| Re: GFX Question. [message #166377 is a reply to message #166359] |
Sun, 14 August 2005 10:53   |
icedog90
Messages: 3483
Registered: April 2003
Karma: 0
|
General (3 Stars) |
|
|
| JPNOD wrote on Sun, 14 August 2005 06:40 |
Put a AMD Sempron/Axp against a AMD 64 with a GF6800 and your fps will be significant lower.
|
Yes, but not that dramatically.
| JPNOD wrote on Sun, 14 August 2005 06:40 |
The only way to test this is by putting in a slower GFX card. If the fps is the same it means his other pc components are running behind the graphics card.
|
If you read my last post, I stated that I have a lot slower of a video card with a pretty equivalent processor and I get better performance than him.
| JPNOD wrote on Sun, 14 August 2005 06:40 |
And may post your other system spec's too. Saying a 4 years old mobo. If it has a slow chip the problem lies there.
|
My motherboard is about three years old. The motherboard is the ultimate least of his problems, since motherboards barely affect the speed of the computer.
Athlon XP 2600+ 2.1GHz 333MHz FSB
1024MB DDR PC2700
Gainward Geforce FX 5600 256MB
MSI D7N2 Delta-L Motherboard
Western Digital 80GB 7200RPM
|
|
|
|
| Re: GFX Question. [message #166391 is a reply to message #166377] |
Sun, 14 August 2005 15:07 |
 |
Scythar
Messages: 580
Registered: February 2003
Location: Finland
Karma: 0
|
Colonel |
|
|
Well they might not be the most important part there is but saying they "barely affect the speeds" is a bit harsh. If you compare some new motherboards out there you might not see much difference in performance, but if you take a new motherboard out there and a 4-year old one and compare them, you'll see a difference.
Anyway, in the end it comes down to the features, if it's old enough to only support 4x AGP instead of 8x, then we have found our problem 
AND not to forget motherboard drivers! I got frusturated with BF2 because it took about 2-3 minutes to verify the client data. (Which BF2 does after loading a map before letting you play). After trying everything else I updated my motherboard drivers, and voila: it now takes about 10 seconds to verify the data.
There's a hole in the sky through which things can fly.
[Updated on: Sun, 14 August 2005 15:10] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
| Re: GFX Question. [message #166413 is a reply to message #166064] |
Sun, 14 August 2005 23:09 |
icedog90
Messages: 3483
Registered: April 2003
Karma: 0
|
General (3 Stars) |
|
|
I was basing the motherboard thing on what he has now. If he got a brand new motherboard the difference wouldn't be so noticable. Again, a motherboard would NOT dramatically decrease his FPS like that. The difference between AGP 8x and PCI Express is actually unoticable really, since most games today don't really have support for it.
Also, I don't know why everyone keeps ignoring how I keep stating how I obtain better performance than him with an older video card.
|
|
|
|
| Re: GFX Question. [message #166560 is a reply to message #166377] |
Tue, 16 August 2005 23:37 |
JPNOD
Messages: 807
Registered: April 2004
Location: Area 51
Karma: 0
|
Colonel |
|
|
| icedog90 wrote on Sun, 14 August 2005 13:53 |
| JPNOD wrote on Sun, 14 August 2005 06:40 |
Put a AMD Sempron/Axp against a AMD 64 with a GF6800 and your fps will be significant lower.
|
Yes, but not that dramatically.
Again, the impact on a game on that might be lighter but. With a processor running behind the gfx the full potential of the gfx will never be achieved.
Also Celeron --> Sempron almost so how can it be that fast (unless overclocked.
Then seeing Sempron same as AXp pretty much.
| JPNOD wrote on Sun, 14 August 2005 06:40 |
The only way to test this is by putting in a slower GFX card. If the fps is the same it means his other pc components are running behind the graphics card.
|
| Quote: |
If you read my last post, I stated that I have a lot slower of a video card with a pretty equivalent processor and I get better performance than him.
|
Maybe he doesn't run the same sort of setup? He can say 2.6 Ghz but what if it would be a Celeron?
Also not everyone has the same kinds of software/drivers on comps. If I'd compare my slow 2.6 to a 3.4ghz in Renegade I wouldn't see the difference with the eye really. Just testing one game...
| JPNOD wrote on Sun, 14 August 2005 06:40 |
And may post your other system spec's too. Saying a 4 years old mobo. If it has a slow chip the problem lies there.
|
My motherboard is about three years old. The motherboard is the ultimate least of his problems, since motherboards barely affect the speed of the computer.
I really doubt that. But it's not the largest factor.
Athlon XP 2600+ 2.1GHz 333MHz FSB
1024MB DDR PC2700
Gainward Geforce FX 5600 256MB
MSI D7N2 Delta-L Motherboard
Western Digital 80GB 7200RPM
|
Actually I meant the system of the guy with the problems. If we see what setup he has we might be able to help him, or not 
Also just curious what card did you have before the FX5600?
WOL nick: JPNOD
|
|
|
|
| Re: GFX Question. [message #166561 is a reply to message #166391] |
Tue, 16 August 2005 23:41 |
JPNOD
Messages: 807
Registered: April 2004
Location: Area 51
Karma: 0
|
Colonel |
|
|
[quote title=Scythar wrote on Sun, 14 August 2005 18:07]
Anyway, in the end it comes down to the features, if it's old enough to only support 4x AGP instead of 8x, then we have found our problem
The Difference between AGP 4 and AGP 8x is like 1% or nothing.
It's marketing.
PCI-E is faster but again the GFX of these days now a days Don't run the bandwith it can handle anyways.
Drivers is a good one though. Also if he has like 40 processes running in the background or, some virus or whatever it can dicrease your performance drammaticly not going out that he has any of those though^
WOL nick: JPNOD
|
|
|
|
| Re: GFX Question. [message #166571 is a reply to message #166560] |
Wed, 17 August 2005 02:30 |
icedog90
Messages: 3483
Registered: April 2003
Karma: 0
|
General (3 Stars) |
|
|
| JPNOD wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 01:37 |
Also just curious what card did you have before the FX5600?
|
nVIDA Riva TNT2 16MB...
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: GFX Question. [message #167977 is a reply to message #166181] |
Sat, 27 August 2005 09:47 |
Opalkilla
Messages: 262
Registered: September 2004
Location: USA
Karma: 0
|
Recruit |
|
|
| deadfive wrote on Fri, 12 August 2005 18:31 |
The thing is...I may have to get a whole new motherboard to get anything better than my 9200 SE. Since I only have PCI. I will have to do some searching up to do.
|
Tip: Go with PCI-Express instead of AGP-shit. The Radeon X300 (which I own and would highly recommend to anyone looking for a low-budget card) is a great option.
[Updated on: Sat, 27 August 2005 09:48] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
| Re: GFX Question. [message #178055 is a reply to message #166064] |
Sat, 05 November 2005 17:10 |
icedog90
Messages: 3483
Registered: April 2003
Karma: 0
|
General (3 Stars) |
|
|
I just got the Geforce 6800 AGP 8x (not GT) and it runs CS:S COMPLETELY maxed out with 4x antialiasing and 16x anistropic filtering. It runs perfectly smooth. I think DJM definitely has a defected card or something, because even the 6800 is doing a million times better than his 6800 GT.
The CPU can't be the bottleneck either, because even my CPU is running it fine, which is just about as fast as his CPU.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Search
Help
Members
Register
Login
Home
