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I recently have had a problem and I posted it in the =[UN]= forums for asistance.(posted there because I did not suspect it was RG at the time)

RC22Fires in UN forums


I simply turn off my computer for 3 hours because thats usually all the sleep I need. Guess what I get when I turn it back on.

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Seems I can't delete it ffs.

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Sigh :-[

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Hey look norton has more to say!

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Yikes thats not good. FFS

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Oh and to top it all off ever since this started I can't start renguard.
- This is all I get when trying to start RG.

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OMFG What do I do?





Hmmmm and what happend was I got some very nice replys.
One of the 1st ones I got worked.



Enforcer's reply in UNforums


http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/hack tool.rootkit.html

READ FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY




You see these virus messages I got apeared yesterday and I followed the instructions and quarantined it. Had no problems.
Until I started Renguard again. I got the message right when I double clicked game.exe


So I told a buddy clan member of mine and said he haid the same problem. I managed to ask him when it occured. He said yesterday.

ZOMG when it happend to me. His Renguard was starting for him and he did not get "failed to initialize" message as I did. What he did was reinstall Renguard and now he is not getting the virus alert messages. I am going to reinstall Renguard now. If this works I will postreply. If it does not I will probally postreply.


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Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175501 is a reply to message #175500] Thu, 20 October 2005 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok I talked to my clan bud again. He said that his Norton try icon was there but it wasn't actually loaded. After moving cursor over vanished and anyway once again it happens only when starting Renguard. At least he can play ffs.

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Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175502 is a reply to message #175500] Thu, 20 October 2005 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No it doesnt.

The "couldn't initialize service" error is a firewall problem.


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Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175503 is a reply to message #175500] Thu, 20 October 2005 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175504 is a reply to message #175502] Thu, 20 October 2005 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Parad0x wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 12:26

No it doesnt.

The "couldn't initialize service" error is a firewall problem.




How could it be a firewall problem when I have not configured or changed my firewall in anyway before this started happening.

Also It can't be a firewall problem because right before this message comes up game.exe doesn't even become a process for a milisecond. IE it does not come on at all. Renguard needs to be able to initialize before it can try to connect.


No sorry, I was not specific. The screenshots I previded were, You were not talking about what I am talking about. I know what error you mean.

I am talking about Error: loader couldn't initialize service!


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Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175505 is a reply to message #175500] Thu, 20 October 2005 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some other people got that too since yesterday.

Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175506 is a reply to message #175505] Thu, 20 October 2005 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ma1kel wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 12:54

Some other people got that too since yesterday.



Well that is VERY interesting.


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Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175512 is a reply to message #175500] Thu, 20 October 2005 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also have a problem with this happening. Only my situation is a little better. Although each time i start renguard Norton Anti-virus warning pops up and says virus found called Hacktool.Rootkit, i can still play renegade with renguard. Seems a bit strange that this virus would be detected only after renguard is starting up and at no other point in my computer running... Sarcasm This started just yesterday and i have made no changes to my firewall or Norton. I have restarted my computer and reinstalled renguard with the same thing happening after i did both.
Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175513 is a reply to message #175500] Thu, 20 October 2005 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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your not the only one that I know of that is having this problem. I don't see any comments from mac or Crimson though that would shed some light on this.

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Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175516 is a reply to message #175500] Thu, 20 October 2005 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This was earlier in #bhs_support on IRC.

[16:55:48] <@Crimson> It's Norton FFS
[16:55:58] <@Crimson> Norton must have sent out a new update
[16:56:17] <@Crimson> Some virus writers use SVKP to pack their viruses because it makes it harder to reverse engineer
[16:56:26] <@Crimson> No one is getting infected


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Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175517 is a reply to message #175500] Thu, 20 October 2005 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My norton antivirus has detected this and its says it found a hacktool.rootkit in windows/system32/SVKP.sys and it only happens when i try and run renegade through renguard, i uninstalled it and i can stil play ren without renguard, i reinstalled renguard and it still doesn't work, i stil get the same error message and a box "loader cannot initiliaze loader (or service don't remeber which one)" its definately not my firewall for two reasons, a i haven't changed anything, and b its an external firewall protecting my home network so it isn't even on this comp. I also tried reinstalling renegade and found that its a renguard problem, and only happens when i try and use renguard.

I'd appreciate it if someone from the renguard team or anyone could help me with this problem.


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I figured it out.

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Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175522 is a reply to message #175500] Thu, 20 October 2005 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not sure exactly why we're seeing this so often recently. My guess is that the most recent virus definitions file that Symantec put out for Norton's Anti-Virus doesn't like SVKP, which is a service necessary to run RenGuard...

In any case, you should first scan your computer to make sure that you do not have any viruses. When you are confident that you have no viruses, you can then tell Norton's AntiVirus to remove SVKP.sys from the Quarantine list. I will detail the instructions for that shortly, for Norton's Anti-Virus 2005. If SVKP.sys is not in your Quarantine list, then you must reinstall RenGuard (and you can probably thank Symantec for that).

To remove SVKP.sys from your Quarantine list, double-click on the Norton's Anti-Virus icon in your system tray (next to your clock). When NAV has finished loading, on the left you should see a links. I have "Status", "Scan for Viruses", "Reports", and "Advanced Tools". You should click on "Reports". Then, in the top center of the window should be an item named "View Quarantined Items". Click on that. This will bring up a new window showing exactly what files Norton's Anti-Virus has quarantined. Look for an entry with a file named "SVKP.sys" with a threat named "Hacktool.rootkit". Right click, and select "Restore".

If all goes well, then Norton's Anti-Virus should not complain about SVKP.sys anymore (unless Symantec does this again).

And again, RenGuard is not a worm, a virus, a backdoor, or any other malware. I can personally guarantee that.

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If the RenGuard loader still couldn't initialize the service after removing SVKP.sys from your Quarantine list, then you will most likely need to reinstall SVKP.sys (which can be done by reinstalling RenGuard).


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I reinstalled renguard and deleted the SVKP from the reg as one of the stickys put as a possible solution.....nothign works i still get a "loader cannot initilize service" message

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I got my RG working and got rid of Norton.

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Ok..I have already done the same thing and removed it, i have reinstalled renguard and restarted my computer the detection of virus warning STILL COMES UP and now i CAN'T EVEN PLAY THE GAME JUST LIKE RC22FIRES . Before that it would just come up i click OK twice and the game plays with renguard. Now, i get: "Error:Loader couldn't initialize service!" i click ok and im back in GSA lobby. Wonderful, now i will probably get forced from each server i attempt to play because i will be playing without renguard. Another problem that has started after this problem with a virus that is detected when i start renguard is that whenever i click the desktop icon of renguard it brings up a message saying "About to restart." My computer then restarts and before logging into my account on Windows XP it stops at welcome and brings up the installer for renegade demo! Huh So, i can't play from GSA with renguard and i can't get to renegade to play westwood online. Thumbs Up Before we just say its Norton lets look over all the possible problems...suggestion maybe Renguard, dunno just puttin it out there Satisfied
Re: HELP ME OUT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND. WORM THROUGH RG? [message #175546 is a reply to message #175500] Thu, 20 October 2005 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You all "seem" to get infect at the same time because you all use norton. People that arent running the crap that is norton dont have this problem.

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Parad0x wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 16:11

You all "seem" to get infect at the same time because you all use norton. People that arent running the crap that is norton dont have this problem.

Shut up. I've never had any problems with Norton's Anti-Virus.


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SVKP was infected on my laptop and I haven't even ran RG in months on that...

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Lotsa people around me have the problem. Definately a Norton problem!

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I has this problem too!
I have solution found like it again go!
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It's Norton - they released their latest liveupdate definitions this morning - we downloaded them like good boys and girls and here we are. I have just spent ten minutes on their site trying to find somewhere to leave a Q for their support staff - remarkably there is no where to do this that I can find. I am not a techy in any way and have no solution to offer - just the reassurance that it is not renguard causing a problem rather Norton - IMHO - it is too coincidental for it not to be. Gulp! I can play just by clicking the game2.exe file - but obviously without renguard - so I am snookered for all but the server I pay for. However one of the ways we police the server is to !forcerg peeps - hence we are a bit exposed to accusations of hypocracy if all the clan play with no renguard etc. Bit of a conundrum really. BHS have not caused this and it is a Norton caused issue and yet how to contact Norton to get them to undo the damage? Any helpful suggestions would be gratefully received. None of the fixes above work BTW - I have tried them all and get the error:failed to initialise loader error all the time. Damn - just as the weekend is coming up as well.

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Lotsa people around me have the problem. Definately a Norton problem!

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I quarantined it and everything seems to work fine. When I start RG it still gaves the "you have a virus" message, but when I look into the location of the file I find that it isn't actually there, but rather still quarantined. After that everything works normally.

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Kanezor wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 13:44

I'm not sure exactly why we're seeing this so often recently. My guess is that the most recent virus definitions file that Symantec put out for Norton's Anti-Virus doesn't like SVKP, which is a service necessary to run RenGuard...

In any case, you should first scan your computer to make sure that you do not have any viruses. When you are confident that you have no viruses, you can then tell Norton's AntiVirus to remove SVKP.sys from the Quarantine list. I will detail the instructions for that shortly, for Norton's Anti-Virus 2005. If SVKP.sys is not in your Quarantine list, then you must reinstall RenGuard (and you can probably thank Symantec for that).

To remove SVKP.sys from your Quarantine list, double-click on the Norton's Anti-Virus icon in your system tray (next to your clock). When NAV has finished loading, on the left you should see a links. I have "Status", "Scan for Viruses", "Reports", and "Advanced Tools". You should click on "Reports". Then, in the top center of the window should be an item named "View Quarantined Items". Click on that. This will bring up a new window showing exactly what files Norton's Anti-Virus has quarantined. Look for an entry with a file named "SVKP.sys" with a threat named "Hacktool.rootkit". Right click, and select "Restore".

If all goes well, then Norton's Anti-Virus should not complain about SVKP.sys anymore (unless Symantec does this again).

And again, RenGuard is not a worm, a virus, a backdoor, or any other malware. I can personally guarantee that.

Edit:
If the RenGuard loader still couldn't initialize the service after removing SVKP.sys from your Quarantine list, then you will most likely need to reinstall SVKP.sys (which can be done by reinstalling RenGuard).


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