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Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #201896 is a reply to message #188804] Wed, 31 May 2006 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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?!There are universal laws of physics..



One Law of Physics: Nothing can travel faster than the documented speed of light (186,000 miles (299,300 kilometers) per second.)
However, Now, however, physicists are coming closer to finding out how, in some situations, light may actually travel faster than that

Not much of a law if it can be broken.

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It doesn't bring it up...you're the one who said that religious text is supposed to be proof for God, so I just went along and showed how easy it is to make that stuff up, thus it can't be called proof


Nope, I didn't. What I said was:
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The clues that people have about God, are the religious text, and the world around them.

Clues do not equal proof. Clues equal a suggestion of something.

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It's hearsay.


What about it is hearsay? Unless you're suggesting that makes it wrong, in which case science falls under the same category.

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Philosophy isn't the only thing that backs up science, clues and evidence do, too. Religion however doesn't try to prove anything.



No the only thing, but it is one thing.

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Nope, I'm just telling you why I believe the way I do.


Ok, so you believe in something simply based on the idea of it being illogical to you... ok then. I can't actually believe I'm going to reference Star Trek here, but by all Vulcan accounts, all human logic and intuition is illogical... however, that never made it wrong.

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Nothing I can do about your inability to explain things..


Yes, quoting something that has nothing to do with your argument is going to work.

My choice not to explain something has nothing to do with my ability to.

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If science actually manages to prove things, then why shouldn't I believe it? For the 5th time or so...don't call it science, since it was neither proven nor was there any evidence of it's truthfulness, which is exactly what science isn't about.


All you can do is possess the belief that science is not lying to you. You have no way to independently verify everything that is told to you, so you must rely on faith that it is correct.

Other than that, it was deemed science back then. Stating it wasn't science now, doesn't change that fact of what it was back then.

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Are you retarded? So if someone says "I could throw a stone through that window" your response will be "HAY I WONT BELIEVE YOU UNTIL YOU DO IT!!!", right?


Finally resorted to blatant avoidance, huh? I can't blame you. And please don't start mixing belief with proof. Of course I believe he could throw the stone, just as I believe in the existence of molecules. However, that does not mean I can prove it until I can independently witness it.

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Then it's your intuition and irrational. Live with it..



Kind of like your inability to prove the existence of molecules then, I take it?

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Read above...I'm still waiting for a reason to believe in God BTW.


Ah, finally you're one the right track. No longer looking for proof in God, just a reason to believe. I applaud that.

Simplistic Reason: Something had to create the universe, why not God? Or, if the universe could have always been there, why not God?
 
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