| Re: Discussion: 1 week ban from xwis for cheaters [message #197819 is a reply to message #197814] |
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| xptek wrote on Wed, 26 April 2006 15:24 |
Really don't feel it should be up to XWIS to ban cheaters when there's quite a few different opinions on what's actually considered cheating (clearscope, etc).
I'd recommend something like a DNSBL, where known cheaters' serial hashes are blacklisted. This would provide server owners with a little more freedom to decide who's playing on their servers while helping to prevent cheating.
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Nightma and myself already suggested something like a blacklist (read global banlist) with NR and BR support in the serverowners forum. Aside from technical difficulties, there will allways be the problems like who should be able to put in those bans. The succes of something like this will greatly depend on the willingness of serverowners to actually support and turn on such a feature.
Just look at renguard. There are still far too many people not willing to use it on their servers or clients. Renguard would be far more succesfull if everybody just put their servers to full renguard. I have been playing on a server that was allways full renguard and we never had any cheater problems. Allthough I have to say this was before the renguard bypasses were made. I still believe the majority of cheaters are people that don't know how to bypass renguard.
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| Re: Discussion: 1 week ban from xwis for cheaters [message #197872 is a reply to message #197613] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 17:54 |
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I also intend to develop a "RenGuard Lite" software:
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Basically, whenever you ban/kickban a player from your server, your bot would (have to) send the information to my server. (Username, IP, serial hash if you have it) -- ALL bans are recorded. Bans without decipherable reasons (like "go away" or "enough") will be rejected.
Based on some factors I'm working out, each player in the database would have a "level" of risk attached to them, which would be returned when you query the server for a player who joined. Then you can decide what level of people you want to kick.
This solves the problem where we wouldn't have control over who's banned or not. I would (probably) have a website you could visit to see who's banned, what level ban, and the reasons.
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| Re: Discussion: 1 week ban from xwis for cheaters [message #197919 is a reply to message #197613] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 23:34 |
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The nice part of what I proposed here is that it can be done immediately, with agreement from Strike team ofcourse. I'm pretty sure almost all other alternatives need quite a bit of work.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Discussion: 1 week ban from xwis for cheaters [message #197976 is a reply to message #197613] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 11:17 |
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Just make sure that if XWIS bans for Renegade are put in place, that the cheater was not on a server which specifically allows bullshit to be done, or that has various "unfair" server-side mods in use. I know of two such servers. It would be a shame if some unknowing person happens into one of those servers and gets one of the regulars banned from XWIS for something the regular knew was allowed on that server, and that the new guy knew wasn't allowed in other servers.
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| Re: Discussion: 1 week ban from xwis for cheaters [message #198025 is a reply to message #197982] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 23:37 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Thu, 27 April 2006 16:29 |
If anyone knows Cyberpunk's serial that's first on the list i think.
It would be a good idea.
I hope we get it implemented.
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He has too many anyway different ones anyway, somehow he seems to like giving out a lot of money to EA...
Crimson got him on renguard, though, he has been banned from that  .
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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