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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176070 is a reply to message #176031] Sun, 23 October 2005 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mrpirate wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 13:36

I imagine it is almost as rewarding to know you're better than everyone who's out there drinking or tripping or whatever, as it is to being doing it first-hand.


Better? No. More disciplined? Likely, but not certainly.

You and your ilk argue the experience itself as justification for doing the act; it's fun, it's fascinating, or another similar facsimile. I contend the action doesn't justify the experience, and have supported it.



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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176103 is a reply to message #176046] Sun, 23 October 2005 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kytten9 wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 15:54

ghost wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 00:32

im not planing on dying early...
its that simple.yes i know i can die from something else but why take off 10 years of my life and ruin it with me getting some kind of infection?

you might as well enhale the smoke from a muffler for 1 week straight....yes,its the same thing


oh yeah... not to mention ur paying for a early death...
if u smoke ur losing alot of money in the long run Big Grin Big Grin


so if u do smoke i wish u a happy birthday cause it could be ur last


Tell that to my granny, she died of cancer at the age of 54...THAT IS NOT OLD and she NEVER smoked a day in her life....tell that to Mary a friend of my mothers who is 83 years old and was smoking at the tender age of 13 (70 years)

It's bullshit that smoking is GOING to make you die younger and its bullshit that not-smoking, drinking or never doing illegal drugs gives you a healthy life style...people are different and react different to substances, it's called genetics. The more acurate statement is: INCREASE the chances of dying younger from smoking related diseases!


Did your granny happen to live in a house or work in a place where there was a lot of smoking? Second hand smoke is much worse than actually smoking the cigarette.

So how many times did Mary "survive" cancer?


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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176126 is a reply to message #175237] Sun, 23 October 2005 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, about cancer.

Everyone has a certain amount of "cancer resistance". One person has lots, another person has less.

When you smoke, that resistance is slowly fading away. If you had lots: no problem! If you had little to none... oh-oh

So you cannot say that smoking has no relationship between getting cancer. If a person who smokes a lot doesn't get cancer, he probably had a fine resistance at the start. Are you going to take the risk to see how resisting you are??? GL!


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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176154 is a reply to message #175237] Mon, 24 October 2005 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Um.. RenX, second hand smoke is not worse then actually smoking the cigarette.


Where did you get that from? Whats That


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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176176 is a reply to message #176046] Mon, 24 October 2005 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Java, did you seriously just try to compare understanding a circle with understanding an acid trip?

Keep thinking that you have all the information you need to understand this. I've read your argument as to why you think you have just as good a frame of reference as anyone else, and it's just silly. I can tell from your writing you're a very smart person... but you just don't get it here.


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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176189 is a reply to message #175237] Mon, 24 October 2005 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I didn't compare understanding a circle to an acid trip. I compared the possibility of understanding something you do not experience to something you haven't experienced. I just called it a circle for simplicity's sake, but the logic is what is important; not the object I use to explain it.

Again, your "frame of reference" argument is seriously flawed. The logic YOU are trying to impart on it is the same logic that works in "Don't bash it till you've tried it". Do I *really* have to explain to why that doesn't work when describing the sanity of the action, why you don't need to do the action, or why your reasons for doing it (as you've implied or stated) do not justify it?

If I do, then we have some serious issues going on here.



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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176209 is a reply to message #176103] Mon, 24 October 2005 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renx wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 21:45

Kytten9 wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 15:54

ghost wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 00:32

im not planing on dying early...
its that simple.yes i know i can die from something else but why take off 10 years of my life and ruin it with me getting some kind of infection?

you might as well enhale the smoke from a muffler for 1 week straight....yes,its the same thing


oh yeah... not to mention ur paying for a early death...
if u smoke ur losing alot of money in the long run Big Grin Big Grin


so if u do smoke i wish u a happy birthday cause it could be ur last


Tell that to my granny, she died of cancer at the age of 54...THAT IS NOT OLD and she NEVER smoked a day in her life....tell that to Mary a friend of my mothers who is 83 years old and was smoking at the tender age of 13 (70 years)

It's bullshit that smoking is GOING to make you die younger and its bullshit that not-smoking, drinking or never doing illegal drugs gives you a healthy life style...people are different and react different to substances, it's called genetics. The more acurate statement is: INCREASE the chances of dying younger from smoking related diseases!


Did your granny happen to live in a house or work in a place where there was a lot of smoking? Second hand smoke is much worse than actually smoking the cigarette.

So how many times did Mary "survive" cancer?


Mary has never had cancer. My Granny lived with my grandad...who never smoked either (but he is still alive today)

My granny had Lymphatic Melanoma (check my spelling) caused when cancer spread from her breasts to her glands (under her armpits - they travel throughout the entire human body) she died slowly and painfully, over a period of like 18 months. But had cancer much longer than that.


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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176639 is a reply to message #175248] Thu, 27 October 2005 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 14:48

Cigars only on occasion. I also usually only smoke socially. I'm not a big smoker, and I won't touch cigarettes.

Exact same for me, I drink/party though. Life just wouldn't be as fun without beer.


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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176894 is a reply to message #175921] Sat, 29 October 2005 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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warranto wrote on Sat, 22 October 2005 15:58

Hydra:....

???
Did I write something without knowing it...?


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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176895 is a reply to message #175237] Sat, 29 October 2005 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess not... I wonder how that happened... Embarassed


Oh, I think I know...

I was trying to find the right page in the reply section (mine doesn't start off on the latest page, despite the page number stating otherwise). I read one of your posts some time in updating it, and typed your name instead of SEAL's.

Ignore that. Embarassed

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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176896 is a reply to message #175237] Sat, 29 October 2005 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okey dokey; I just saw my name and got a little confused.

Sorry for my interuption; we now return to our regularly scheduled mud-slinging. Razz


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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #176902 is a reply to message #175237] Sat, 29 October 2005 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Should be a lock coming on, this thread's ran its course long ago.

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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #177076 is a reply to message #175237] Mon, 31 October 2005 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, it was a good convo.



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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #177121 is a reply to message #175237] Mon, 31 October 2005 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you actually think warranto was the only "con", then your delusional.

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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #177164 is a reply to message #175237] Mon, 31 October 2005 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That was just the reefer talkin' for him.

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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #177305 is a reply to message #175539] Tue, 01 November 2005 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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God of Death wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 15:45

Do you know where they get the shrooms that you eat?

The high you get is totally worth it.
Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #177315 is a reply to message #177305] Tue, 01 November 2005 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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karmai wrote on Tue, 01 November 2005 19:17

God of Death wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 15:45

Do you know where they get the shrooms that you eat?

The high you get is totally worth it.



Come on, don't you think about it. I mean its cow shit. It grows through cow shit. Ew.


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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #177321 is a reply to message #175237] Tue, 01 November 2005 20:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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from karmai's posts I don't doubt that he has divulged in the consumption of cow shit fungus.

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Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #177322 is a reply to message #175237] Tue, 01 November 2005 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think that shrooms are necessarily grown in cow shit. Either way, they are totally disgusting. Actually eating them is a chore.
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mrpirate wrote on Tue, 01 November 2005 21:25

I don't think that shrooms are necessarily grown in cow shit. Either way, they are totally disgusting. Actually eating them is a chore.



It's not the only way it's done, but it is the most popular, as it is the easiest way to get it and the cheapest. 9/10 it's straight from the cow's shit.


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mrpirate wrote on Tue, 01 November 2005 22:25

I don't think that shrooms are necessarily grown in cow shit. Either way, they are totally disgusting. Actually eating them is a chore.

It's true, they don't taste that great. Have some water around when you toss back 2.5g Razz


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You mean something that grows from the shit of a steer does not taste good? A novel concept.

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warranto wrote on Sat, 22 October 2005 21:57

The point is this: there have been instances where someone, who would not have done it under normal circumstances however, while delivering a pizza while being high, killed the person (if I remember the story correctly). This was something that was told to me by a person who I believe to be trustworthy. Had that person not been high, the murder would not have occured.


I confess, that person was me. I tried to back you up by finding evidence that he was on marijuana at the time, but all I CAN find is that he was drunk.

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If you read through all this, you'll see that he was depressed and intending to take his own life and ended up taking someone else's instead. Knowing this guy personally (seeing him last about 6 months before the murder) and knowing that he did pot daily, it's very logical to assume on what he planned as the last day of his life, he would have been on pot. Take what you want from that. The guy was a total asshole on pot. One time we locked him out of the store (I worked at Domino's with him, I was the main manager, he was an assistant) and instead of using his key like we expected, he picked up the huge rock we used to prop the door open and hurled it several times at the metal door, leaving huge dents in it. He was high at the time.

Basically what it came down to is that while on pot, he didn't give a shit about the consequences of his actions. Combine that with being drunk which can often lead to violence and it spelled doom for the woman he killed.


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Denver legalized the possession of one ounce of pot on someone at a time. Soon we will witness streets of drooling zombies laughing incoherently.

I couldnt find the article that shows its happened, only the one that shows that it was proposed:
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Though it was legalized to be in possession, but I don't think they legalized smoking or buying it, just possesing it. Government has a habit of doing funny stuff like that. When pot was first outlawed, they said that it was okay to have it, if you have a permit, funny thing is that the only way to get one is from the government and the government didn't make any.

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