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Freedom of Speach & The First Amendment. [message #15813] |
Sun, 20 April 2003 14:32   |
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Duke of Nukes | I'd rather be a communist than a Nazi...That's right...the extremes
democrats = Communists
republicans = Neo-Nazis
you're absolutely right...under the first ammendment...you can call me a communist. But on the reverse side...you could be refered to as a Nazi...and I think people would rather listen to a communist than a nazi
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Sorry to be mean but here it goes:
Read some damn history before you start your blabbing!
Nazism and Communism are not opposites. They are from the from the same source: socialism.
And maybe if you had a brain in your head, you'd realize communism would have led to the death and pain of just as much people that Nazism had. Communism is just as evil as nazism, but it just didn't have a chance to prove it to the world. Ronald Reagan put a stop to communism and rampant 20th-century liberalism (which is a unsatble mixture of socialism and universal progressiveism, BTW).
Duke of Nukes | Neo-Nazi's are all Republicans...that was the entire point I was trying to make. The worst insult you can come up with is calling someone a communist or a hippy...whereas I could call you a member of the KKKK. The entire point of what I said was to be wary of what you call people...because they can probably call you worse.
I am anti-war. Not anti-military. believe it or not...there is a difference. If I were a religious person...I would be praying for them to come home safe...but since I'm not...I'm just hoping they will.
To me...people on one side or the other of this issue scare me. There is no simple solution...just as there isn't with any difficult subject. There's a reason why there's two sides to the arguement...because it's difficult and neither choice is the right choice
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First, it's the KKK. Just because I'm white, Christian, Republican and I live in the south, that means I'm an EVIL Nazi-KKK member :rolleyes: .
So a decision is never a right one? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard. So us going into WWII after Pearl Harbor was not the "right decision"? When Moses smashed that golden idol was that not a "right decision"?
Seriously, get a brain that didn't come from a blue light special.
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Freedom of Speach & The First Amendment. [message #15875] |
Sun, 20 April 2003 18:52   |
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Duke of Nukes | thanks...seriously...no one could prove your ignorance as much as you did.
First off...it's the KKKK...Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
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Proving his ignorance with your ignorance, great strategy! :rolleyes:
They are the "Ku Klux Klan", they have been the "Ku Klux Klan" since they first started after the Civil War, only recently have they begun refering to them selves as the "Knights of the Ku Klux Klan", in addition to just plain "Ku Klux Klan".
Both acronymns are correct, but KKK is much more vastly used.
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Freedom of Speach & The First Amendment. [message #15935] |
Mon, 21 April 2003 05:25   |
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Duke of Nukes | no, it's: Neo-Nazi's = republicans. Just like Communists = Democrats
and how does that make me ignorant? I was correct...wasn't I? I never said he was wrong...I just said that I am also right. Just because KKK is the more popular saying...that doesn't mean KKKK is wrong...and that's all I was saying.
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You first said it was the KKKK.
He then corrected you, saying it was the KKK, not the KKKK
You came back, saying how he's ignorant, and that you were right, it's KKKK.
Ignorance, you failed to look into rather plain 'KKK' was correct also, instead you came back to flame him and say you were right, and he was wrong.
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Freedom of Speach & The First Amendment. [message #16079] |
Mon, 21 April 2003 14:57   |
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Duke of Nukes | I never said he was wrong for saying it's the KKK...I said he's ignorant for correcting me when I'm right. You say toe-may-toe, I say toe-mah-toe (cant really do it without saying it)
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Ok, you were both ignorant... Fair enough?
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Communism and Nazism [message #17386] |
Sun, 27 April 2003 10:53   |
dietzy
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Ok. Communism and Nazism are not the same thing. They are opposites. Complete opposites. Not in reality they aren't. But on paper they are. Communism is the people own everything. Everyone has an equal share. There is no free enterprise. No one can make lare sums of money. The government controls everything. Under Nazism there is free buisness. People are free to do as the wish. Except with Nazism, the dictator has the power to do whatever he wants. Which means that if he wants control of a buisness, he'll take it and no one will stop him. Communism is radical democratic and Nazism is radical republican. They are opposites but always in the end some mad man on a power trip ruins both for the entire country.
Dietz
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Re: Communism and Nazism [message #17500] |
Mon, 28 April 2003 04:16   |
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Commando no. 448
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NeoSaber | Here are some exact opposites:
Socialism: People serve the state.
Democracy: State serves the people.
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Yet what is the state? And interesting question. One that can easily topple your statement. The state can be considered the people, land, economy, ect... of a nation. Therefore it could become the people serve the people and the people serve the people. Not opposites at all. So you may want to correct yourself in that the people serve the government and the government serves the people. Yet even then such a black and white veiw is arguable. You just can't properly look at government in black and white. I could argue that the socailist government serves the people by ensuring that the people are made equal. And I could argue that democracy has all these problems of government officials wasting tax money (yet I do admit this can happen in socialism).
But then again I am just looking to teach lessons less then I am looking for a good discussion.
Your mind is weaker-Einsteinb (WOL, WWEXP forums, Generally everywhere I don't need a different name)
We invented statistics for people who can't keep bullets out of their head-Commando no. 448

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Re: Communism and Nazism [message #17549] |
Mon, 28 April 2003 12:58   |
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Commando no. 448
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Commando no. 448 | Yet what is the state? And interesting question. One that can easily topple your statement.
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Don't be an ass. State means government.
Commando no. 448 | I could argue that the socailist government serves the people by ensuring that the people are made equal.
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Don't make me laugh. Sure people are equal in socialism, equally enslaved by the government. It hardly serves the people to be slaves to the person in power.
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That was bad socialism. It wasn't well built in the beginning. Just like when parlament first appeared after dethroning a king it became corrupt and then it was shut down and a king was appointed. The ideal socialism is to have near equal wages (if they were totally equal no one would do unwanted jobs) and equal benefits. And we would have to rebuild society gradually. For if too many people desire to be the best over the rest then there cannot be the ideal socialism. And it would not be the job of the head of government, a special wing of the government would have to be formed to "direct" business in the right directions. We may still need boards of directors for businesses but they would have to deal more into keeping the business running then planning its future. I could go on about my theories on how to make socialism work but I won't right now.
State does not automatically mean government. Even in that context. The United Governments sounds more like an alliance of nations then one nation. Yet using it in the manner I suggested sounds much more correct.
Your mind is weaker-Einsteinb (WOL, WWEXP forums, Generally everywhere I don't need a different name)
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Freedom of Speach & The First Amendment. [message #17644] |
Tue, 29 April 2003 03:48   |
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Commando no. 448
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Ah yes. Provincial authority vs federal authority. Something I also feel strongly about. I side with federal authority. But let's not pull this topic futher off the path.
Unless you want to. I wouldn't pass up a good discussion.
Your mind is weaker-Einsteinb (WOL, WWEXP forums, Generally everywhere I don't need a different name)
We invented statistics for people who can't keep bullets out of their head-Commando no. 448

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Freedom of Speach & The First Amendment. [message #17691] |
Tue, 29 April 2003 12:33   |
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Commando no. 448
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Well is it my problem if everyone here hates my views on the world? I am here to share my views even if no one agrees. Because a view never shared is a waste of a thought.
Never gets old for me. Good practice if I want to join the debating team. I don't care if I win or lose anyway. I have a dang good time playing the game.
Your mind is weaker-Einsteinb (WOL, WWEXP forums, Generally everywhere I don't need a different name)
We invented statistics for people who can't keep bullets out of their head-Commando no. 448

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