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Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? [message #179713 is a reply to message #179529]

Fri, 18 November 2005 17:21

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Javaxcx wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 12:55

I don't think the point is as much that it was being used as it was REPORTED that it wasn't being used offensively, which turned out to be false.

And whose fault is that, the U.S. government's, or the media's?

This is just conjecture, but the reason the military didn't tell the public it was using white phosphorous probably is because the public isn't widely educated about the use of white phosphorous as a conventional weapon, so it would be easy for the media to spin the story, making it look like the United States is using chemical weapons. In response, Congress restricts the military from using white phosphorous, thus depriving the military from a useful conventional weapon.

Plus, the public doesn't need to know everything the military does and everything it uses to fight our enemies. Should we be afraid we aren't giving the enemy a fair fight? Of course not. This is war; the military exists to win wars and kill our enemies. The more we tie the military's hands, the harder it is for it to win our wars.

And before the Geneva Convention comes up, wasn't it created in the first place with the idea that both sides would adhere to its rules so both sides' POWs would be treated humanely? Even if the terrorists were addressed in some article of the Convention, they have already violated many provisions of it, from torturing prisoners to beheading hostages. They're not following the same rules of war that we are, so it is useless to say that we'll only make them more mad if we break a few GC rules. They won't stop beheading hostages even if we let all the detainees in Guantanamo Bay go. They're out to win this war at any cost, and they'll fight dirty if they have to. Our refusal to meet them likewise is only a weakness that will seriously hinder our ability to win.

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		United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: warranto on Wed, 16 November 2005 18:52
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Aurora on Wed, 16 November 2005 18:53
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Jecht on Wed, 16 November 2005 18:59
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: cheesesoda on Wed, 16 November 2005 19:05
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: glyde51 on Thu, 01 December 2005 11:00
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: warranto on Wed, 16 November 2005 19:09
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: cheesesoda on Wed, 16 November 2005 19:14
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: warranto on Wed, 16 November 2005 19:19
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: NeoSaber on Wed, 16 November 2005 19:33
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: cheesesoda on Wed, 16 November 2005 19:24
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: warranto on Wed, 16 November 2005 21:13
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: NukeIt15 on Thu, 17 November 2005 00:17
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: warranto on Thu, 17 November 2005 07:58
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Javaxcx on Thu, 17 November 2005 10:55
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: runewood on Fri, 18 November 2005 15:12
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Hydra on Fri, 18 November 2005 17:21
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Javaxcx on Fri, 18 November 2005 19:28
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: cheesesoda on Fri, 18 November 2005 17:36
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Chronojam on Mon, 21 November 2005 03:28
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: runewood on Tue, 22 November 2005 12:34
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Chronojam on Mon, 28 November 2005 00:40
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: sterps on Wed, 23 November 2005 14:18
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Jecht on Thu, 01 December 2005 11:06
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		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Javaxcx on Fri, 02 December 2005 17:36
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		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: warranto on Fri, 02 December 2005 17:28
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: NeoSaber on Fri, 02 December 2005 17:55
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: warranto on Sat, 03 December 2005 02:23
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		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Javaxcx on Sat, 03 December 2005 08:03
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: PhantomScope on Fri, 02 December 2005 17:53
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: glyde51 on Fri, 02 December 2005 18:31
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Jecht on Fri, 02 December 2005 19:14
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: glyde51 on Fri, 02 December 2005 19:49
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: Hydra on Fri, 02 December 2005 21:20
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: glyde51 on Fri, 02 December 2005 21:43
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: PhantomScope on Sat, 03 December 2005 04:32
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		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: warranto on Sat, 03 December 2005 16:00
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: NeoSaber on Sat, 03 December 2005 17:54
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: warranto on Sat, 03 December 2005 19:54
		Re: United States using chemical weapons in Iraq? By: NeoSaber on Sat, 03 December 2005 20:31
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