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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168069 is a reply to message #168066] |
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Hmm... No cheats, eh? Unless the Clear Scope is a cheat, then i believe him. Y'know, aside from the fact that he shot about, as Chrono put it, a meter from someones ear, and killed them. A few of them looked like lag kills, and fewer were actual SKILL kills. Other than that, no, that was definate either cheating, or somethin. And what kind of Engineer gets out of his Mammoth, and doesnt repair while moving, or atleast BEHIND the damn thing?
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30 |
I've been Nodbuggered. =( =( =(
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168083 is a reply to message #168073] |
Sat, 27 August 2005 18:51 |
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| dsi1 wrote on Sat, 27 August 2005 20:20 |
Well hes using a n00bjet thats proof that he cheats right there
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Listen here, Skippy. Everyone has, at one point, used the Ramjet. This does not imply that everyone cheats. I use the Ramjet when my team has taken over the enemy base, like, say, we have atleast 4 tanks in there, and they aint doin so hot against them. At that point, yes, i may consider using it just for the basic infantry that scurry around. Since you has that using the Ramjet is cheating, are you saying that cheat, because i rarely use it? If so, then why havent i been caught by Renguard? Crimson can possibly vouch for me on this, the most illegal thing ive had, was a bunch of skins that werent allowed by Renguard.
Now dont complain about the fuggin Ramjet Rifle, especially if you get killed by one. The people who use it put themselves and their Credits at risk by using it, since it fires fuggin tracer rounds. If you think that they should be considered cheating because they use the overly powerful Sniper weapon, then i have but one thing to say to you: Nobody cares.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30 |
I've been Nodbuggered. =( =( =(
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168097 is a reply to message #168066] |
Sat, 27 August 2005 21:13 |
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The word n00bjet is just a lameass excuse for people who are using a 500 and die. Boo fucking hoo, at least blame lag or something. Yeah they're over powered, but not against infantry. Clearscope isn't a cheat. So what if it's a slight advantage, bright skins are, sbh skins are, having a faster computer is and there are more things. Big deal, accept it.
Homey
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168098 is a reply to message #168097] |
Sat, 27 August 2005 21:16 |
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| Homey wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 00:13 |
The word n00bjet is just a lameass excuse for people who are using a 500 and die. Boo fucking hoo, at least blame lag or something. Yeah they're over powered, but not against infantry. Clearscope isn't a cheat. So what if it's a slight advantage, bright skins are, sbh skins are, having a faster computer is and there are more things. Big deal, accept it.
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Well put, i often get told i cheat cuz i NEVER lag.
I ha ve a very powerful comp so what, its not cheating, and yes even i use the ramjets, even though i think 500 are better.
A pissed off noob Once said:
I DESLIKE YOU!
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168114 is a reply to message #168112] |
Sat, 27 August 2005 23:20 |
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| cheekay77 wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 02:04 |
| deerwalk wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 01:39 |
Why would he make a video instead of just booting up renguard.....
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Not every person who dont have renguard cheats.
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You didn't answer his question, nor explain the fact he can shoot WAY to the side of a player for a kill in a relatively lagless situation.
PS: All you dumbfucks who think only losers call ramjets n00bjets have clearly never played with the people I have. Generally it's the n00bjets who suck ass, hence they use n00bjets to try to compensate. They do not "own" people, and I cannot even really consider ANY kill with a n00bjet "owning" somebody. "LOL I PWNED YOU I SHOT UR HAND" Wow. Skillz. Right there. "LOL I TOOK A RAILGUN SHOT AND LIVED! SKILLZ!" No.
N00bjets users chronically suck ass. They do nothing but steal kills from people who would deserve them, and encourage suck-ass performance.
Let me mention it is better against light vehicles than a damned railgun. And it shoots faster, scopes, and has great range.
| Homey wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 00:13 |
Yeah they're over powered, but not against infantry. Clearscope isn't a cheat. So what if it's a slight advantage, bright skins are, sbh skins are, having a faster computer is and there are more things. Big deal, accept it.
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90% of players consider removing the black border from a weapon that's already overpowered a cheat. It adds even more overpowered-ness especially against infantry which are smaller targets and therefore harder to target. 90% of players consider bright skins, solid-color-player-heads, and sbh skins cheats. In fact, I daresay only players who don't use them themselves consider purposely-bright SBH skins cheating, because when cloaked even at visible range, only about 30% of an SBH is visible. The bright, solid skins make that be 100%. Many server owners have a special way to deal with it: they kick or ban a player.
Having a faster computer shouldn't be a huge issue. You can play this game FINE on a 1ghz computer with a not-even-32mb vid card. I did it all the time before I got my current system with a whopping (lol) 64mb video card. Sure, sniping during a flame tank rush will be harder, that's true! But compared to the skins intended to outright imbalance things and render camo and dark colors useless, that's in no way a cheat.
Hey, I know! By your logic, having better coding skills and creating your own hacks is just another advantage a player brings with them to the game huh? Just like those who recolored the player heads bright red, and those who made SBH 75% more visible.
Making the boundaries that are shootable around a character's head and making your weapon have a wider blast area would definitely count as a cheat, too.
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168116 is a reply to message #168097] |
Sat, 27 August 2005 23:25 |
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| Homey wrote on Sat, 27 August 2005 23:13 |
The word n00bjet is just a lameass excuse for people who are using a 500 and die. Boo fucking hoo, at least blame lag or something. Yeah they're over powered, but not against infantry. Clearscope isn't a cheat. So what if it's a slight advantage, bright skins are, sbh skins are, having a faster computer is and there are more things. Big deal, accept it.
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it's an anti-material rifle, meant for piercing through light armor. It's not over powered against vehicles at all.
The fact that you can run and jump and dance infront of the other team while firing off 4 shots in a few seconds from a 50cal rifle is slightly over powered, don't you think?
"Still using 500?" It's not something you work your way up to. People who have a hard time landing headshots generally buy havocs more often. People who land them more easily buy 500s because it's the more sensible choice.
There's only one sniper rifle in the game. If I'm going to snipe, that's what I'll use.
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168126 is a reply to message #168066] |
Sun, 28 August 2005 00:14 |
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Renegade can't run renegade worth shit on a 1ghz, well I really only play in the larger servers anyways. So every played that uses a ramjet is a n00b and steals kills, there's that bullshit logic again. Also while you're at it people prove to me chrono how 90% of the players out there think clearscope is a cheat. I wouldn't use it if I wasn't stuck with this 15" monitor but when I had a 19" I noticed no difference in my gameplay and how many people I killed with or without it. So there's another lame ass excuse. I'm glad you agree with me about the SBH skins because I think it's bullshit when you're seen from almost triple the distance of the original. Anyways bickering about how clearscope is such a huge advantage is horse shit, simply because it's not a huge advantage. Many people use them, it's not going to change much.
Well renx I only think they're over powered on air vehicles, others are fine, well they get way too many points for shooting heavy armour vehicles though.
PS chrono i'd love to see you join fnfall and see how you do anyways, you seem pretty arrogant about yourself.
Homey
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168127 is a reply to message #168066] |
Sun, 28 August 2005 00:17 |
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Oh and don't think i'm a ramjet whore, I just use whatever, either way i'll get headshots. The people that I love the most are the ones that say n00bjet and body shoot with a 500 sniper, it's just pointless. Or the ones that say n00bjet and 5 minutes later you see them with one.
Edit: Just thinking, chrono is going to come back and basically repeat himself with different words or something. Only way to settle it is a good ol game of rene.
Homey
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168129 is a reply to message #168116] |
Sun, 28 August 2005 00:50 |
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| Renx wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 02:25 |
it's an anti-material rifle, meant for piercing through light armor. It's not over powered against vehicles at all.
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I totally disagree, I don't mind at all someone getting mass kills with a ramjet just by bodyshotting everyone, but they are WAY overpowered against light armour vehicles considering how easy they are to use.
The thing is, say I've got an artillery on Field. Some guy rushes me with a med tank. If he's really good in a med, he'll duck and dodge with the med, use cover to his advantage, and probably kill my art. On the other hand, if he's an average player, I'll kill his med in ten seconds flat and probably come out with 75% of my armour intact.
A havoc on the other hand. The absolute worst player in the world does exactly as much damage as the best player. They have infinite range and even if you got the game five minutes ago you can't miss an artillery. That's why when someone says ramjets don't take skill and a ramjet-user disagrees or says "you just got owned deal with it" they're just making themselves look fucking stupid.
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168134 is a reply to message #168066] |
Sun, 28 August 2005 01:35 |
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Exactly. See, thats why we think theyre fuggin retarded. They do way to much damage to vehicles, ESPECIALLY aerial units, and the scout vehicle, their one of the easiest to use weapons, their range is ungodly, and if your using them and kill someone, you should expect a quick response. I mean, come on, no friggan real weapon could be made like that! Atleast not a damn rifle.
Renx is right, the firing speed on that damn rifle is WAY to fast.
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90% of players consider removing the black border from a weapon that's already overpowered a cheat. It adds even more overpowered-ness especially against infantry which are smaller targets and therefore harder to target. 90% of players consider bright skins, solid-color-player-heads, and sbh skins cheats. In fact, I daresay only players who don't use them themselves consider purposely-bright SBH skins cheating, because when cloaked even at visible range, only about 30% of an SBH is visible. The bright, solid skins make that be 100%.
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Yep. Removing that border is rather stupid, since it doesnt obstruct much of your view, and you can just zoom out if you really need to. Yeah, the bright skins are also stupid. Who the hell needs to try to show off his skills via a skin? And yes, also the bright head skins. I found a Deadeye one, that turned him into a friggan walkin Green Screen! Neon green, and it covered his vest, legs, and part of his head. Needless to say, thats one of my most hated skins. Besides, its ugly.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30 |
I've been Nodbuggered. =( =( =(
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168176 is a reply to message #168129] |
Sun, 28 August 2005 09:26 |
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| Spoony wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 02:50 |
| Renx wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 02:25 |
it's an anti-material rifle, meant for piercing through light armor. It's not over powered against vehicles at all.
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I totally disagree, I don't mind at all someone getting mass kills with a ramjet just by bodyshotting everyone, but they are WAY overpowered against light armour vehicles considering how easy they are to use.
The thing is, say I've got an artillery on Field. Some guy rushes me with a med tank. If he's really good in a med, he'll duck and dodge with the med, use cover to his advantage, and probably kill my art. On the other hand, if he's an average player, I'll kill his med in ten seconds flat and probably come out with 75% of my armour intact.
A havoc on the other hand. The absolute worst player in the world does exactly as much damage as the best player. They have infinite range and even if you got the game five minutes ago you can't miss an artillery. That's why when someone says ramjets don't take skill and a ramjet-user disagrees or says "you just got owned deal with it" they're just making themselves look fucking stupid.
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A high powered rifle like that should fuck up a light armored vehicle pretty easily. Then again so should another tank...
Would make more sense if the ramjet did as much damage to vehicles as the 500 does, then the 500 did barely anything.
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168177 is a reply to message #168066] |
Sun, 28 August 2005 09:34 |
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I honestly dont think hes cheating.
These never ending arguements are so damn stupid...
If clearscope was a cheat and everyone thought it was a cheat it wouldnt be aloud on renguard.
And this n00bjet shit is fuckin retarded its a weapon in the game. it costs twice as more to buy then the regular sniper and it gives that blue tracer when it fires. I think thats enough to make up for it doing alittle more damage then the regular sniper. Who cares if you get killed by someone with it. Go spend the money and buy one then kill them. If you dont wanna spend 1000credits then dont bitch about getting owned.
And Chrono i remember very clearly back in the old days in the mutant server you would own a shit load of people early in the game with a deadeye but then once someone finally killed you you would always switch to the sakky or havoc.
(P.S omfg your girlfriend posts on your computer game forum thats fucking awesome, YOU HOLD ON TO THAT!)
(P.P.S I think she blocked me cuz i havnt seen her online in like a year and a half)
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168185 is a reply to message #168066] |
Sun, 28 August 2005 13:29 |
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LOL have ANY of you been able to snipe reliably at long range with a PIC or Rav? Hint hint...
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| Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh [message #168186 is a reply to message #168176] |
Sun, 28 August 2005 13:36 |
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| Renx wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 12:26 |
A high powered rifle like that should fuck up a light armored vehicle pretty easily.
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No way in hell it should do more than PIC/Rav, Mobius/Mendoza, or Gunner though, especially since all of the above have disadvantages the ramjet doesn't (PIC/Rav reload time, Mobius/Mendoza crappy range, Gunner rockets can be dodged... ramjets have none of the above, their range is as long as you could possibly need it to be, rapid fire/reload, and hits instantly)
It should be about half as effective against vehicles as the above weapons, instead of about three times as effective as it currently stands
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