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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #188942 is a reply to message #188873] |
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I played today a bit and I must say it was great 
(then again, I was the one in the orca  )
edit: (read m1a1_abrams' post)
The problem with apaches in my opinion is usually the fact that you can shoot straight forward with the minigun. When an orca and an apache are both as high as they can, the orca can shoot the apache no matter what it's facing, however the apache can't shoot the orca if it's not going away from it or facing the opposite direction.
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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #188944 is a reply to message #188873] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 10:54 |
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I have a question btw... does this armour change the points given for shooting light vehicles with snipers? I was under the impression that the problem was the warhead. Also, even if it does change the amount of points given for hitting say an Orca, surely it's not going to change the amount for hitting say a Light Tank?
And what about other problem weapons like the APC gun?
Edit: I'm pretty sure the Orca has a longer range, try it out in a LAN game. I just did and if I buy both aircraft and try shooting a tank from various ranges, the Orca can hit from further away.
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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #188956 is a reply to message #188877] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 13:54 |
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| PackHunter wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 01:36 |
How the hell should we get orca's down then? :S The only thing an orca has to fear are snipers. You just made them invincible... Or mrls that stand on the other side of the map for that matter. And you don't need a buggy with medium armor because they have invented the apc for that purpose. I think this is a bad idea!
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Question : How exactly does a sniper take down copters and such? Yes, the question is on the newb-level.
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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #188963 is a reply to message #188952] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 14:19 |
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| xtaro wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 13:59 |
I have seen the armour increase on the buggies and aircraft and it does even out the field, BUT whats the point of making the aircraft pilots feel invincible? Every unit has a weakness, a drawback that makes it fun to use. With little/no fear of sniper retribution, and no fear of other vehicles, as all but the most n00bish can avoid a slow moving shell, the aircraft becomes premier camping vehicle.
Also... Do any of you relize how fun it is to snipe a transport out of the sky and watch the little noddies plop on the ground, or better yet, shoot one dead as he falls?
Dont take that away from us.
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USE A PIC/RAV...trust me...a pic or rav will do even more damage than a Havoc will without the armor increase... 
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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #188969 is a reply to message #188873] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 14:52 |
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Yeah, the orca definately has a better range of an apache. The apache can barely reach the corner of the WF when on the side, meanwhile the orca can reach the entrance of the Nod ref entrance about(From the strip side..). But you could say the same for Nod infantry vs GDI in that Nod's is severly weaker
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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #188984 is a reply to message #188927] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 16:04 |
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| TD wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 11:17 |
| Terminator 101 wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 16:38 |
For past few days I have seen many noobs who shoot at my light tank with ramjet rife, which is waste of ammo, and pointless. Don't you think so?
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Pointwh0res do this. Just stay in a corner and shoot vehicles with health bar in green with your uberjet. Then go back to refill, and back to your position again. How 1337.
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| Crimson wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 11:20 |
Regarding that, the points received for doing that are proportionately too high. That's why they do it.
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Wow, seriously? Is is going to be fixed in CP2  ?
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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #188991 is a reply to message #188988] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 16:40 |
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| Goztow wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 18:25 |
I wonder how people would like it on a server smaller than 40 players... (taking in consideration that ren was never made to be played with that much players, really :-S)
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I agree, full 40 slot servers have nothing to do with Renegade anymore. But if you are going to host one, I guess hacks like these do actually make it more playable. I could just fly over to a group of snipers and take a few out and still get away with it. It actually was kinda fun. On a normal 20 slot server though, I don't know. With just one or 2 snipers shooting at you, I think you can get away with practically anything. Especially when you take a hotty with you and stop and repair.
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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #189005 is a reply to message #188873] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 18:23 |
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PICs and Railguns. And Laser Chainguns, for that matter (especially Laser Chainguns). Not to mention the guns on Hummers, Buggies, and APCs. And let's not forget Rocket Launchers, if you know how to shoot (one would hope).
Stop complaining about n00bjets getting the nerfbat against air vehicles. They're a crutch. Use something else and you'll quickly realize that you didn't really need them in the first place.
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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #189021 is a reply to message #188873] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 19:19 |
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I played for a couple of hours tonight and it was fun. It does change some tactics though.
For instance, on most base defense maps, a buggy/humvee can now penetrate the base.
Also, there is no message telling players about the changes (like they would read it anyway heh), so some people were confused.
on hourglass I got a buggy and someone said "wtf are you going to do with a BUGGY??", and I said "watch", and I managed to get to the base of the AGT, and they were like "wtf hax?" lol
It was indeed nice to be able to drive a buggy and humvee for more than a few seconds, and my Orca still got n00bjetted from the sky, so they defnitely aren't invincible
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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #189036 is a reply to message #188873] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 20:15 |
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since the orca and apache are much faster than most unit(perhaps all?) in the game, i think the weak armor was better. The weapons power isn't that bad either. 
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| Re: Little "trial" on n00bstories servers - might be of general interest [message #189127 is a reply to message #188988] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 09:39 |
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| Goztow wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 16:25 |
I wonder how people would like it on a server smaller than 40 players... (taking in consideration that ren was never made to be played with that much players, really :-S)
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Considering when the game first game out, Westwood ran 3 or 4 40 player servers, I would say it WAS in fact made for that many players.
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