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| Re: same old... [message #176897 is a reply to message #176865] |
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[RF]Adj
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I would like to see some reason as to how he was banned for "Attempting to use a really old non-working bypass. Goodbye." as I know him to be an honest gamer.
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| Re: same old... [message #176901 is a reply to message #176865] |
Sat, 29 October 2005 21:14 |
CrazyBastard
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Bypass renguard lmao, I know its possible but I wouldnt have the faintest idea how to do it. Not that I need to cheat, I get banned etc for just being so good...the only person who can put me to shame is slickbud...and do you think he cheats? I would like to see some proof that I cheat, and an explanation of the basis for the ban. I would have and will gladly submit to any cheat test at any time to prove my innocence. Hell I will even pay your $30 fee. I don't mean to acuse you guys of banning me just for trash talking - perhaps it was just a mixup with IP addresses, or something else (I really have no idea about RG or cheating).
I will share a little secret with you: I used the first version of final renegade in a game I hosted once, along time ago when I was a n00b, to test it out. Obviously things like fully-automatic mammoth tanks made the game lag worse than RG and hence I didnt use it again. Once I left that game I went into the HazTeam server without restarting ren...Obviously FR was still operating even though I had removed it from the data folder... I killed a mod in one hit and was like OMG! and left the server immediately after I realised it was still on. I didnt go back into the HT servers for a week or so, as I was scared shitless that I would be banned. Luckily, I wasn't so much as temp banned for it. From that day, I have NEVER used a cheat - not even for testing purposes.
At least I'm trying to run Renguard despite the greif it gives me...
irc://gde.n00bless.com:6667/crazy
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| Re: same old... [message #176913 is a reply to message #176897] |
Sat, 29 October 2005 23:10 |
ajz4221
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Adj wrote on Sat, 29 October 2005 23:58]I would like to see some reason as to how he was banned for "Attempting to use a really old non-working bypass. Goodbye." as I know him to be an honest gamer.
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I have the exact same feelings.
If he hacks, he would have been banned from any of my servers a long time ago.
I think this is complete B.S.
He lives over seas (where most hackers are obvously), maybe his IP "LOOKED" like that of a previous "renguard" hacker?
This makes no since to me what-so-ever...
Should be no reason to pay this "fee" anyways.
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| Re: same old... [message #176933 is a reply to message #176913] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 04:20 |
Jokah
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| ajz4221 wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 01:10 |
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Adj wrote on Sat, 29 October 2005 23:58]I would like to see some reason as to how he was banned for "Attempting to use a really old non-working bypass. Goodbye." as I know him to be an honest gamer.
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I have the exact same feelings.
If he hacks, he would have been banned from any of my servers a long time ago.
I think this is complete B.S.
He lives over seas (where most hackers are obvously), maybe his IP "LOOKED" like that of a previous "renguard" hacker?
This makes no since to me what-so-ever...
Should be no reason to pay this "fee" anyways.
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Rofl.
Sound Artist, DJ.
I am 52% addicted to Counterstrike. <a href="[url]http://seanism.com/addiction/cs.php What about you?
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| Re: same old... [message #176941 is a reply to message #176933] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 05:57 |
ajz4221
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| Jokah wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 06:20 |
| ajz4221 wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 01:10 |
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Adj wrote on Sat, 29 October 2005 23:58]I would like to see some reason as to how he was banned for "Attempting to use a really old non-working bypass. Goodbye." as I know him to be an honest gamer.
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I have the exact same feelings.
If he hacks, he would have been banned from any of my servers a long time ago.
I think this is complete B.S.
He lives over seas (where most hackers are obvously), maybe his IP "LOOKED" like that of a previous "renguard" hacker?
This makes no since to me what-so-ever...
Should be no reason to pay this "fee" anyways.
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Rofl.
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wouldn't be the first time it has happened.
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| Re: same old... [message #176943 is a reply to message #176865] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 06:05 |
[RF]Puppy
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You can get around renguard. I used a new name and went in using rengaurd and cheated, one hit kill. People tried to use force renguard on me and it said I was using renguard. They all got pissed and I just said, renguard is not unhackable you uber nubs. I don't cheat in games but I just wanted some people to know that renguard is not unhackable. This fee is stupid, renguard is stupid and I only use it so people stop bitching...
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| Re: same old... [message #176969 is a reply to message #176954] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 10:00 |
[RF]Puppy
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| rc22fires wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 11:08 |
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Puppy wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 08:05]You can get around renguard. I used a new name and went in using rengaurd and cheated, one hit kill. People tried to use force renguard on me and it said I was using renguard. They all got pissed and I just said, renguard is not unhackable you uber nubs. I don't cheat in games but I just wanted some people to know that renguard is not unhackable. This fee is stupid, renguard is stupid and I only use it so people stop bitching...
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Renguard is not as stupid as you.
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So how am I stupid, because I got around it?
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| Re: same old... [message #176970 is a reply to message #176969] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 10:16 |
Jokah
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Puppy wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 12:00]| rc22fires wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 11:08 |
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Puppy wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 08:05]You can get around renguard. I used a new name and went in using rengaurd and cheated, one hit kill. People tried to use force renguard on me and it said I was using renguard. They all got pissed and I just said, renguard is not unhackable you uber nubs. I don't cheat in games but I just wanted some people to know that renguard is not unhackable. This fee is stupid, renguard is stupid and I only use it so people stop bitching...
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Renguard is not as stupid as you.
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So how am I stupid, because I got around it?
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It's stupid to cheat.
Sound Artist, DJ.
I am 52% addicted to Counterstrike. <a href="[url]http://seanism.com/addiction/cs.php What about you?
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 Re: same old... [message #176971 is a reply to message #176865] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 10:39 |
DawGY
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ok now comes my 2 cents or more.
Im tired of you friggin loser RG mods/creators thinking that just becuz we dont have RG that we cheat, well we dont.
People that dont have RG r smart, and realize that RG sux balls.
90% of people that dont use RG hate it, and know that it is a pointless file that just takes up space on your computer, and the other 10% just dont know that it is out-there.
Now ive been playing Renegade since it was realesed, and was playing C&C games since the orignal Command and Conquer from Westwood. and never have i seen any game die becuz of some moronic people that think they can invent an Anti-Cheat. and yes, i used to be a RG user, but i deleted it after i got OVER 50 Viruses and 20 threats becuz of RG, and i checked, that all the files sources lead back to the RG data. so i was back to playing ren, the regular way, the way it should be played, RG free, and nobody using !forcerg PADawGY to kick me out of a game, so i only played where i knew there wasnt any RG stuff. But i got tired of playing with people that i couldnt have as much playing with as i could with my Grandpa, Gr8Bigguy, so i joined the games with him, and he was/is a RG user, and played in Half-Renguard servers, so i risked it, and more than once i was Forcerg'd out of a server, and the most recent was urs, for "hacking" so i took it to IRC, a lot happend and i got banned form the IRC channel.
and yes i realize that you'll think that all of that is off topic but it isnt, becuz, Crazy dont cheat, he dont hack, he is an honest to goodness player of Renegade, and ive known Crazy for about a yr and a half now, and never has he cheated. so banning him fromwhatever for whatever he wa banned for is BS, and totally n00bish. and if you delete this post, then it just proves that you are afraid that i might make an impact on some people that u have control over becuz u control RG and they use it. so stop being total jackoffs and unban Crazy.
N00bStories is gay,
and Renguard sux balls
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| Re: same old... [message #176974 is a reply to message #176865] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 10:45 |
Parad0x
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It's the internet, people aren't who they say they are all the time, aswell as them not always being so innocent as they make out.
Forum E-Terrorist ~ Hijacking Threads Is What It's About!
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| Re: same old... [message #176976 is a reply to message #176971] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 10:58 |
Jokah
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| DawGY wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 12:39 |
ok now comes my 2 cents or more.
Im tired of you friggin loser RG mods/creators thinking that just becuz we dont have RG that we cheat, well we dont.
People that dont have RG r smart, and realize that RG sux balls.
90% of people that dont use RG hate it, and know that it is a pointless file that just takes up space on your computer, and the other 10% just dont know that it is out-there.
Now ive been playing Renegade since it was realesed, and was playing C&C games since the orignal Command and Conquer from Westwood. and never have i seen any game die becuz of some moronic people that think they can invent an Anti-Cheat. and yes, i used to be a RG user, but i deleted it after i got OVER 50 Viruses and 20 threats becuz of RG, and i checked, that all the files sources lead back to the RG data. so i was back to playing ren, the regular way, the way it should be played, RG free, and nobody using !forcerg PADawGY to kick me out of a game, so i only played where i knew there wasnt any RG stuff. But i got tired of playing with people that i couldnt have as much playing with as i could with my Grandpa, Gr8Bigguy, so i joined the games with him, and he was/is a RG user, and played in Half-Renguard servers, so i risked it, and more than once i was Forcerg'd out of a server, and the most recent was urs, for "hacking" so i took it to IRC, a lot happend and i got banned form the IRC channel.
and yes i realize that you'll think that all of that is off topic but it isnt, becuz, Crazy dont cheat, he dont hack, he is an honest to goodness player of Renegade, and ive known Crazy for about a yr and a half now, and never has he cheated. so banning him fromwhatever for whatever he wa banned for is BS, and totally n00bish. and if you delete this post, then it just proves that you are afraid that i might make an impact on some people that u have control over becuz u control RG and they use it. so stop being total jackoffs and unban Crazy.
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Did you register just to say that? And as Parad0x was bringing forth: "It's the internet" I don't know this "guy\girl" But I wouldn't care if he\she is the most important man\woman in the world.
Sound Artist, DJ.
I am 52% addicted to Counterstrike. <a href="[url]http://seanism.com/addiction/cs.php What about you?
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| Re: same old... [message #176977 is a reply to message #176865] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 11:02 |
ajz4221
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I might be angry about renguard, but you people that say you have cheated is just as bad...I hope you realize that.
I absolutly HATE cheaters regardless of what I think about Renguard...
Don't do it and it gets you nowhere; play the game the way it is suppose to be played (like when it was released maybe?)
oh wait...that would never happen.
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| Re: same old... [message #176980 is a reply to message #176971] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 11:12 |
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Scythar
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| DawGY wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 12:39 |
ok now comes my 2 cents or more.
Im tired of you friggin loser RG mods/creators thinking that just becuz we dont have RG that we cheat, well we dont.
People that dont have RG r smart, and realize that RG sux balls.
90% of people that dont use RG hate it, and know that it is a pointless file that just takes up space on your computer, and the other 10% just dont know that it is out-there.
Now ive been playing Renegade since it was realesed, and was playing C&C games since the orignal Command and Conquer from Westwood. and never have i seen any game die becuz of some moronic people that think they can invent an Anti-Cheat. and yes, i used to be a RG user, but i deleted it after i got OVER 50 Viruses and 20 threats becuz of RG, and i checked, that all the files sources lead back to the RG data. so i was back to playing ren, the regular way, the way it should be played, RG free, and nobody using !forcerg PADawGY to kick me out of a game, so i only played where i knew there wasnt any RG stuff. But i got tired of playing with people that i couldnt have as much playing with as i could with my Grandpa, Gr8Bigguy, so i joined the games with him, and he was/is a RG user, and played in Half-Renguard servers, so i risked it, and more than once i was Forcerg'd out of a server, and the most recent was urs, for "hacking" so i took it to IRC, a lot happend and i got banned form the IRC channel.
and yes i realize that you'll think that all of that is off topic but it isnt, becuz, Crazy dont cheat, he dont hack, he is an honest to goodness player of Renegade, and ive known Crazy for about a yr and a half now, and never has he cheated. so banning him fromwhatever for whatever he wa banned for is BS, and totally n00bish. and if you delete this post, then it just proves that you are afraid that i might make an impact on some people that u have control over becuz u control RG and they use it. so stop being total jackoffs and unban Crazy.
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Mindless rantings won't have any impact on the RG users who know it doesn't spread any viruses or trojans. And give me a break, if you get "50 viruses and 20 threats" on your system, it just proves you suck at computers in general. (Probably because you're quite young, judging from your post). And also, I highly doubt you have any kind of idea how to check if a file source leads back to "RG data".
If you have something important to say, then say it. If you just want attention, wear a clown mask and go run down the street naked.
And sorry, this became awfully ranting/offensive post, didn't quite mean it. I'm still going to be an idiot and post it nevertheless.
There's a hole in the sky through which things can fly.
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| Re: same old... [message #176981 is a reply to message #176865] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 11:18 |
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=HT=Soviet
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I think renguard is an absolutely great program on the other hand it has become an easy out answer for those who even suspect of cheating. Unless a file is explicitly found to be in that players renegade folder, they should not be banned from any server just because they are too good. This is an age old argument and has been established numerous times.
The fact that Crazy here was banned does not surprise me. Not because he cheats, but because whenever any of us attempt to use Renguard something seems to go wrong and we wind up banned ourselves. I think it goes back to the Salem Witch Hunt when the father of the chief magistrate wrote to his son regarding the events in Salem Village. He said something of the extent of letting 10 guilty go free rather then let one innocent be condemned.
The answer to rampant hackers in our servers was and always will be well trained moderators entrusted to maintain a fair process for testing cheaters.
Also one last bit, Tommy your opinions are just that your opinions. Alot of your supposed facts are based on circumstantial at best evidence. Like i said earlier it is a great program but like most programs has a few minor drawbacks. Also respectfully Tommy noone is forcing the servers to run Renguard. If a server runs the program great for them if not that's ok to. It's just that your post seems highly critical of a program that is rooted in good will.
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| Re: same old... [message #176985 is a reply to message #176981] |
Sun, 30 October 2005 12:11 |
[RF]Puppy
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| =HT=Soviet wrote on Sun, 30 October 2005 12:18 |
I think renguard is an absolutely great program on the other hand it has become an easy out answer for those who even suspect of cheating. Unless a file is explicitly found to be in that players renegade folder, they should not be banned from any server just because they are too good. This is an age old argument and has been established numerous times.
The fact that Crazy here was banned does not surprise me. Not because he cheats, but because whenever any of us attempt to use Renguard something seems to go wrong and we wind up banned ourselves. I think it goes back to the Salem Witch Hunt when the father of the chief magistrate wrote to his son regarding the events in Salem Village. He said something of the extent of letting 10 guilty go free rather then let one innocent be condemned.
The answer to rampant hackers in our servers was and always will be well trained moderators entrusted to maintain a fair process for testing cheaters.
Also one last bit, Tommy your opinions are just that your opinions. Alot of your supposed facts are based on circumstantial at best evidence. Like i said earlier it is a great program but like most programs has a few minor drawbacks. Also respectfully Tommy noone is forcing the servers to run Renguard. If a server runs the program great for them if not that's ok to. It's just that your post seems highly critical of a program that is rooted in good will.
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Soviet, you used to hate renguard. Man, you change sides almost daily. Geeze. You used to go into forums and make fun of people that use renguard. I can't trust a word you say anymore.
And the only reason I cheated that ONE TIME was to prove that renguard is not perfect, like you set it out to be.
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