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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184217 is a reply to message #184210]

Fri, 30 December 2005 19:13

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Sniper_De7 wrote on Sat, 31 December 2005 14:34

When you're playing a moderator is going to look at if you're using RG first.

Not on a lot of servers I play on.

Sniper_De7 wrote on Sat, 31 December 2005 14:34

If you "fail" that part of the test he'll move onto the next, which would be testing you. Next would be screenshots. Get it?

Thats step 1, not step 2.

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The fact remains there is no real reason to not use RG unless you have a problem with it and you can't install. (Which, like i said, you COULD ask for help..) At least for forcerg i can be sure i can forcerg out a cheater when there isn't a mod to ban him.

So if I lag killed you and I wasn't running RG would you force me? Your jusification for "cheating" seems to be "gets a shot that looks weird" and "not running RenGuard". Thats a flawed assumption.

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If you guys can find a valid reason why not to install Renguard other than it doesn't work for you or somehow slows your computer down (i doubt it, what are the chances, especially when you probably run 50 programs in the background). Then I might see a reason why you'd be right to complain about being force rg'ed.

I'm not complaining about being forcerg'ed. I play in servers that don't require it, or in servers when the hosts and admins know who I am.

And are you 100% sure RenGuard can block Bighead? The current version of RG has a reliance that means, in theory, someone with enough skills and the correct code could use Bighead and RenGuard at the same time, and RG would declare them to be clean.

I'm not going to tell you how, or attempt it because i'm not a cheat, nor do I encourage them, but Crimson knows about the possibility and it should be fixed when 1.04 comes out.

Please try and follow this logic:

Player + RenGuard = Can Cheat (harder to do I admit, but definately possible)
Player + No RenGuard = Can Cheat (easily)

Therefore:

Me + RenGuard = Could cheat
Me + No RenGuard = Could cheat

If I could cheat with it, and cheat without it, then why bother to install it at all if all it does is convice the odd player who believes it's 100% that i'm cheat-free? (Ok, it's a gesture of good faith)

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		The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Fri, 30 December 2005 02:29
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 09:13
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Jecht on Fri, 30 December 2005 09:38
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: cmatt42 on Fri, 30 December 2005 09:53
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: hunteroo2 on Fri, 30 December 2005 12:44
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Fri, 30 December 2005 11:43
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Fri, 30 December 2005 13:41
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 14:27
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Fri, 30 December 2005 15:05
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: mision08 on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:08
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Xpert on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:12
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Ma1kel on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:13
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Xpert on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:19
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:27
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:32
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Ma1kel on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:23
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SuperTech on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:55
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:05
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:27
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:33
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:42
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:46
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:59
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:00
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:05
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:11
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:34
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:42
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:08
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:13
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 20:13
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:21
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: warranto on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:46
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:47
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:50
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: warranto on Fri, 30 December 2005 23:23
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Xpert on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:59
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: NeWbSh0T on Fri, 30 December 2005 20:06
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Aircraftkiller on Fri, 30 December 2005 20:20
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Crimson on Fri, 30 December 2005 20:24
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Fri, 30 December 2005 21:00
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Xpert on Fri, 30 December 2005 22:40
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Fri, 30 December 2005 23:28
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Sat, 31 December 2005 00:55
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Sat, 31 December 2005 12:24
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: almor999 on Sat, 31 December 2005 12:33
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Sat, 31 December 2005 14:19
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Areilius on Tue, 03 January 2006 06:55
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Sat, 31 December 2005 14:36
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: ben5015se on Sat, 31 December 2005 15:42
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Sat, 31 December 2005 16:26
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Sat, 31 December 2005 19:15
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Sun, 01 January 2006 10:07
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Crimson on Sat, 31 December 2005 03:12
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Sat, 31 December 2005 03:42
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: warranto on Sat, 31 December 2005 09:49
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Sat, 31 December 2005 11:37
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Sat, 31 December 2005 12:02
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Sat, 31 December 2005 06:55
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: cmatt42 on Sat, 31 December 2005 08:05
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Crimson on Sat, 31 December 2005 10:42
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Crimson on Sat, 31 December 2005 19:36
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: cmatt42 on Sat, 31 December 2005 20:53
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: NeWbSh0T on Sun, 01 January 2006 10:32
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: cmatt42 on Sun, 01 January 2006 20:17
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Mon, 02 January 2006 06:09
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Aircraftkiller on Sun, 01 January 2006 11:36
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Goztow on Sun, 01 January 2006 12:50
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Sun, 01 January 2006 14:22
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Aircraftkiller on Sun, 01 January 2006 14:49
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Sun, 01 January 2006 15:06
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Sun, 01 January 2006 15:29
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Mon, 02 January 2006 06:24
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Mon, 02 January 2006 07:08
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Mon, 02 January 2006 12:27
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Mon, 02 January 2006 15:41
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Dan on Mon, 02 January 2006 13:39
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Mon, 02 January 2006 16:25
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Dave Mason on Mon, 02 January 2006 16:38
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Dave Mason on Mon, 02 January 2006 16:01
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Dan on Mon, 02 January 2006 16:50
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Mon, 02 January 2006 19:11
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Mon, 02 January 2006 19:33
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: PaRaDoX on Mon, 02 January 2006 20:05
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Goztow on Tue, 03 January 2006 00:33
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: HTGunny on Thu, 05 January 2006 02:24
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Fri, 13 January 2006 08:20
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Dave Mason on Fri, 13 January 2006 11:51

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