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| Dover wrote on Fri, 21 April 2006 11:17 |
The rocket launchers in APB already do track. Secondary fire shoots a rocket that's faster and homes onto targets, but does slightly less damage.
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Huh. Did not know that. Of course, I've yet to do real multiplayer with it. I need to learn how to find APB servers on GameSpy or somewhere.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197260 is a reply to message #196782] |
Fri, 21 April 2006 12:07 |
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Kind of weird, the homing rockets in APB home to everything, not just aircraft. Makes them useful for elimating tiny infantry from far away, but it makes me question the realism, and the usefulness of the regular shot...
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200066 is a reply to message #200040] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 11:22 |
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| ripred999 wrote on Fri, 19 May 2006 11:25 |
its fair.those people that complain about it are n00bs.they cant go up there kill all those snipers or run them over.NOOO!!have to always complain about stuff.I never complain about that stuff.and if they're not good enough to operate the orcas or choppers y dont they just stop giving the other team points!!! 
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You forgot to put capslock on........sucker
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200140 is a reply to message #200066] |
Sat, 20 May 2006 00:11 |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 19 May 2006 14:22 |
You forgot to put capslock on........sucker
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but he didn't forget to doublepost -.-
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200152 is a reply to message #196782] |
Sat, 20 May 2006 06:09 |
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Gawd, stop whining about ramjets and play, if you cant handle them you suck.
I use ramjets from time to time, but only against infantry and air units, the exception of course if is if i come under fire from ground vehicles, i dont know why ppl are so obsessed with points, the important part to me is to defend the base by any methods needed.
And heres a tip for lowering the chance of being shot out of the sky, keep low, close to the ground, at least on walls. it all comes down to proper teamwork, a good team can defeat anyone and anything. So in my opinion anyone who whines over ramjets, SUCK!, and i dont consider ramjets always that good, my goal is to destroy the enemy base, that is the ultimate victory, anything else is to me a stalemate.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200200 is a reply to message #196782] |
Sat, 20 May 2006 17:42 |
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By the time you had 7 copters they'd have enough for n00bjets not to mention some of their own. This is why usually not many people do this kind of rush, especially since most people just let the base defences hit them and have no idea of how to fly.
assuming you were thinking mainly of stopping Havocs, seeing as how you mentioned killing the barracks but not the hand or anything, you might also note that 3(4 is more realistic) out of the 7 orcas would die rushing the powerplant. Probably one or two more would die from the ob behind the powerplant because they don't know how to cover from it..
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During the flying beta test, Devinoch had told us that n00b cannons were made the principal means of AA fire because WS didn't have the time to make missile equipped units lock on to targets properly. This is where everyone arguing for the n00b cannon is wrong; so please, shut up about it. I've been around since long before all of you were, in all the beta tests. I know exactly what happened, so if you want to tell me that n00b cannon Ramjet Rifles are balanced then you'd better start telling me that the sky is green, because I'm not going to believe either...
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The thread should have ended after this, so I'll just repost it.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200307 is a reply to message #196782] |
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I suppose "complaining about it" never got far with blacks and women rights? Besides, whose dictionary are you using for the definition of n00b? If it's yours, you clearly aren't qualified to be making a dictionary. If it's not yours, then they aren't qualified to be making a dictionary. How in God's name is complaining anything related to playing the game for over a large amount and still sucking? Can you please clarify? No? That's a fucking shame. Now can you shut up before making more non-sensical statements? Thank you in advance, buster.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200331 is a reply to message #196782] |
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my suggestion to balance the n00bjet would be to reduce the damage... so that if you hit a basic soldier with full health, after a bodyshot he got 1hp left... so this prevent people from killwhoring bases without basedefense... (remember walls without barracks, funny to have 7 havocs up the mesa who kills everything in sight...but not for Nod)
but against orcas/apaches? uhm yes its a hard (maybe impossible to beat enemy) but without the n00bjet someone have to weaken air...or how do you want to stop a orcafleet crushing your base? with pistols?
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200352 is a reply to message #196782] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 06:28 |
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You don't see anything wrong because you probably don't use a copter that much, especially after, "I like ramjets". the idea that two people who suck monsterously at the game can buy two havocs/sakuras and can kill a copter with ease unless the copter knows what he's doing (and the snipers don't, which is usually the case)
Let me put it to ya this way. If I go out on field with a med tank, I have a good chance of killing 2-3 light tanks if they suck. Why? Because they have no skill and can't shoot at me and usually miss. Now in the case when fighting the noobjet, it takes absolutely *no* skill to shoot a vehicle, (this goes double for arties/mrls by the way, which has no valid reason for doing damage against it, and no one can refute) It takes no skill to shoot at the vehicle because of two things: It fires instantly, and it has unlimited range. Now, if it took an ounce of skill to use a noobjet (ie the idea that they either have to fire more shots (less-damaging noobjet), or have to lead their shots (slow-firing noobjet)) Have a gun do all of these and any random person can be "good" just because *anyone* can use it.
Care to refute any of this, red? Because I'd like for you to come out of your veil and show how smart you really are. That is of course if you already are unveiled 
@ Wodka, if people actually had as much "teamwork" as getting 5 noobjets, they can be sure to get 5 PICs / Raves, which would dessimate any copter(Which they won't do, by the way, because they won't have that super range of shooting copters from the other side of the map so they'll probably cry and leave the game since they can't use anything but noobjets). Aside from that, APCs, tanks, and (gasp) another orca/apache is fine enough to do the job, plus, i wasn't saying making the damage against copters be null and void, I was saying for it to do less damage (more like the ramjets do 500sniper damage whilst the 500snipers did the null and void damage. Every bit of armour you take off a copter helps another copter, so it would be good anti air, just it's not going to damage and kill copters near-instantly.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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Aircraftkiller basically said what we need to know: the designers of the game thought this was needed to make it balanced, who are we to say it isn't? OK, they said they put it in because there was nothing better but they still decided it had to be in for balance reasons. Orca/apache are way overpowered anyway.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200357 is a reply to message #196782] |
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Aircraftkiller basically said what we need to know: the designers of the game thought this was needed to make it balanced, who are we to say it isn't? OK, they said they put it in because there was nothing better but they still decided it had to be in for balance reasons. Orca/apache are way overpowered anyway.
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Who are we to say it isn't balanced? We're the players of the game. They(ramjets) were rushed and honestly, I don't think Westwood thought people would abuse noobjets to get 1000s of points and having 5 of them on one team shooting everything and anything in sight to get a score and thus be "better" But like I've ALREADY FUCKING SAID.(Read the topic, PLEASE) A unit can be anti-whatever but it doesn't have to do massive damage/unlimited range/shoot instantly. That's like saying, well, copters are too strong so we'll put in a unit that kills copters in one hit. Unbalanced? Yes. The idea is not to take away the anti-air (noobjets) but lower the aspects of the noobjet so that it doesn't make it so easy to destroy one. I'm *FINE* with it being anti-air but it's way too overpowered when any dimwitted fool being new to this game (or spent the entirety of whatever he's played so far) and using noobjets. Aside from that, tanks aren't that *horrible* at killing copters, you just need to know how to aim them. (ie have good skill) The average noob doesn't know how to fly a copter, thus, even a tank, apc, or a soldier can kill a copter. Can't say this when that same noob who can't copter grabs a ramjet and shoots copters out of the sky, can you? Why? because it doesn't take a bit of skill to do it.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200362 is a reply to message #196782] |
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Yeah, damn people trying to correct things that are wrong.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200365 is a reply to message #200364] |
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| Alexraptor wrote on Mon, 22 May 2006 10:16 |
that is never going to change
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you know, these two contradict eachother
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200391 is a reply to message #200362] |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Mon, 22 May 2006 10:51 |
Yeah, damn people trying to correct things that are wrong.
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That's the whole point, for me and for others: it is not wrong. That's just your personal opinion you try to put us on with.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #200401 is a reply to message #196782] |
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OK. And how is it not wrong?
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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