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Considering that I am replying to you, I don't know where you come to the conclusion that I'm not reading what you are saying.
This case is very cut and dry in my eyes, but if he wants to apologize, that's all well and good, but I have one small problem -- the interface that I have been provided doesn't HAVE a way to delete a ban, so I would have to contact Olaf separately to ask for the ban removed. But, I'm not entirely sure how well my reasoning of "well, he apologized somewhere I think" would go over.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189135 is a reply to message #189134] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 10:06 |
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I understand that completely Crimson. I just wanted to get across that his ban deserved a second look, that's all. I'm sorry about how I entered the forum, I was way too critical, and now I really understand why he was banned. If he is unbanned, I will be very happy, if not, I will still be happy because you have at least looked at this. Again, thank you for your time, and keep up the good work.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189151 is a reply to message #189055] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 11:25 |
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| pujols005 wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 23:30 |
Dear Crimson,
Hello. You may not know me. And I may not know you. I do know a certain Snip though. As a fellow operator at a server he is an operator at, I was shocked to learn that he was banned from renegade. I knew he would never cheat, as the guy I know would never ever cheat. He is one of the most respected players I know. So when he told me that he was banned for spamming a bot, when bots are banned from even showing up, I thought it was very weird.
I also find it weird that most of you people here consider renguard to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. Do you realize that we have seen people get around renguard? And what about the many glitches that program has? Do you realize that I know people who have had to re install everything on their machine bacause of renguard suddenly not allowing them to play? Not only that, but when I was even able to get renguard to work, it DIDNT WORK. It would always say "pujols005 is not running renguard" when i had the damn screen up there and was logged into renguard. I feel that many of you place way too much stock on how good renguard is. It does its job some of the time, but it is very unreliable.
I finish with this: renegade is, sadly, dying. XWIS hasnt been that bad, when you discount that the clan page wasnt up for an age and a half. But I have noticed that it has mostly been good, honest players being booted lately from the game as n00bs take it over completely. I, for one, am tired of renguard continuing to be praised and of great players and people being booted. Snip should be allowed to come back. He made a mistake, but who doesnt? And also, bots are banned in the first place. Where was Crimson when the bot got on?
And to all the morons who think that snip is a n00b, I say this: stop just saying things to be completely loyal to Crimson, who also makes mistakes and this was one of them. Why dont you look at the facts for one time in your damn lives? If i get banned for writing this post, so be it. That will just show that dumbasses have taken over, because I am trying to reason with you here. In fact, I am sure some dumbass will reply to this post with their favorite putdown "you n00b". I say to that person: grow balls and tell me what you really think. Thank you.
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You may not know me but I have delt with you. You my friend are a fool, your server is a joke, you are a bunch of immature retards who stab people in the back and attack people/servers. I have more respect for xphaze than you and I hate them with a passion. He is not respected for two simple reason. The server he is connected to and the fact that in his first post he mentioned cyberprick. In terms of what RG has done for Renegade it is the best thing since sliced bread. If you pulled your head out of your ass you would know that. That doesn't mean that it is perfect. To expect an anti-cheat to be 100% is something only people like you do when digging for excuses. I also know that it works, any bypasses that do work are not main stream and it keeps what is main stream out. If you have a better anit-cheat on your server then by all means do share. You have all these cute ways to dance around the subject but the simple fact is what he did was wrong and his stupid ass got cought. But I really don't see what the problem is. Why would you care about being banned from a game that is dying???
... that enough balls for you?
btw, you are both n00bs
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189168 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 13:31 |
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in reference to me using the nickname CyberPunk, I did it to make fun of the guy, not because I idolize him. I have only played with the name while having a joke with my friends. I also used the name Acolyte, which is a member that i banned from the servers I used to mod, The IRC that I mod, and the clan that i was a member of because of several death threats the that he gave several people and myself. I used his name to make fun of him, and also he has taken my name to make fun of me and try to make people believe that I am a Cheater. The fact that I used those two names has no importance this topic.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189170 is a reply to message #189151] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 13:34 |
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You may not know me but I have delt with you. You my friend are a fool, your server is a joke, you are a bunch of immature retards who stab people in the back and attack people/servers. I have more respect for xphaze than you and I hate them with a passion. He is not respected for two simple reason. The server he is connected to and the fact that in his first post he mentioned cyberprick. In terms of what RG has done for Renegade it is the best thing since sliced bread. If you pulled your head out of your ass you would know that. That doesn't mean that it is perfect. To expect an anti-cheat to be 100% is something only people like you do when digging for excuses. I also know that it works, any bypasses that do work are not main stream and it keeps what is main stream out. If you have a better anit-cheat on your server then by all means do share. You have all these cute ways to dance around the subject but the simple fact is what he did was wrong and his stupid ass got cought. But I really don't see what the problem is. Why would you care about being banned from a game that is dying???
... that enough balls for you?
btw, you are both n00bs
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First off man, why go off on me? First off I apologised for that opening post that I made, and I understand why snip was banned.
Second off, you cant put everyone in the same category for fnfall servers, and I have never seen you in my life. There are a lot of good people in there. I am nice to everyone I meet in there, and I would never ever backstab.
Next, like I said, I wouldnt care much if I was banned from the game, even though I still love it. I just am responding because Snip is very upset about it and I wanted to see if he could get a second chance. Please read my later posts, you will see that I am now agreeing with Crimson for the decision, and just wanted her to look at it differently, while she also got me to look at it differently.
And n00bs? You just reinforced what I first said. You are the immature one, thinking that n00b is a terrible thing to call me and calling me one for no reason whatsoever.
And again, I have never seen you in my life so you haven't "dealt with me". Are you somebody I banned a long time ago or something, is that why you are so angry at me?
And by the way this is a pretty good forum Crimson, I plan to come here more often now 
Pujols005
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189181 is a reply to message #189102] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 14:08 |
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| revival65 wrote on Thu, 09 February 2006 04:30 |
| pujols005 wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 23:42 |
like I said, we all feel very bad at Fnfall servers, and would like the guy to get a second chance.
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Revival, I honestly dont care what you think and i dont think anyone should. You are a ripper of peoples work. You are completely dishonest, taking talented peoples work and giving it out as your own. And dont you dare denie it because you did it to Tweek. You ripped the modlist from the public version on NGSGuard and gave it to me saying "i worked on this for a while"
The help script you sent me was just a rip off the modlist, only thing different was the way it was worded. And you were the one that wrote the script to WWDECLINE people in the first play. As far as im concerned you should have no input in this Topic. I may have done an inapropiate thing to another Bot, But atleast i did not Rip the hard work other people put into making scripts. and i know this is right because after me and tweek confronted you about ripping his work, you cried and ran off like a baby and hid for a month. Then you come back and denie the whole thing. I can put up with spammers. Because i have done it and it does not harm much. Rippers on the other hand are people with no moral fiber at all. I do not know how a person can honestly take someones work and then turn around and LIE about making it themselves. It disgusts me as well as many people in this forum, on fnfall's irc, and around the world. This is why i hate you, this is why i dont talk to you in IRC. You are an annoying little twit with all your "snip why do you hate me" crap that i got 2 months ago. I have tried to become friends with you again, but once again i saw that you are a miserable jerk that puts anyone down who you think is not as smart as you. And to be honest, You are no more smart then the people in a core math class.
And to the people that are going to reply with "USE PARAGRAPHS" and such, I do not care. when I get into a mode of pure hate i could care less about grammar and paragraphs.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189183 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 14:09 |
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Okay, this is how I see things:
snip is banned from XWIS.
snip is complaining to Crimson.
snip was not banned by Renguard.
snip is now complaining that he got banned because he spammed a bot, because bots aren't allowed on XWIS.
snip: if you think that this is so unfair, why don't you just go and make your own WOL server? Strike-Team can ban whomever the hell they want to ban for any offence that they deem innnapropriate.
w00t?
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189188 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 14:23 |
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you fucked up your quotes and yes I saw that you apologised and for that I give you credit (perhaps I should have mentioned that in the first post). However that doesn't change my opinion of the situation. And yes you have delt with me, way back when fnfall was hosting RS irc for me and Opty. I'll leave it at that since it really doesn't matter any more. Btw, just so were clear. I chose to judge and group fnfall just like you did Renguard and it's users.
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when I get into a mode of pure hate i could care less about grammar and paragraphs.
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that is classic
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189192 is a reply to message #189183] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 14:33 |
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| rm5248 wrote on Thu, 09 February 2006 16:09 |
Okay, this is how I see things:
snip is banned from XWIS.
snip is complaining to Crimson.
snip was not banned by Renguard.
snip is now complaining that he got banned because he spammed a bot, because bots aren't allowed on XWIS.
snip: if you think that this is so unfair, why don't you just go and make your own WOL server? Strike-Team can ban whomever the hell they want to ban for any offence that they deem innnapropriate.
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I never complained that i got banned for spamming a BOT and not a server, all i did was state that it was a bot. And no i do not think the punishment is unfair, as i have stated that in earlier posts. and i never complained to crimson about anything. So basically what you have noticed is wrong except for "snip was not banned by renguard."
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189209 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 15:52 |
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Ok so not to knock on anybody, or to defend, but get this straight.
Are bots allowed in xwis or not? And your bot crimson, was that on there because you could have it on there, but none of us can have one on there?
And before yall start doggin fnfall servers, yall should know what your talking about. Hell he was one of the first servers on here, that was strong then and is still strong now. Fnfall's a good man, don't let a few of his "past" mods ruin his good name, because of what you supposively heard.
For snip, I don't agree with him spamming a bot. But was that bot supposed to be there in the first place. Or is that something you were running for xwis?
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189210 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 15:55 |
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The bot wasn't mine -- I do not nor have never had a bot on XWIS. The bot belongs to the xphaze servers.
We are currently revising the rules regarding bots, so I can't give you a direct answer at the moment.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189229 is a reply to message #188562] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 17:31 |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Mon, 06 February 2006 01:23 |
So who is he again?
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lol I think Aircraftkiller is one step ahead of us with regards to forgetting him.
And why does he say Renguard has ruined the game?
All its done is help the game. heck if it weren't for Renguard, Renegade probaly wouldn't have on line anymore. Besides the only reason I don't use it is because It strangely Freezes my computer when it starts up.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189233 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 18:05 |
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Just for those of you who will say "who the hell is this guy", I'm Fred, and went by KoTPaine for .. oh, the last 10 years. I have been away due to family issues, including my wife having a tumor (cyst) in her brain (yeah, it was benign, and she is fine now).
So for the flamers out there who have a bandwagon mentality and feel the need to say something they percieve to be clever, bear in mind that I could care less, I have bigger fish to fry.
I just have a couple things to say on the subject, so here goes;
If he is a mod on several servers, then he may well be respected -- But to take your frustration out on Crimson or the XWIS team is;
1. Misguided, since EA obviously saw fit to pass the torch to a third party.
This is just the final insult, imo. Renegade was given @#$% support from day one. I was fortunate enough to have played the beta (thanks to Dr. Evil -- You know who you are)..
I was fortunate enough also to be invited to the Renegade launch even here in San Jose, and at the dinner we had with all the Westwood guys (Chris, Cliff, Amy, and several others), they were espousing how easily creating "mods" would be with the tools they would be providing (that should give everyone a laugh), and they lauded a supposed "Dune" mod that was being worked on already (hmm, more vaporware BS). I can't really fault them, as they had a job to do, but EA obviously could not see fit to provide a decent budget or level of support after slow sales (even as preliminary renders, etc were being done for a sequel), thus dooming Command & Conquer to a "RTS-ONLY" future. I think they were excited when we were told all this, and although two of the guys at Westwood (whom I was closest to) would not say so for fear that it would come back to haunt them, EA giving up on C&C as a FPS game was a bitter disappointment.
Now, I digress a bit too much.
2. Immature. DDoS, hacks and exploits are never the way to acceptably express dissent or dissatisfaction -- I have been the victim of such actions too, and in the end, the community lost, as I lost my cool and did/said things that I surely would never have done in a more lucid moment.
3. Wrong. RenGuard isn't the problem -- Although I prefer not to use it (it increases my ping times enough to noticably affect my gameplay experience), but EA dropped the ball here too. What we needed from day one was something along the lines of "Punk-Buster", and had they saw fit, they could have moved things along.. After all, it's only a matter of time with ANY game that people will try to win unfairly, use exploits, aimbots, or hacks (like Big Head or the Fire-Repair hack).
I simply just use RenGuard on servers that require it, but not on the servers that do not require it.
The fact is that these folks (many) pay BIG BUCKS to provide us players with a host. A server to play on for FREE. Respect their rules -- If not, don't go away mad, just go away.
It's not a life-changing decision to NOT act out like an insolent child, but in the end folks within the community (as in everyday life) will judge you for your actions, so when you act in a less than mature manner, it's much harder to take the complaints (justified or not) seriously.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189248 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 19:59 |
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Crimson,
Well after glancing through these forums since I was active in a topic on here a month or two ago. Snip informed me that he was banned from Renegade for spamming a bot. This may be repetitive but I still want to put a few things out here for everyone to consider. Keep in mind snip is a friend of mine and I have known him for quite a long time, he is a great friend who I have been through a lot with. None of that does in fact effect the following points I am suggesting to you though;
#1. He did something that was against the rules, may I ask where exactly these rules are displayed in Renegade for everyone to view?
#2. He has apologized for his actions and as well as a few others brought up a very vital point, he was banned for spamming a bot on Renegade. Last I checked bots weren't allowed on Renegade so wouldn't that mean that the XpHaze Owner/Owners (I don't know how their system works as I do not play there) should be banned to?
#3. He was in fact in the wrong with his actions but by banning him for doing something wrong it seems to me as if XPHaze should suffer the same consequences as they did something wrong as well.
#4. Naturally when people find out that one of their friends has been banned from Renegade they are going to come to the forums read the topic and support their friend. As for whomever posted about direct connecting to servers, many servers on Renegade have a block that will not allow people to direct connect to them.
Just keep in mind that by not using the direct connect method to play he is obeying his ban completely. I am asking the same thing as pujols that you look at your rules and regulations that are set up in order to make Renegade a great game to play (which it always has been from the start). Who I am doesn't matter I could care less how many of you know me and don't know me. I play this game for fun and oftentimes enjoyed playing with snip; He has made it clear he understands that his actions were in the wrong, as well as apologizing for those actions.
I just personally believe that everyone deserves a second chance, this is a policy I have always saw as an effective way of finding out who those people are that you can really trust. Everyone makes mistakes, the honest ones are the ones who realize those mistakes and accept that what they did was wrong. If it is true that you in-fact unbanned all of the people who ruined the actual game by cheating it seems to me as if spamming a bot that shouldn't have been their in the first place giving you a ban that would never be lifted is outrageous. Thanks for your time and please take the time to read my entire post as I have tried to cover everything in one post.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189252 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 20:11 |
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snipgod9
snip
stalker
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And additionally, allow me to add "ECXian"
What do they have in common?
All of these names have been banned at one point or another (I may have missed some or accidentally included some) from #renalert for excessive cheating references, advertising pro-cheating sites, being a general douchebag, etc.etc.
Just for the record.
In fact --for a while-- I had a remote set up called (I believe) !xian such that if he came back under a similar name on another IP or somebody unbanned him, any user in the channel could invoke a kick in my absence.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189253 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 20:24 |
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Let me ask you this. Where the hell is #renalert. I have never seen or heard of such a channel.
Second, ECBot is my IRC bot and has only been on irc.n00bstories.com at one point when my irc went down, other than that it has never left irc.ltroush.com/irc.fnfall.com.
third, I have never used a nick called ECXian...nor is it registered on ren.
fourth if this is in an irc server and not ren, i only use the nicks snip,Xian,y0da0.
Fifth, The Xian on Xphaze and me (the xian on ltroush) are two different people.
And finally show some logs of "me" doing this, and include timestamps, channels, and irc server. I think i smell a liar.
[EDIT] oh and let me also add, if you had read the entire topic you would have noticed me saying that a person by the name of Acolyte has made it his life in trying to ruin my names. If it is him then it explains alot. Please post the host of the person that is banned from that channel. I am from New Jersey and know the host of people that live around me. So please provide me with the host of the person and the irc server. If you cannot do that than i know you are lieing. (keep in mind i want the whole host, including nickname and username.)
also how much do you want to bet he copied those names from my first post?
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189256 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 20:56 |
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Oh, chrono, let me see this so called "script" with the command !xian...lmao. You just showed that your an idiot by copying and pasting the list of names that was in my first post.
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Thu, 09 February 2006 20:58 |
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This guy snipgod is a good friend of mine, and i asure you he does not cheat nor has he advertized any cheats. If this was to happen not only would he loose my friendship he would loose his spot in esow thanks.
beselli,
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189259 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 21:03 |
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it makes him an idiot because its so much of a coincidence that all my RENEGADE names are on the list, and only my renegade names, except for ECXian i dont know where he pulled that one from. Dont you find it odd that the only names on the list are the ones i posted? how much do you want to bet if i had posted my past names from WOL that they would be on the list too.
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