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| stupid racist bastards [message #20375] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 02:11   |
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Walrus
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I can not hate any one for their colour. Only the person for their actions and that person alone. And believe me, for what happened to me I have a shit load of people to hate. Although even my resolve in that matter has started to fade. Its a bit self serving I know but it works fine for me.
I suppose humans are predators, we pray on one another for little reason other then they are smaller, or weaker, or slow in thought or body, or a crip, or a faggot, or a puff, a spik, a nigger, the list can go on for hours. It seems a lot of people have come up with a lot of reasons to hate. I used to have reasons like that myself. I grew up.
I have little time left, I would rather be me, then be human.
Yossarian Lives
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20379] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 03:27 |
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England
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Everyone is racist in some form or another.
Why are you so intent against racism? That's like saying we shouldn't look at anyone. The human mind instantly categorizes everything it sees, because it recognizes patterns and remembers them. You see a group of oriental people and you'll remember a group of oriental people the next time you see a single oriental person. It's the way the mind works... It's a defense reaction in a sense. If you feel threatened e.g. by a group of black\white\whatever men walking down the street with lead clubs in their hands, you'll remember that group later when you see another of their kind.
To deny being racist is to deny being human. To deny being human is a lie.
Go ahead and live in denial... I'm a racist and I'm proud of it. I don't like Mexicans... boo fucking hoo. What're you going to do about it? I have the right to my opinions as much as you have the right to not like them... Take an injection of "Get The Fuck Over It" like you preach tolerance and let it go.
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Nobody is denying racism exists, its just we, I, dont want to hear what some bigget has to say.
In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.
When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20391] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 04:58 |
reptokill
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Everyone is racist in some form or another.
Why are you so intent against racism? That's like saying we shouldn't look at anyone. The human mind instantly categorizes everything it sees, because it recognizes patterns and remembers them. You see a group of oriental people and you'll remember a group of oriental people the next time you see a single oriental person. It's the way the mind works... It's a defense reaction in a sense. If you feel threatened e.g. by a group of black\white\whatever men walking down the street with lead clubs in their hands, you'll remember that group later when you see another of their kind.
To deny being racist is to deny being human. To deny being human is a lie.
Go ahead and live in denial... I'm a racist and I'm proud of it. I don't like Mexicans... boo fucking hoo. What're you going to do about it? I have the right to my opinions as much as you have the right to not like them... Take an injection of "Get The Fuck Over It" like you preach tolerance and let it go.
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I agree most of us have some type of prejudice against other people. However, that doesn't give anyone the right to blurt out racial slurs and/or insult people solely based on their race or ethnic background. I know a lot of people think this is just another one of those "politically correct" things to do but I think it's just common decency.
Think whatever you like, but I say keep it to yourself or voice your opinions in a less offensive manner than that. If you have something against a person there are many "Choice" words you can use. Why go and use a racial slur? Are they an asshole because of their race? Nope, assholes come in all shapes and colors.
And ACK, I also think being a racist goes beyond having certain prejudices. Before you can say we are all racists as human we need to define a racist, and like everything else we all have our own little definitions. To me being a racist is acting on those prejudices.
You say you are a racist and proud of it? Do you go around shouting racial slurs at people? Do you advocate segregation? See, there's degrees to everything and a prejudice against a certain people for whatever personal experiences we have had in the past doesn't necesarily makes us a racist.
I think you need to examine that part of the statement, not for me, the forum or anyone else but for yourself. I believe deep down no one really wants to be the guy that goes on tv shows in his white robe making statements like that. As a human race I think we can do better than that and learn to live with each other even if we don't like certain peculiarities about other people. Doesn't mean you have to like it. It just means you can accept people for who they are... and that just makes you a better human being.
(Damn that was loooong... sorry but I had to let it out  )
"iF YOU ALWAYS DO WHAT YOU ALWAYS DID, YOU ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU ALWAYS GOT"
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20402] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 05:33 |
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Walrus
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So what are you, some kind of "gray" alien?
Of course you're human. Don't deny what you are
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I am no alien. I have emotions and I can assure you that I am human. I used the word human in homage to the book 'dune' to be human and to be a person, are two different things. The rest of the statement was drawn from 'the naked ape' by Desmond Morris. If you have not read these books then I am sorry that you did not understand. I should have used more common terms.
what I meant was, that I do not allow some experiences and situations to taint my whole view of life. If I am robbed by a man, and he was Irish, should I hate all Irish and call every single one of them Micks, just because of him? Should I hate all gays because my parents call them fagots?
I do not deny what and who I am. I am a person, an individual. the way that I see things are my own. I do not allow what people tell me to affect me to deeply. But i wonder. Is human to be the same? To be like every one else as species?
When I see the things we can do to one another, I would hope that I am not like them, and will not become them.
As I said... I would rather be me, then to be human. If only for a little while.
Yossarian Lives
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20403] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 05:40 |
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Racism is the belief that your race is superior to another race (which is the same as saying another race is inferior to yours), or that you discriminate against people because of their race.
By the definition of Racism, I am not racist, I don't think that white is better then black, or that black people aren't as smart as white, or etc.
I think that everyone is pretty much equal, the only difference between white and black, is that black people have been in the sun too much.  (Really, melanin, go look it up).
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| Re: stupid racist bastards [message #20406] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 06:01 |
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Don't get carried away everytime you hear the word 'nigger' remember they use it to describe themselves (listen to some 2 pac or equivalent rap artist) this quote.......
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"Tony sucks big nigger dick"
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Is not racist, the one about hanging them, because of there colour, is.
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Ok walk up a black man that you dont know, and call him nigger, i bet you would get your ass kicked.
In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.
When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20437] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 08:38 |
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K9Trooper
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Racism remarks on my server = Instant ban.
IceSword! you disappoint me. A remark like that would have gotten you banned from the original WW Forums. Sorry to say, but for that comment, I hope it happens here.
This topic really needs to be locked. To many people are going/have get out of hand with racist remarks. The maturity level in this topic has dug a hole so deep, it'll probably reach China on the other side.
R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20438] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 08:40 |
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Duke of Nukes
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Racism exists...without prejudices we couldn't exist. Without descrimination, how could we tell who was hot and who was ugly? We would all love or hate every other person equally. We would all be, in fact, bi sexual because we wouldn't descriminate between male and female.
I think racist words should be allowed if they can be used in a context that doesn't sound like a hate word. You can call someone a faggot as long as you aren't using it as an insult, as well as calling someone nigger of darky or even whitey. Stereotypes exist for a reason, but that doesn't mean it applies to everyone. Most the theft I've seen has been by black people. I almost never see less than 10 Asians together, I always see Irish people out getting drunk, and most the Mexicans I know are illegal immagrants that work crappy jobs that no one else wouldn't.
That doesn't mean they are all bad people...I'm friends with most every Irish and Mexican I know. I get along better with them than most Americans. You shouldn't write someone off as a bad person because of prejudices you have against them
I dont care if you write me a letter
I dont care what you say to me no more
All I got is trash left at my door
What you have dont worry me, worry me now more
- Calvin Baty, Craving Theo
What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
- Trent Reznor, NIN
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20442] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 08:52 |
reptokill
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I think racist words should be allowed if they can be used in a context that doesn't sound like a hate word. You can call someone a faggot as long as you aren't using it as an insult, as well as calling someone nigger of darky or even whitey.
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You can call someone a "faggot" or a "nigger" without using it as an insult? If I was either gay or black and someone called me that I would most certainly smash their face in. It's about respect people. Plain and simple, if you expect others to respect you you have to behave in a respectful manner as well.
"iF YOU ALWAYS DO WHAT YOU ALWAYS DID, YOU ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU ALWAYS GOT"
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20453] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 09:19 |
HTDana
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Aside from the smashing faces part, I agree with Reptokill. The only context where faggot isn't a hateful word is when it refers to a stick or bundle of sticks. Otherwise the language is loaded and the person who is using it is at best ignorant of its impact.
HTDana
HazardTeam
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20454] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 09:25 |
reptokill
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Aside from the smashing faces part, I agree with Reptokill. The only context where faggot isn't a hateful word is when it refers to a stick or bundle of sticks. Otherwise the language is loaded and the person who is using it is at best ignorant of its impact.
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ROFL... I said the smashing face part for effect, I don't think I would actually do that...
But then again, YOU NEVER KNOW :twisted:
"iF YOU ALWAYS DO WHAT YOU ALWAYS DID, YOU ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU ALWAYS GOT"
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20462] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 09:51 |
John Shaft Jr.
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Ok I have to post this 3 times cause its so long. Sorry about this.
Hehehehehe….. Alright I have been playing around with this topic cause that’s what I do. I’m a comedian. I make jokes about things like this. Now before this topic gets locked, let me talk for awhile.
1. Now I agree with ACK because he is right. Racism will always exist and never go away. No matter where you live at or at work or any other place where racism exist. The reason is it is part of Human nature. If you look all thru out history there was always racism and hatred. Even in the bible there was a lot of racism and hatred. And it pasted down from generation to generation to generation to now. And you think racism will ever go away. Hell no. Cause everybody is racist in some form or way. It’s just that people know exactly what to say to not appear racist in front of other people. But they know they are.
That’s why I believe people should say what ever is on their mind. Seriously, if you’re racist against a certain group you should say you are racist against a certain group. Now other people may not like it and you might end up getting your ass kicked but atleast you let something out of your self. That’s why I always liked this quote:
"I'd rather be disliked for who I am, than liked for who I am not."
Because you feel much more of a better person for whom you are. That’s the reason why I like ACK. Cause he does not care who likes him, what people think of him, or what people say about him. Cause no matter what, ACK is going to come online and be his same old self no matter if you like him or not. It’s true, why act like you’re not racist when you’re truly are. Like John Rocker for example: Anybody remember him. Ok, he was a pitcher for the Atlanta Braves and he made a derogatory comment about Blacks and Hispanics of New York City. Now I was not mad at the comment he made. I was made AT THAT BULLSHIT ASS apology he gave on TV. Because of you mean what you say then you should not apologize for it.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20463] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 09:52 |
John Shaft Jr.
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2. Now Racism can be in any form or fashion. One of the definition is what Sir Phoenix had said. But Racism can go way beyond that. Racism can be in many ways. For example: You know people would try to explain they are not racist and say something like, “Oh I’m not racist. I had three black people over to my house.” or “I’m not racist because I have three white friends.” or “I’m not racist because I hired 3 Puerto Ricans to work for me just yesterday.” or “I have a Asian girlfriend.” Now that’s racism. Because it wasn’t racism, you wouldn’t be dicing a race up in groups and counting how many friends you have from every race group out there. You would just say, “Well I have 23 best friends” or “I hired 3 people yesterday.” Because really it should not matter what friends from any race group you or who you date. But see people do it anyway cause its human nature to do it. Been doing it for so many years now. Why stop? I know it’s the right thing to do, but people are not going to stop doing it.
I can explain so many racist ways people can be racist. Its not even funny. For example: making fun of the French. A lot of people don’t know but when you make French jokes, you are being racist cause you're using stereotypes but in a joking matter. That’s the same thing that goes with anything else when people make polish joke, or when Americans make jokes about Canadians and Canadians make jokes about Americans. And the same with the English, Scottish, Australians, etc. When you make a joke about any nationality you are being racist cause you are discriminating and using a stereotype to make it sound funny. But I see a lot of people do that on here.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20465] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 09:53 |
John Shaft Jr.
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So really, in some form or fashion, we’re all racists. It just something that makes us racist. Like me for example: I’m not racist cause I think I’m superior to a inferior race or anything like that. I’m racist cause I do racist jokes. Cause I’m a comedian and that’s what black comedians do. If you look at any Black comedian what are the jokes they always talk about. Its always three things they are talk about.
1. Racism: They talk about Black people, White people, Hispanics, anyone, etc. They talk about the differences and how everybody are the same but just do things differently.
2. Sexism: Always have to talk about Men and women and the differences between them.
3. And everyday normal stuff such as sex, walking home, going to work, Micheal Jackson (hehehehehehe, had to thru that one in there), etc.
That’s the three things mostly Black comedians talk about. If you watch Black comedians shows from Richard Pryor, Red Fox, and Eddie Murphy all the way to Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, and Martin Lawrence that is what they always talk about. And they make people laugh. Matter of Fact every comedian almost doe that. Jerry Seinfeld does Jewish jokes all the time. Jeff Foxworthy (which is one funny mutha) does Redneck jokes. Sarah Silverman does all types of jokes. And so on and so on.
That’s the reason why I like being a comedian. Cause you can make people laugh at the craziest things. Its like what Richard Pryor says, “It not what you say. Its how you say it. If you say it in a funny sort of way and get the majority of the people laughing you have done a great job of being a comedian.” And let me tell you I say some of the funniest jokes. I do stand up comedy every Saturday Night to raise money for Charity at this comedy club I perform at. And a critic came and saw me perform and said I was as funny as Chris Rock on a Sunday Afternoon in Church. I laughed my ass off when he said that.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20466] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 09:53 |
KIRBY098
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Lock and burn this topic.
This is waaaaaaay too mature a topic for some of these kids.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20483] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 11:12 |
joroe34
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It scares me to know that people with ACK's mentality exist. They attempt to justify their ignorance by making statements that "everyone is racist." No ACK, I am not racist. I can say this because for two years I was on the other side. The one who was being discriminated against. I lived in a Country where Americans in the militarty were hated. I could not go into certain resteraunts, clubs etc... I could not shop in certain stores and the natives did their best to avoid having contact with me. It was known that the Natives thought Americans smelled funny and worried that we would come out at night to rape their children. I must say, it really sucked. It was an eye opener. So ACK, I challenge you. Grow up! Join the US Army, request deployment to the Middle East, live there for a year. And lets see if you will still be so ignorant. In other words... put yourself in the mexican's shoes.
Just my thought.
We have two ears but only one mouth. So that we can listen more and talk less.
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| stupid racist bastards [message #20491] |
Wed, 14 May 2003 11:56 |
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It scares me to know that people with ACK's mentality exist. They attempt to justify their ignorance by making statements that "everyone is racist." No ACK, I am not racist. I can say this because for two years I was on the other side. The one who was being discriminated against. I lived in a Country where Americans in the militarty were hated. I could not go into certain resteraunts, clubs etc... I could not shop in certain stores and the natives did their best to avoid having contact with me. It was known that the Natives thought Americans smelled funny and worried that we would come out at night to rape their children. I must say, it really sucked. It was an eye opener. So ACK, I challenge you. Grow up! Join the US Army, request deployment to the Middle East, live there for a year. And lets see if you will still be so ignorant. In other words... put yourself in the mexican's shoes.
Just my thought.
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In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.
When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
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