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im curious if c&c fans have lost all hope of a renegade 2

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A game like it from the old Westwood employees, maybe, but not Renegade 2.

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maschief wrote on Sun, 06 November 2005 17:55

im curious if c&c fans have lost all hope of a renegade 2


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Renegade 2? No...

If anything close to to normal renegade will ever be made, it will probably renegade generals or something... Huh

But let's hope not...


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Re: Do you thank RENEGADE 2 will ever come out ? [message #178170 is a reply to message #178155] Sun, 06 November 2005 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renegade was considered a flop. So not likely.

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Oblivion165 wrote on Sun, 06 November 2005 20:33

Renegade was considered a flop. So not likely.




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newest game will be ra3 Big Ups
Re: Do you thank RENEGADE 2 will ever come out ? [message #178188 is a reply to message #178171] Sun, 06 November 2005 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bandie63 wrote on Sun, 06 November 2005 19:34

Oblivion165 wrote on Sun, 06 November 2005 20:33

Renegade was considered a flop. So not likely.




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It's true though. Renegade was the death of Westwood, quite literally.
Re: Do you thank RENEGADE 2 will ever come out ? [message #178191 is a reply to message #178155] Sun, 06 November 2005 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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too bad too, it is quite a good game. There will never be a second though.

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i thought ea was the death of westwood

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Directly, yes.

However, Westwood's quarterly report was less than desired (because the game didn't do as well as it should have), so EA cut their losses and closed them.
Re: Do you thank RENEGADE 2 will ever come out ? [message #178196 is a reply to message #178155] Sun, 06 November 2005 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RENEGADE 2 LOL.

Re: Do you thank RENEGADE 2 will ever come out ? [message #178207 is a reply to message #178155] Sun, 06 November 2005 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i dont know why renegade did bad its an awsome game of course most C&C games have been good but a new renegade would be pretty cool.
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Yes, but consider that Renegade was an entry into the most popular genre of computer action games, that being the First Person Shooter genre. It did have a number of issues from the start (though WW patched away most of them), and was not as graphically advanced as its contemporaries. Despite being quite a fun little game, Renegade just didn't deliver to the masses. Its primary appeal was to fans of the C&C series, and it did not draw many followers from outside that limited (but obsessively loyal) group. Ask around and see how many Ren players there are who never played another C&C game before picking up Ren...I doubt you'd find many.

Now, Renegade DID open up and reveal the potential of a first/third person perspective game based off an RTS- now we have games like World of Warcraft (MMORPG) and Starcraft Ghost (F/TPS) out and/or in the making. So all was not lost- publishers and developers DID see the potential of this type of game, and they ARE attempting to exploit it, with some great successes. It's a simple equation- RTS players love to see the world they command from the level of a single combatant. It makes the experience more personal, and a hell of a lot cooler.

Unfortunately, Renegade never reached that point. EA didn't give Westwood a second chance with Renegade...they really should have; I believe that if an expansion had been released, or a sequel with improved graphics and physics (and plot!), the idea really would have caught on. But, EA being a company that has really, really become really, really opposed to taking chances, they deep-sixed the whole operation instead, then went their own dumb way to milk out the franchise. Go figure.


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Re: Do you thank RENEGADE 2 will ever come out ? [message #178228 is a reply to message #178155] Mon, 07 November 2005 01:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sad Renegade 2 was cancelled a long time ago.
But at least they did start it.


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officialy, renegade 2 died and won't raise again. but modders try:) for example, one man from CnC Source and his team are tries to make such total conversion.

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Re: Do you thank RENEGADE 2 will ever come out ? [message #178290 is a reply to message #178155] Mon, 07 November 2005 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dont Get It renegade2 was under development off and on for a while it was even 80% complet until quote EA axed it.(or so i heard)

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It was never 80%, not even close Tell Me .

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Ryan3k wrote on Sun, 06 November 2005 22:22

RENEGADE 2 LOL.



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Dont Get It i wonder what the plot would of been like, ra style? or same old ts (or reg cnc)?
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Renegade was my first step into the CnC series.
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Belski wrote on Mon, 07 November 2005 17:56

Dont Get It i wonder what the plot would of been like, ra style? or same old ts (or reg cnc)?


It was going to be set in the Red Alert universe.


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It was between the RA and Tiberian universe I believe actually. It was going to show the rise of Nod or something to that effect.

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Yes, thanks to EA, Renegade 2 will never come out.
RIP Westwood.
Anyway, you can still find something called "Renegade 2: The Return to Jacob's Star" Big Grin Dont Get It in this list http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/1.html (the year of release is unknown of course)


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too bad though it wouldve been cool to have a sequel to renegade and i cant beleive it didn't catch on
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