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Re: CnC Reborn Update: Nod Rifle [message #166626 is a reply to message #166574] Wed, 17 August 2005 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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This is a very very ironic thing. Everything's done right, but for the wrong thing.

Summary:
1. Where's the penis?
2. Haven't we been through this before?
3. Why isn't it more like plastic?
4. Made by GDI, for Nod?
Intermission: Wtf?
5. Useful or useless?
6. Lego to the rescue. Again?
7. Hold me, please

1. Here's a rare case where it should have looked more like a penis. Instead, you stuck a crappily made nickel arrow nock on the front of a gun and expect bullets to come out fine. The front of the rifle is completely crap.

2. Let's revisit something brought up when the chainguns were made-- will that ammo counter work, or will we merely have a useless 99 pasted on the side of our gun?

3. The front insulation part of the gun somehow got lost in translation. Like I said in the first part, the front of the rifle is completely crap. It looks like you took a real gun, sawed off the front, and then taped together slightly-flattened, charred Coke cans and finally stuck a nock on the end of that. It looks like some heavy metal blocks there, maybe with a hole bored through for the rifle barrel-- not shielding, insulation, grip, etc.. just some metal thrown in there randomly, as if to give the soldier's left hand something important to do.

4. I won't nitpick about it being Patented, but the Belgium thing... I dunno... If it looked like some kind of Smith & Wesson gun and was made in a rogue Smith & Wesson style plant somewhere in the USA and it said it was made there, it'd pass *maybe* if we completely neglect that Nod had no influence in that area. So it not only doesn't look Belgian, but it doesn't really fit into the political scheme of things either.
"Renardin"

Belgium weapons aren't sold only to EU or NATO...

Cuba uses FN weapons as an example. Even terrorists can get some US weapons if they pay the price... So I don't see the problem and I am happy to add this little touch for my country Very Happy (for my last weapon skin for this mod if you don't consider beacons as weapons... Wink )

Captured Belgian weapons aren't sold with Al Qaida or HAMAS insignia pre-placed, nor are they designed by and for those organizations. Unless you've found some huge conspiracy? Wait a second, this pump shotgun I have says it was made in Belgium for the IRA?! Nevermind, false alarm.

Intermission. Otherwise, that detailed part I like. But the counter and front of gun, wtf? Did you even really take time to look at it? You must have been in a rush.

5. The back of the gun is boring and nonfunctional. For a gun that appears this amazingly heavy, they expect you to use it only from some rather stressful positions. Check out the stock, etc. on the plastic gun you copied. Check out the stocks that are optional on several SMGs, and look at the backs of American and British rifles. Don't give me any of this "omg it looks good" crap either, n00bies. Putting a spiked ball on the butt of a shotgun would make it look awesome and threaten weapon-ruining melee action, but it'd be f*cking stupid (I PUT A LITTLE STAR WOOT) but is completely useless and also detrimental to the use of the weapon. Following me on this? Useless. Even Nod, who likes to put flair and glamour into their stuff for the hell of it, wouldn't approve of such useless design. They'd be thinking, "wtf? Kill the designer. We need another cyborg anyways." Now, seriously, look at ANY render of a Nod soldier. I guarantee that if he's got a rifle, 9/10 times it'll have some kind of curved padding of SOME nature, ergonomically shaped to combine function and fashion into one-- MAYBE EVEN A PSEUDO-LEATHER COVERING! THO FABULOUTH! But seriously? What the hell?

6. Legos strike again. This keeps coming up. This looks eerily like the back off the Nod plasma rifle, but that's a rather-recoilless weapon where the back houses a display and the gun is held and fired a lot differently. It also reminds me of the back of the Mk2 before I pointed out how horrible it was (you all owe me) and really, the back off many things. Just a generic, thoughtless, "well we'll make that rounded-off Lego look"

http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/1634/lego0ju.gif
I love Legos, but don't overuse this one piece.

7. The grip part for the left hand.. erm, what should be a grip part. It's not. Those Coke-cans are far too slippery looking, and they don't really have grooves at all. So they fail at both heat dissappation and serving as a gripping point on the weapon. Not only that, it's all boxy and not formed well for fitting into a guy's hand from the looks of it, it should be curved more and have some grooves to it. Look in the movie where the orca pilot is killed, ffs. Hell, your screenshot shows it fine. The others are too, shall we say, muddy to show this as well as that one.





Update. Just read this in the now-locked thread where I called the "GDI" text on the power plant "ridiculous" (WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A HUGE INSULT TO THEM) http://www.reborn.communityteam.de/renardin/forum/viewtopic. php?p=13535#13535

"Renardin"

chrono, shut up! Next time you insult our work, I ban - delete your account.


I'm willing to bet I get banned for pointing out all these flaws. After all, showing them things to make the mod better is a kind of radical, RenAlert type thought that only a rebel mod like SWMod might ever use, ya know?

OMG DON'T TELL THEM WHAT STUFF LOOKS INACCURATE! THEY'LL BAN YOU ON THE SPOT! WHO CARES THAT THE FRONT OF A GUN WENT FROM A CONE TO A SPLIT-BARREL!? IT LOOKS GOOD JUST LIKE A CHROME-PLATED THROWING DISC WITH AN ELECTRIC FIELD AROUND IT!!!!

Please tell me somebody understands why I keep posting a Westwood Render of a Soviet Heavy Tank?
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I guess *Exdeath* can't ban me here =D

[Updated on: Wed, 17 August 2005 12:33]

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