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| Re: OT: Lineage2 1500 Player server o.O [message #166156 is a reply to message #166095] |
Fri, 12 August 2005 12:48   |
Kaname Chidori
Messages: 1
Registered: August 2005
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It does not matter what ThePlanet says. The fact is that the L2j emulator is 100% legal in all ways. Aslong as the server does not edit the client or touch anything like that client side. The server is Legal and can not be taken down. Editing the client though is not allowed. Zunnie is running a L2j Emulator customized by St0rm. It is Legal.
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| Re: OT: Lineage2 1500 Player server o.O [message #166157 is a reply to message #166095] |
Fri, 12 August 2005 13:05 |
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xptek
Messages: 1410
Registered: August 2004
Location: USSA
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Wrong. If NCsoft intended anyone to run L2 servers, you wouldn't need to modify your HOSTS file to circumvent the NCsoft server's protection.
"NC Interactive has designed Lineage II for play only as offered by NC Interactive at the Web Site. You agree to play Lineage II only as offered by NC Interactive at the Web Site and not through any other means. You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of ‘bots’ and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input. You further agree not to create or provide any other means through which Lineage II may be played by others, as through server emulators."
Nice try though.
cause = time
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| Re: OT: Lineage2 1500 Player server o.O [message #166158 is a reply to message #166095] |
Fri, 12 August 2005 13:08 |
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zunnie
Messages: 2959
Registered: September 2003
Location: Netherlands
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"l2j is legal... so host away, and to keep yourself even safer just make sure you keep the source with the server files."
"Think about this: The server was MADE by people to look like to emulate something, BUT the source code is totally original, and in NO WAY does it say ANYWHERE that this is the real server. To give you an idea, we could call this Lime Age or Lineage but the name isnt what makes it orignal, its the code design, and as long as we arnt complete in emulation as it will almost be impossible to do, than we should be fine, and even if the name was a problem, we have already stated countless times on this site that NCSOFT is the creator of Lineage2 and that in no way do we claim rights to anything that they produce.
In America you are allowed to have competitors, and since EVERYTHING in l2j is completely original, even the concepts in CERTAIN issues ****Arguably **** Than there is NO issue with running a server that was made hand up by people doing it out of there own free will that they in no way seek to make a profit off of. THOUGH if you download another client made by someone, in this case NCSOFT, there are agreements you make that in most cases legally bind you to not use there software other than the intended purposes, specifcally or otherwise, explicitly or not, implied or not, or seen by your or not. You choose to use the software THEY made that IS completely orignal, has copy rights, along with intellectual patents, in order to fulfill some want and or need in your personal life that is present but you may only do so on the terms STATED by NCSOFT.
BUT there is a problem in NSCOFTS agreement EULA, they cant control how you use that software if it is intact and uneffected directly by the system surrounding it. So if you modify your personal system and not the file you downloaded than it is perfectly legal. In laymens terms: You cant change the software because thats illegal, but you can change its indirect surroundings, (ie the Host file).
That i believe is the angle that L2J along with the other true emulator servers take on the subject. Though i could be wrong since it was never fully explained to me, other than the common DONT MODIFY THE CLIENT saying."
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| Re: OT: Lineage2 1500 Player server o.O [message #166159 is a reply to message #166095] |
Fri, 12 August 2005 13:10 |
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xptek
Messages: 1410
Registered: August 2004
Location: USSA
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You further agree not to create or provide any other means through which Lineage II may be played by others, as through server emulators.
Do I need to spell it out for you? Running ANY L2 server is a direct violation of the license agreement.
cause = time
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| Re: OT: Lineage2 1500 Player server o.O [message #166690 is a reply to message #166095] |
Thu, 18 August 2005 01:59 |
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Goztow
Messages: 9737
Registered: March 2005
Location: Belgium
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Being an independant party in this discussion, this seems pretty illegal to me. You're playing on words but you forget that the spirit of the contract is what counts.
I think any judge will see that the developer of L2 didn't want to see this happening...
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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