 1.031 isn't quite to the point I describe yet). To make matters worse, there probably are some Renegade players out there which still run Windows 9x/ME, which lack many of the features needed to make a truly effective anti-cheat. (Process and Thread DACLs come in handy when stopping cheats, for instance.)
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| Re: RenGuard [message #206242 is a reply to message #206147] |
Sat, 01 July 2006 14:58 |
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Just to say, I have nothing against the RenGuard concept, or the program.(In fact, if it wasn't for Microsoft, I'd still be using it.) I have everything against the people that sit there and treat RenGuard as law, however. Those people need to be shot out of a cannon and into the sun, in my opinion.
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| Re: RenGuard [message #206246 is a reply to message #206242] |
Sat, 01 July 2006 15:53 |
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| Dr. Lithius wrote on Sat, 01 July 2006 16:58 |
Just to say, I have nothing against the RenGuard concept, or the program.(In fact, if it wasn't for Microsoft, I'd still be using it.) I have everything against the people that sit there and treat RenGuard as law, however. Those people need to be shot out of a cannon and into the sun, in my opinion.
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The concept is great, the program (RenGuard) could use some tweaking and bug-fixing (but overall works OK), and the people who sit there and treat RenGuard as law do need to be shot into Old Sol IMHO. 4 words: RENGUARD IS NOT PERFECT.
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BlackIntel Coder & Moderator.
If you have trouble running BIATCH on your FDS, have some questions about a BIATCH message or log entry, or think that BIATCH spit out a false positive, PLEASE contact the BlackIntel coding team and avoid wasting the time of others.
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| Re: RenGuard [message #206285 is a reply to message #206147] |
Sun, 02 July 2006 03:25 |
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Goztow
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People listen up. This guy came for help and he got it from me. From nobody else. He got some "ow my gaaaaawd renguard is t3h suckz0r" but that didn't help him, did it? Now let's all stop and let this topic die. There was a problem, it has been solved, no need to continue. k_tx?
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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