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heres somthing [message #180939] Wed, 30 November 2005 21:49 Go to next message
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ok why is the U.S. in iraq neway .at first it was because they had weapons of mass destruction, but did they find ne NO so why they still there
Re: heres somthing [message #180941 is a reply to message #180939] Wed, 30 November 2005 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, the "damage has been done" so to speak (no, that's not a subtle anti-war remark). They might as well finish what they started by leaving Iraq somewhere to start anew instead of leaving them in a mess.
Re: heres somthing [message #180942 is a reply to message #180939] Wed, 30 November 2005 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, just send in a bunch of mercenaries instead, they'll be handling the trouble their way. Wink

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Re: heres somthing [message #180948 is a reply to message #180939] Thu, 01 December 2005 02:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i heard in 2006 that Bush is planning for massive troop pullouts. This was from a local radio so I don't know if it's true or not.

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Re: heres somthing [message #180968 is a reply to message #180939] Thu, 01 December 2005 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i don think so didn't bush say that they were goin to pull out in like 5 years or somthing but not by 2006
Re: heres somthing [message #180971 is a reply to message #180939] Thu, 01 December 2005 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bush can only make them stay 3 more years, then it will be up to a different president.

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Re: heres somthing [message #180997 is a reply to message #180939] Thu, 01 December 2005 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gbull's right.
Re: heres somthing [message #181008 is a reply to message #180939] Thu, 01 December 2005 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As I understand, WMDs were the original idea.

But, since there are no WMDs there, we may as well continue to help stabilize the government. Well, YOU should, Canada thankfully never got into it.


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Re: heres somthing [message #181009 is a reply to message #180939] Thu, 01 December 2005 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bush has said we'll stay until the job is done.
The job could be done as early as next year, or it could be a bit longer. By most modern measurements of victory, though, Iraq has been and continues to be a resounding success, and signs for a bright and optimistic future are very apparent. This is in spite of how the anti-Bush media like to play up every little story about "insurgent" attacks while burying the good news in the back pages of the newspapers, not to mention accepting every allegation of "torture" and "abuse" as absolute truth and plastering more pictures of Abu Ghraib at every possible moment.

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We have been over this many times before; the war was waged for three main reasons: 1) Saddam's failure to fully disclose all weapons of mass destruction in accordance with the cease0fire ending the first Gulf War as well as numerous UN resolutions; 2) Saddam's harboring and giving aid and comfort to known international Islamic terrorist groups; and 3) to liberate the oppressed Iraqi people from a brutal dictator that has a long history of torturing his very own people.


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Re: heres somthing [message #181012 is a reply to message #180939] Thu, 01 December 2005 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How many Iraqi soldiers do we have fully trained and mobilized?

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Re: heres somthing [message #181036 is a reply to message #180939] Thu, 01 December 2005 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2000?

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Re: heres somthing [message #181045 is a reply to message #181036] Thu, 01 December 2005 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020429-9.h tml?

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Re: heres somthing [message #181086 is a reply to message #180939] Fri, 02 December 2005 02:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you make a mess, you need to clean it up Wink. This is not an anti-war message, i think the invasion was justified but now the US also need to (and do) take their responsability and stay until the mess they made (war is always messy) is cleaned up more or less.

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Re: heres somthing [message #181197 is a reply to message #180939] Fri, 02 December 2005 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yup, and that's exactly what we're doing; we're establishing a stable government of, by, and for the Iraqi people and training a military of Iraqis for their own personal protection so that they can take over when we do leave.
A large amount of the progress we have made thus far in the Iraq war has been eloquently summed up by none other than Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman in an op-ed article for the Wall Street Journal. It's rather long, but it is well worth the read.


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Re: heres somthing [message #181502 is a reply to message #180939] Tue, 06 December 2005 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just so everyone has a chance to read this:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display .jsp?vnu_content_id=1001614034

Some comments from Iraqi Vice President Ghazi al-Yawer.


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Re: heres somthing [message #181505 is a reply to message #180939] Tue, 06 December 2005 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thats to bad that they can't see each other as "Iraqis" rather than Shiites or Sunnis.

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Re: heres somthing [message #181541 is a reply to message #180939] Tue, 06 December 2005 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Too bad George Bush can't tell the truth.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Re: heres somthing [message #181556 is a reply to message #180939] Tue, 06 December 2005 18:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He didn't know the truth himself you twit.

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Re: heres somthing [message #181594 is a reply to message #180939] Wed, 07 December 2005 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Um...

George Bush didn't know Iraq was going poorly? BTW, I wasn't talking about WMDs, or rather the lack thereof, here.

But while we're on the topic, how do you think George Bush managed to lead the country to war based entirely on lies? Was it really not his fault at all?


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"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Re: heres somthing [message #181604 is a reply to message #180939] Wed, 07 December 2005 07:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One of my friends just became a Marine and he's leaving in February for a 14-month deployment in Fallujah. He's actually lucky because he'll be working with the computer network there and be in 72-degrees F all day.

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Re: heres somthing [message #181606 is a reply to message #181594] Wed, 07 December 2005 08:35 Go to previous message
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SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Wed, 07 December 2005 06:36

Um...

George Bush didn't know Iraq was going poorly? BTW, I wasn't talking about WMDs, or rather the lack thereof, here.

But while we're on the topic, how do you think George Bush managed to lead the country to war based entirely on lies? Was it really not his fault at all?



I thought you were referring to the WMDs.


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