Renegade video card problem [message #181895] |
Sat, 10 December 2005 14:28 |
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Goztow
Messages: 9738 Registered: March 2005 Location: Belgium
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A friend of mine has a problem. He used to have a 32 MB RAM vid card which was pretty crappy . He now updated his whole computer to this:
P4. 2.4 ghz
768 memory
128 MB GFX card, GeForce FX 5600 (now updated to Geforce FX 5700 256 MB gfx card but still same problem)
+ A new motherbord
Battlefield 2 runs great on high details. Renegade still gives him around 30 FPS =/ on low details. He sees no real difference between his old card and this new. He already tried reinstalling Renegade once again.
Would he need to change registry settings or something before reinstalling?
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[Updated on: Sat, 10 December 2005 15:13] Report message to a moderator
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Re: Renegade video card problem [message #182058 is a reply to message #181895] |
Mon, 12 December 2005 00:50 |
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Goztow
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Some more info maybe as this doesn't reply.
1. He had his 32 MB-card. He gets a new one (up to 256 MB). So people tell me it's normal there is no difference at all? Even if the 5-series aren't all that good, it should run Renegade fine (my 5700 go in my laptop runs it fine with 64 MB)
2. He can run other games, like BF2 correctly.
3. He did try putting all details on lowest.
4. Yes, he did install the latest drivers but maybe that is the problem?
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Re: Renegade video card problem [message #182114 is a reply to message #182102] |
Tue, 13 December 2005 00:39 |
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Goztow
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Renx wrote on Mon, 12 December 2005 22:25 | You would not see a different in renegade between 128 and 256mb ram on a video card.
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Restart reading my posts.
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Re: Renegade video card problem [message #182121 is a reply to message #181895] |
Tue, 13 December 2005 05:22 |
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Goztow
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We tried it at 800*600, he is running no important processes (even put virus scanner off to try). Does it matter which video card series it is EXACTLY? refresh rate is the standard one (60 I guess), he didn't touch it.
What part of "he can run battlefield 2 smoothly" makes you think he has many processes and a super high resolution?
Amount of people: about 20, but with 10 he also gets major drops. It is a bit better though.
Tx for trying to help but nothing helpful in here yet. i know it's difficult to say, though...
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Re: Renegade video card problem [message #182172 is a reply to message #182127] |
Tue, 13 December 2005 13:02 |
JPNOD
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danpaul88 wrote on Tue, 13 December 2005 07:56 | dont forget gozy: BF2 is better at optimizing itself to run on older gfx cards than renegade is...
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ahum? You were saying? Bf2 doesn't even run on a Geforce 4 Ti series. It requires newer cards or cards since the ATI 8500 series.
As for the optimizing, if there is one game that needs good hardware it's bf2. There is so many problems with that game. Renegade does have it's crash issues but if you run it on low detail, that will prevent alot of crashing. It just doesn't look good and you don't see bullets and stuff, makeing the game harder for me imo. You can run Renegade on almost ANY Onboard card there is.. I'm not even talking of add-on card's PCI/AGP/PCI express because they will most likely all work. I started playing Renegade on a 8MB i752onboard intel chip.. and it would give me 10-30 fps with a celeron @1100.
As for the problem. Did he install the new mobo, and after that a fresh reinstall with all win updates. Or did he installed the mobo on the same os? Alot of other things can be the problem here.
More detailed info on the hardware plz. Especialy on Power supply the volt it gives trough output and which brand.. but I doub't this is the problem. I think it has more something to do with the driver/software combo. Since BF2 works fine?.
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Re: Renegade video card problem [message #182242 is a reply to message #181895] |
Wed, 14 December 2005 06:23 |
JPNOD
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Is the p4 2,4 GHZ a pentium 4C? or A version?
And this ''30 fps'' does this count for a 1 player game, with no bots. Or does it start over 8 players.
Let's say if he get's 30 fps on low detail with a p4A 2,4 in a 32 player game. That's really not bad at all.
You will probably ask what has this got to do with it. Well, Renegade = CPU dependant and let's say if you would run Renegade with a CeleronC@3Ghz with a GTX7800 you would still get to 30 fps in a single player bot map :s
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Re: Renegade video card problem [message #182263 is a reply to message #182262] |
Wed, 14 December 2005 10:26 |
JPNOD
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Not really.. just look at the suport list bf2 has.
Then take a look which Renegade support.
You can run doom3 or counterstrike course with a rivatnt2 because the people actually worked on the game for a LONG time thats why it even runs on slower systems. and decent. And if you look at that in this way. Then Renegade isn't that bad eaither seeing that it runs on REALLY slow systems.
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Re: Renegade video card problem [message #182315 is a reply to message #181895] |
Thu, 15 December 2005 07:09 |
JPNOD
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Then it's not that bad if it's under 10 like 75 FPS. unless a flame rush or when hes in the field. This ofcourse if the Pentium 4 is a P4A 400FSB with 512cache on socket 478. It's probably one of the first Northwood's p4's you can pretty much compare it with a Celeron Sk478 400FSB and 128 cache @2.8, Though the p4A400fsb will do much better..
Now BF2 runs fine.. well, thats because BF2 is more Gfx card dependant ofcourse a combo of both is best. This to depends on how many players are ingame. ( I doubt it will run fine with 64 players.)
If this isn't the situation and he has a P4C 800FSB with 512cach/or1mb at 2,4GHz then it's a different story because that's a CPU that easily matches up with a AXP3000+ so he should be able to get 75+ fps till like 12 players minimal.
See it like this.. if it's the p4A like I stated first. Then it's running behind the new mobo and gFX therefor you can't get the max out of the pc.
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