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wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #178500] Wed, 09 November 2005 03:06 Go to next message
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http://www2.ati.com/multimedia/radeonx1k/ATI-Demo-ToyShop-v1 .1.zip

this is the hd version the dinkey play over the net one sux

i think ATI one-upped Nvidia


Btw i am not affiliated with ati im just touting a great product


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Re: Holy Hell Didja see the new ati toyshop demo? [message #179167 is a reply to message #178500] Mon, 14 November 2005 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That demo does show the power of the x1800 at work. It is well done. ATi has really improved in their imaging technology over the past year.

But overall, nVidia takes the year 2005 crown. Even though ATi has more technologically advanced cards, nVidia's quick realeases of the 7800 series and their SLI multi-gpu technology have delt bad blows to ATi. Due to the technological research, ATi had to delay the Crossfire multi-gpu technlology about 6 months and their next-gen cards also had a significant delay in their releases. Sorry to be off-topic on this last part but i believe this should have in impact on which graphics card you want to buy. Rocked Over

BTW, if u guys think that im a nVidia fanboy, ive been using ATi graphics cards for the past 3 years. I currently own a X700 pro and i will continue using ATi. I never had any problems using their products. Razz


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Re: Holy Hell Didja see the new ati toyshop demo? [message #179223 is a reply to message #179167] Mon, 14 November 2005 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mmh i have the nvidia 6800 gt and im thinking of going up to twin 7800 gtx on amd board or a x1800 xt crossfire setup on amd

{def amd board with a fx53-57 cpu}

but given all the reviews about nvidia and ati i still cant decide..plus i wanna wait a few months either for the radeons price to drop or for a 512 mb gtx *drools*

ps.. if yall give me enough money to buy both setups ill test the living bejesus outta em and give unbiased accurate reviews.plus give the loser [still a potent machine] away to one of yall...25 bux entry fee.... Big Grin



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Re: Holy Hell Didja see the new ati toyshop demo? [message #179418 is a reply to message #178500] Wed, 16 November 2005 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"quote by: xtaro"


mmh i have the nvidia 6800 gt and im thinking of going up to twin 7800 gtx on amd board or a x1800 xt crossfire setup on amd

{def amd board with a fx53-57 cpu}

but given all the reviews about nvidia and ati i still cant decide..plus i wanna wait a few months either for the radeons price to drop or for a 512 mb gtx *drools*

ps.. if yall give me enough money to buy both setups ill test the living bejesus outta em and give unbiased accurate reviews.plus give the loser [still a potent machine] away to one of yall...25 bux entry fee.... Big Grin


I dont belive you about the contest. Rolling Eyes

Since you are planning to get a AMD FX CPU, go for the FX-55, you can easily overclock it to FX-57 easily and you will save a good amount of money by doing that. Just make sure you get a good air or water cooling setup for it. Thumbs Up

I also agree about the nVidia and ATi reviews as well. But from what I see from them, a single X1800 XT can take on a SLI system.
I would rather wait a few months and get the X1800 XT or maybe its R580. (which possibly be named the X1800 XT-PE or the X1850)

And you wont belive how much the new 7800 GTX card is... about $700, get ready to pay up. Big Grin

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Re: Holy Hell Didja see the new ati toyshop demo? [message #179482 is a reply to message #178500] Wed, 16 November 2005 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oh if yall would be kind enough to let me test sli vs crossfire systems i would gladly give the lower performing sys away free.

imagine $1400 worth of nvidia goodness.. mmmmm

EDIT. i figure maybe $435 for gtx [x2 for sli] $200 for decent mobo
$850 for a fx55
$600 for a radeon x1800 [srry no crossfire till ati releases master cards] $200 mobo and $850 fx55

i can supply 2 gb 2.5 4 4 8 ram for test purposes only, winner responsible for ram. [u will never need 2 gb unless u running photoshop type app]

since tests include no sound there is no reason to buy a sound card, although it is recomended that you do buy a decent quality card if you win, tinny gunshots and crackley explosions sux.



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Re: wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #179518 is a reply to message #178500] Thu, 17 November 2005 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is no CrossFire it went down the drain, although ATI's new 1800XT has high specs i would much rather the Nividia 7800GTX 512, Being because the NV has 24 Pipelines whilst the ATI only has 16.. maybe this will change with the 1850XT but at this current moment in time NV will be the best card for performace by a mile!

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Re: wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #179603 is a reply to message #178500] Thu, 17 November 2005 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Really good motherboards don't have to cost $200, check your prices. One of the best for SLi and gaming is around $150.
Re: wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #179606 is a reply to message #179518] Thu, 17 November 2005 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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caveman wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 09:16

There is no CrossFire it went down the drain, although ATI's new 1800XT has high specs i would much rather the Nividia 7800GTX 512, Being because the NV has 24 Pipelines whilst the ATI only has 16.. maybe this will change with the 1850XT but at this current moment in time NV will be the best card for performace by a mile!

There are crossfire cards and motherboards on sale, just looks for them instead of complaing about it.

BTW, Just because the 7800 GTX has more pixel Pipelines than a X1800 dosent mean its more powerful.

Here are some links to get the new 512 MB version of the GTX.. get ready to pay up. Rocked Over

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168141430 44

This one above will not be in stock until next week.
The one below is currently in stock.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-det ails.asp?EdpNo=1648399&Sku=E145-7812

This version of the GTX has higher core clock and memory speeds. The memory effective speed is rated at 1750 mhz(825 mhz using new samsung GDDR 3 K4J52324QC-BJ11 series rated at 900 mhz max) and the Core speed is rated at 580 mhz.

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Really good motherboards don't have to cost $200, check your prices. One of the best for SLi and gaming is around $150.


The Crossfire motherboards have just been realesed. Just wait for an extra month or two and the prices will drop just like any other new motherboard or graphics card(s). Thumbs Up




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Re: wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #179636 is a reply to message #178500] Fri, 18 November 2005 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BTW, Just because the 7800 GTX has more pixel Pipelines than a X1800 dosent mean its more powerful.

Here are some links to get the new 512 MB version of the GTX.. get ready to pay up


Lets think about this logically.. the more pipelines the better right being as it can transfer more data, If the ATI's 1800 only has 16 pipelines while the 7800GTX 512 has 24 and higher specs, meaning that it can transfer the data faster while transferring more at the same time.

Its like cars.. as in lets say you have a car that costs $200000 and a car that is 250000 ( 200k being ATI and 250k being NV)

The 200k only goes 160MPH while the 250k goes 210MPH which car is going to get you from A - B faster?

Its the same with the Pipelines on the card.


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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

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Re: wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #179711 is a reply to message #178500] Fri, 18 November 2005 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He's got a point. You can't say the X1800 is faster when everything you specify about the 7800GTX is faster. Sounds more like something an ATi fanboy would do.
Re: wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #179839 is a reply to message #178500] Sat, 19 November 2005 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did not say that The X1800 XT was faster. But the explaination from caveman is logically correct, if the price of the more expensive one would be more competitive to each other (around 225K). Its only about $100 dollar difference between the cards.

The technologies inside the card also infulences speed transfer of the pixel, and vertex pipelines. nVidia does a great job in of mixing this smoothly while ATi depends more on technological advances such as their new ringbus system and their 90nm process to compensate the lack of pipelines. This might be the main reason why ATi is losing their old customers to nVidia thus losing money. I do not know which card i will buy, but it will not have answers from both extremes of the spectrum (especally from reviews/previews pages). (sounds like politics Rocked Over)

I admit, Ive been bitchy about gfx cards. Next stop: AMD and Intel! Nervous





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Re: wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #179843 is a reply to message #178500] Sun, 20 November 2005 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AMD > Intel...
Re: wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #179853 is a reply to message #179843] Sun, 20 November 2005 02:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90 wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 20:34

AMD > Intel...


Desktops: AMD
Laptops: Intel (Pentium M)

I like either, depending on the situation, so I'm not a fanboy of either.


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I like AMD because it's better...
Re: wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #179870 is a reply to message #178500] Sun, 20 November 2005 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The technologies inside the card also infulences speed transfer of the pixel, and vertex pipelines. nVidia does a great job in of mixing this smoothly while ATi depends more on technological advances such as their new ringbus system and their 90nm process to compensate the lack of pipelines. This might be the main reason why ATi is losing their old customers to nVidia thus losing money. I do not know which card i will buy, but it will not have answers from both extremes of the spectrum (especally from reviews/previews pages). (sounds like politics


As to that yes i agree but i would still pay the extra $100 or whatever for the 78GTX for 2 reason one because its NV and two because overall it has the best spec for gaming ATM.

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icedog90 wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 20:34

AMD > Intel...



Desktops: AMD
Laptops: Intel (Pentium M)




I do think AMD is the better CPU for desktop computer though i will agree with Light about Intel M chip's in lappys.


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BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

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Re: wanna win a x1800radeon or 7800 gtx setup?? [message #179964 is a reply to message #178500] Mon, 21 November 2005 02:13 Go to previous message
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AMD has always had a better architecture.

Back when Intel were increasing clock speeds to make more sales, AMD focused on their architecture, achieveing the same performance at lower clock speeds.

Once Intel hit the ceiling on power/heat with the P4's, AMD just kept on going and overtook them. Heck, AMD are still 1 step ahead with their current cores.


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