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Re: New Computer Research [message #204314 is a reply to message #203573] Sat, 17 June 2006 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mision, go find other posts to post in then. If you're gonna be a jerk I'm sure there's a big flaming fight going on in the mod forum or someone trolling about elsewhere. You'll fit right in.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #204316 is a reply to message #204228] Sat, 17 June 2006 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DarkDemin wrote on Sat, 17 June 2006 07:44

Blazer wrote on Fri, 16 June 2006 22:10

I wouldn't buy a processor right now. Wait a month and get a Conroe (Core 2 Duo). Cheaper, faster, and 50% less power.


DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 15 June 2006 00:14

Intel has a tendency to exagerate.


Until I see the benchmarks on TomsHardware.com I won't believe it.


They have had benchmarks posted for some time, of a 2.6Ghz Conroe totally owning AMD's best CPU (The FX-62), even though the conroe was clocked 5% slower. The 3+GHz Conroes will be ultimate ownage, and I can guarantee you will regret not waiting for one.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/05/first_benchmarks_conr oe_vs_fx-62/
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Re: New Computer Research [message #204317 is a reply to message #203573] Sat, 17 June 2006 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dont get a 512 they overheat. they used aluminim to cool it when they should of used copper.

(dont ask how I know that)



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Memphis wrote on Tue, 15 May 2007 03:54

...fatally die to death...


I don't know if you meant to do that, but triple redundancy for teh win. I LOL'ed.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #204319 is a reply to message #203573] Sat, 17 June 2006 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've seen the benchmarks Blazer, but I wouldn't be happy owning one. I would feel weird. Intel processors just give me a real bad vibe. Even if the AMD was 200$ more and 50% slower I'd get the AMD. It just feels like home. Very Happy

Also Idjit what are you talking about? What overheats?


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Re: New Computer Research [message #204321 is a reply to message #203573] Sat, 17 June 2006 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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512 video cards.

My dad works at a electronics store and peopel return them 2-3 times a day for overheating.

They overheat cus they have aluminim and should have copper to help disipate the heat.



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Crimson wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 05:22

Memphis wrote on Tue, 15 May 2007 03:54

...fatally die to death...


I don't know if you meant to do that, but triple redundancy for teh win. I LOL'ed.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #204322 is a reply to message #204319] Sat, 17 June 2006 22:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doitle wrote on Sun, 18 June 2006 01:41

I've seen the benchmarks Blazer, but I wouldn't be happy owning one. I would feel weird. Intel processors just give me a real bad vibe. Even if the AMD was 200$ more and 50% slower I'd get the AMD. It just feels like home. Very Happy


I hear where you are coming from. I have been 100% AMD ever since the first PC I bought for myself, which was an AMD 386-40Mhz. I have upgraded and built many PCs over the years, up to my current Athlon 64 3000+. This is the first time I find myself considering to buy an Intel processor.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #204344 is a reply to message #204321] Sun, 18 June 2006 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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idjit626 wrote on Sun, 18 June 2006 01:43

512 video cards.

My dad works at a electronics store and peopel return them 2-3 times a day for overheating.

They overheat cus they have aluminim and should have copper to help disipate the heat.


Unless they have the shittiest cooling system in their computers it shouldn't overheat. What brand are these video cards?


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Re: New Computer Research [message #204384 is a reply to message #204279] Sun, 18 June 2006 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doitle wrote on Sat, 17 June 2006 19:57

Part of the difference is that memory is so much faster than a hard drive. That's why they make programs to use your memory as a hard drive. Things put on it load near instantly. There is a tradeoff however, I beleive that more chips are better. Each Memory Module can only do so much at a time, and if you have two 512MB memory modules of the same speed, compared to one Gigabyte memory module, the two chips can do twice as many operations. At least at far as I understand it.


You're right, but only if the two memory modules are used on a dual channel motherboard, which allows a 128-bit memory interface when dual channel mode is enabled (compared to a 64-bit interface with just one module, or two in a non dual channel configuration, i.e. non matching modules). However, there is no bandwidth gain in having 4 modules versus 2.
Re: New Computer Research [message #204421 is a reply to message #203573] Sun, 18 June 2006 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, it looks like me and Jer are gonna go with most of the setup Exdeath provided, swapping the 3800+ for a 4200+ and we need a different video card. While that is a placeholder card, we need something a little bit more substantial. That 6800XT is quite a bit boiled down from the other 6800s. It has 8 pixel pipelines instead of 12 and a few other performance detriments.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168141211 92

We're like sweet! Perfect! Wrong :/ It's out of stock. What are the odds eh? Anyhow can you guys suggest anything in the range of performance of that without being ridiculous? I might just break down and get a single 7950GX2 and be done with video cards for a while. Very Happy


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Re: New Computer Research [message #204432 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 19 June 2006 02:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168141501 44

Slightly more, but better than a 6800GT.
Re: New Computer Research [message #204434 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 19 June 2006 04:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DX 10 won't work with windows XP so only worry about DX 10 cards if you plan on buying vista :-\.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #204466 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 19 June 2006 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wooo I just ordered my stuff... I am soo happy... Big Grin Big Grin

This is what it consists of:
This motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131310 13
This Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E168171210 11
Maybe one of these Sata drives:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168221440 32
This RAM, Expensive but worth it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168201450 34

All of the above suggested by EXdeath

This Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168191037 47
These cooling devices:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168351280 10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168351292 44
These DVD Drives
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168271350 63
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168271350 85
(Yes I know one is a burner and the other is not)

AND FINALLY... THE CASE... DUN DUN DUN... hehehe:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-det ails.asp?EdpNo=1215768

Re: New Computer Research [message #204476 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 19 June 2006 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Case Raidmax Scorpio $45.99
Video Card eVGA 256-P2-N564 GeForce 7900GT KO 256MB PCI-E x 2 $547.98
Motherboard Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe ATX AMD Motherboard $149.99
Hard Drive 1 Maxtor Maxline III 300GB 3.5" SATA Hard Drive $118.99
Hard Drive 2 Maxtor Maxline III 300GB 3.5" SATA Hard Drive $118.99
Sound Card Integrated $0.00
Monitor $0.00
OS Windows XP Pro / SP2 $137.99
Power Supply Kingwin ABT-520MA1 520W Power Supply $109.99
Mouse Microsoft Intelimouse $30.00
Keyboard Saitek Eclipse Keyboard $46.99
Memory Corsair XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) $270.00


Total $1,576.91

This is what It's shaping up as.



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Re: New Computer Research [message #204488 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 19 June 2006 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm glad to have helped you guys. I'm building pretty much the same system, just a little less expensive. Rocked Over I'm really excited to play with the AM2 mainboards and processors.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #204493 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 19 June 2006 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glad I could help, too.
Re: New Computer Research [message #204585 is a reply to message #203573] Tue, 20 June 2006 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know why you're considering going with that Kingwin PSU. A PSU is the last part you want to take a chance on, and if "it looks cool" is one of your reasons for considering it, you need to stop and slap yourself now.

There are several known and trusted brands that you should be looking at instead: PCP&C, Enermax, Antec, OCZ, Fortron(FSP), seasonic, and Tagan are the ones that come to mind right now.

Since you're going with SLI, I'd recommend looking at around a 600W PSU, but most of the PSUs over 500W that those companies provide shouldn't give you any trouble.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #204591 is a reply to message #203573] Tue, 20 June 2006 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's the only PSU that has really been suggested. I'll look into those other brands but... Dark Demin or another suggested a PCP&C PSU and it was 500$. I couldn't justify that any day of the week. o_O

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Re: New Computer Research [message #204592 is a reply to message #203573] Tue, 20 June 2006 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You don't need a PCP&C, their models go from 510W to about 850W. You want something in between.

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Re: New Computer Research [message #205066 is a reply to message #203573] Fri, 23 June 2006 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32594
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32589


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Re: New Computer Research [message #205457 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 26 June 2006 01:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sweet! I knew you could do it AMD! Bravo!

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Re: New Computer Research [message #205459 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 26 June 2006 02:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sweet!
Re: New Computer Research [message #205505 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 26 June 2006 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd personally wait. Conroe, maybe? The new 65nm AMDs? G80? R600?

Yeah, I'd say. But then again, there's always something behind the corner *just* about to come out.


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Re: New Computer Research [message #205527 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 26 June 2006 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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not necessarily. It seems that every other summer there's a huge change in hardware. Right now we're at that point and building a new long-term computer at this moment wouldn't be smart.
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Re: New Computer Research [message #205555 is a reply to message #203573] Mon, 26 June 2006 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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uh, there are tons of 1.5 to 2 grand laptops that can.
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