| Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166669 is a reply to message #166626] |
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| Chronojam wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 15:32 |
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chrono, shut up! Next time you insult our work, I ban - delete your account.
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| "Renardin in an update thread on our forum" |
It's bad. Very bad. My post will be deleted of course, but let's see if you can face some critics here. At least at Reborn, we can. Here posts get deleted... Or prove me wrong
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So, who are the ones that can't take criticism? Yes, that would be you and your team. The posts that get (rarely) deleted are either spam or pure "that sucks/etc." posts, but that still beats getting banned and your account deleted for posting constructive criticism mostly on a completely different forum.
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| Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166696 is a reply to message #166661] |
Thu, 18 August 2005 05:18 |
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| Chronojam wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 23:52 |
I took that into consideration. Here's a quick little diagram comparing Westwood's weapon and Reborn's-- I'm ignoring surface detailing, the grip, the trigger, the front, top, and bottom views, and just looking at a very simplified side view (I don't want to confuse you!!)
It's in colors from opposite ends of the spectrum, so *especially* in the case of the part where I overlayed the two, you can easily view it even if you have poor eyesight and poor skill at judging distances and have trouble discerning shapes.
Is it clear for you?
Edit because imageshack is gay.
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ok point taken, but its still only a game 
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| Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166746 is a reply to message #166574] |
Thu, 18 August 2005 14:07 |
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I don't see very much that really needs to be purged in this thread besides the two posts above that are now gone--there are valid points here that I do not see as inflammatory.
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| Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166785 is a reply to message #166574] |
Thu, 18 August 2005 19:10 |
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ExDeath did a great job with the Reborn buildings. Too bad the weapons suck absolutely and the gameplay will probably be even worse. Whoever is making these has no knowledge of real world weapons. Also mising one of the defining marks of a rifle: a stock.
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| Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166788 is a reply to message #166574] |
Thu, 18 August 2005 20:48 |
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They ignored the stock and padding provided for a soldier's shoulder that is clearly evident in the cutscenes and renders.
Why? I have no fucking clue. Even if it was absent on the model, Renardin could have bs'd on some 'rubber' to the end of the thing, but didn't.
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| Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166791 is a reply to message #166786] |
Thu, 18 August 2005 21:10 |
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| Lijitsu wrote on Thu, 18 August 2005 22:04 |
You do know that Reborn is Tiberian Sun in Renegade, right? The people in the future will not be using an old Ak-47. Or atleast, in the TS timeline, they wont. I would, but i love that rifle.
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www.cncreborn.net go to forum; read the title of the forum. It's based on TS, not a copy of TS. No more to say I think.
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| Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166798 is a reply to message #166789] |
Thu, 18 August 2005 21:40 |
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| Lijitsu wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 00:00 |
In the picture, is the Soldier's Rifle against his shoulder? No. Its against his arm. However stupid that would be with weapons in the real world, the TS world might not have any recoil in their weapons. Ever think of that possibility? Hell, maybe their suits decrease recoil so much that it doesnt effect them enough for the padding to matter.
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Actually, I did think of that; And then I realized that for the most part they are using ammunition on par with modern-day weaponry, and there are plenty of shots of soldiers adopting traditional form when aiming and firing their weapons.
Further, many of these shots show a curved, padded section on the butt of the rifle, if we're talking about the Nod weapon here. But all too often a simple fact isn't enough for Reborn or its fans, and that's why I like to provide some in-depth reasoning so you can't just say "Ever think they don't have or need it"
(And even if their weapons decrease the impact of the weapon, that's not a reason to put a hammer-like protrusion on the end of such weapon where it would contact a soldier's shoulder, but this is thinking outside the box rationally and isn't allowed by Reborn)
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| Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166847 is a reply to message #166798] |
Fri, 19 August 2005 08:16 |
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| Chronojam wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 00:40 |
| Lijitsu wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 00:00 |
In the picture, is the Soldier's Rifle against his shoulder? No. Its against his arm. However stupid that would be with weapons in the real world, the TS world might not have any recoil in their weapons. Ever think of that possibility? Hell, maybe their suits decrease recoil so much that it doesnt effect them enough for the padding to matter.
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Actually, I did think of that; And then I realized that for the most part they are using ammunition on par with modern-day weaponry, and there are plenty of shots of soldiers adopting traditional form when aiming and firing their weapons.
Further, many of these shots show a curved, padded section on the butt of the rifle, if we're talking about the Nod weapon here. But all too often a simple fact isn't enough for Reborn or its fans, and that's why I like to provide some in-depth reasoning so you can't just say "Ever think they don't have or need it"
(And even if their weapons decrease the impact of the weapon, that's not a reason to put a hammer-like protrusion on the end of such weapon where it would contact a soldier's shoulder, but this is thinking outside the box rationally and isn't allowed by Reborn)
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Now that you mention it, i do remember the TS Riflemen using their weapons like the normal soldier in combat nowadays. Man i loved sending, like, 400 basic infantry into a base, and just watch the carnage. I did it to a campaign map once, and they killed every single one of them. Of course, this was after i destroyed over half their base. It was the mission where you have to capture Cabal as GDI, and they had those 5000 units all piled up in one place.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30 |
I've been Nodbuggered. =( =( =(
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| Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166849 is a reply to message #166574] |
Fri, 19 August 2005 08:31 |
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Looks good, but I guess that's just because I'm not an incredible stickler for weapon models and textures having to be perfectly aligned to source material.
And Chronojam, I'm sure you think you're very witty, but you're not.
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| Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166956 is a reply to message #166794] |
Sat, 20 August 2005 09:17 |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 05:23 |
If by "based on TS" you mean "Basing it on the minimum content required from TS to call it a C&C modification", sure...
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Sure, your allied tent with concrete basement(wtf?) was also so true to red alert...
I can't understand why you and your friends still care about reborn. We all know it sucks, so wtf?
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