| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142557] |
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Spice
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An act or instance of such falseness.
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The act or instance would be the promise or statement , The Falseness would be you not completing the promise or statement.
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Once again you totally misunderstand the meaning of the word. I never promised anything, nor did our team.
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No you don't understand that what you say doesn't matter. He was using the word right , Maybe with the wrong information but my point is don't tell people they are using words wrong if they are not.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142566] |
Mon, 07 March 2005 19:46 |
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So what you're saying is that even though he was wrong, he was right? This is what I mean, you live in a bizarro world. Where wrong is right, and right is wrong! Do you have troubles telling which side is left and which side is right when you try looking at your hands, too?
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That isn't even remotely what I was getting at. Let me carefuly explain it to you.
He was useing the word correctly and you are trying to tell him he wasn't because you didn't make the promise. Though he did have the wrong information he was still using it right because he was using the information he thought you were right. That doesn't mean he was using the word wrong just because he had the wrong information.
There you go.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142569] |
Mon, 07 March 2005 19:47 |
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Titan1x77
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It seemed to me that if this would have been the case it would of been alot more fun to play aswell....I didn't enjoy the way RA played aswell.
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Apparently you don't like Command & Conquer or its gameplay style, as it's exactly the same as Red Alert in both damage systems and unit balance.
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But this is a FPS...Not a RTS.
Renegade wouldn't of been fun if there was a commander telling us where we could go and what vehicles we could buy etc..
Yea I get your point that the damage system and unit balance was like that in the RTS, but what you'll never understand is this is a different Genre of a game. as you have always tried to make it exactly the same as the RTS version.
Im sure you could hit the nail right on the head one of these days with what you desire from your RA APB....but really how fun is it going to be for the players(other then YOURSELF!)??
"But if the gameplay sucks, the looks don't matter at all." - Sir Phoenixx
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142578] |
Mon, 07 March 2005 20:16 |
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Aircraftkiller
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So what if it's a FPS? Red Alert would still play exactly like Red Alert even if infantry could climb over the ridges and swim through the water. Gunboats would still shoot them if they swam in the water, and vehicles would still shoot them if they climbed over ridges.
You only use that argument because you have no logical reason as to why you can't keep C&C gameplay. Renegade would have been a lot more fun if someone was controlling your team and giving you orders of where to go and how to do it.
How fun is it? Well seeing as how Renegade Alert kept around 2,000 unique players a month with the n00bstories server totally full most of the time, or at least with over 10 people, I'd say it was a lot better than Reborn ever could have been.
People dropped Rebran: The Ultimate Bran Cereal not even two weeks after it was released. No patches, no support, no nothing after the release. When we saw something was wrong, we patched it, and thus people played. They enjoyed C&C, and they enjoyed Red Alert. Why wouldn't they enjoy Renegade Alert when the gameplay balance is exactly like Red Alert? That's the point of converting something. Even if it's in first person and not an overhead view, you don't have to be a pinhead idiot about it and change everything so that it doesn't feel like Command & Conquer anymore.
So fucking what if it wouldn't be fun to you if a commander was there? Do you instantly assume that since people like C&C gameplay, that they have to be controlled by someone else to get all the benefits of C&C balance, units, and damages? There is absolutely no reason why you can't take Tiberian Sun's rules.ini and translate it over to Renegade. There's no reason why you can't use TS units and structures without adding ones that make no fucking sense whatosever.
What you would have people do is take a legendary game like the original Command & Conquer and turn it into another Renegade... Something that died within two years of its initial release, losing 95% of its players within that timeframe. Going from over 70,000 players to having less than 3,000 as the numbers playing it continue to dwindle. People like you are most likely a reason why EA will not make another game like Renegade, because it sucked and did not create a substantial profit.
Sure it might be fun to have flying penis mobiles, and totally rape the story and gameplay of what you're trying to recreate... But guess what, it wouldn't be fucking Command & Conquer anymore after you did it.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142603] |
Mon, 07 March 2005 22:00 |
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And we are not going to give up. No matter how much we are ridiculed and shot down. We are trying our best even if it is crap to everyone.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142612] |
Mon, 07 March 2005 23:13 |
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Titan1x77
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How is Reborn still failing?
You Can't Fail until you have tried...and we havent even put out a beta yet!
The old Reborn mod was put together by a completely different team...so you can't compare the two except for the fact they have the same name, and is a mod based off of the same game other then that everything is new and different.
"But if the gameplay sucks, the looks don't matter at all." - Sir Phoenixx
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142613] |
Mon, 07 March 2005 23:38 |
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Aircraftkiller
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Yes, you have. There's a public beta test already out. And since I have your internal files I'll be uploading them to various sites so people can first hand see how little you've done, and how much of a BS show it is.
The old Reborn is the same thing as the new Reborn. It has the same graphical quality. The "old" team was switched up every month. This one is switched up often as well. You can't produce anything of quality because you can't even coordinate your efforts. You know there's something wrong when people like you don't know what your team is doing, and furthermore have to actually ask them to do things for you in public where everyone can see it.
Gbull please... Please stop being retarded. We gave the community a playable release every time we released something. 990 was playable, so was 991, 9915, 992, 9925, 993, and 9932. I don't understand why you ignored my points pertaining to this, but we didn't have around 2,000 unique players a month because we didn't make a playable release consistently.
A version number is still a number. You can't simply focus on a number and say that something wasn't finished. While it's true that we didn't go past 9932, that's irrelevant, if we had called 9932 the 1.0 release instead, you would still complain and would find something else to label it. I spent two years giving people like you something to play - if you're going to talk about it, the least you can do is spend 30 seconds and know what the hell you're babbling about.
If you don't believe a word I'm saying, go download the 993 installer and patch it to 9932, then go play it in LAN or on WOL if you can find any players there. HL2 sucked out most of the community in Renegade, so we initially moved there, then after "something" happened with Dante, we moved to Battlefield 2. Either way we never did anything for Source, and we never threw anything away for Renegade Alert, as it's still playable and I often read forum posts here where people organize games and play with others often. I rely on word of mouth as I don't play Renegade or anything using its engine anymore.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142620] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 00:33 |
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Titan1x77
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Yes, you have. There's a public beta test already out. And since I have your internal files I'll be uploading them to various sites so people can first hand see how little you've done, and how much of a BS show it is.
The old Reborn is the same thing as the new Reborn. It has the same graphical quality. The "old" team was switched up every month. This one is switched up often as well. You can't produce anything of quality because you can't even coordinate your efforts. You know there's something wrong when people like you don't know what your team is doing, and furthermore have to actually ask them to do things for you in public where everyone can see it.
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Theres no public beta available for "this" reborn....thats the link to the old version from the 1st team...if you want to affiliate it with the new reborn go ahead.
Big deal you have a few Internal files, what are you going to do use them and make your own Reborn, Spread em around the web I dont care.....it's not like anyone is going to do anything with a few texture maps.
why do you insist that I don't know whats going on?...you've said that before and still it makes no sense....Just because They asked me in public doesnt mean I dont know whats going on....what, people can't communicate in public?
If this was my mod I'd issue a beta for everyone at any stage....what bad can come out of it?...that's right, none!
"But if the gameplay sucks, the looks don't matter at all." - Sir Phoenixx
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142621] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 00:39 |
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Oblivion165
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I say give reborn another good change. They could very well have some good stuff to offer.
WOL: Ob165ion Skype: Oblivion165 Yahoo Instant Messenger: CaptainJohn165
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142623] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 00:49 |
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IRON FART
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How do you have these internal files? Were they leaked along with that image that Renardin wanted to sue over?
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Quote from IRC
<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
<[Digital]> ah fuck wrong window
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142628] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 01:25 |
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You really feel THAT insucure about us? You are NOT threating us with our own work. It will eventualy be released when we relase the mod and It's not like anything you release the public can actually use.
None of the vehicles are setup for in-game use.
None of the characters are setup for in-game use.
None of the building models you have are being used. Only I have them.
You can release what you want , The only difference is the public can see first person at what they have already seen.
Your not going to stop us from completing this mod not matter how hard you try buddy.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142629] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 01:25 |
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Titan1x77
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This isn't some Company work here idiot...it's only a fucking game....Recon warz didn't fail because of any reason other then I lost Intrest, releasing any files(the very few) for that mod would of had no affect on it....Just like if you Released all of the source files for Renalert even at stages where you had just finished a new building or a new map...doesnt matter what it was it still wouldn't hurt anything....since we arent selling anything here dummy.
Ever think we dont want assholes like you commenting on everything we do...that's the only reason for a private forum idiot...to keep idiotic flames out from the topic and keep the discussion mature.
You having those files have no impact on this mod except a positive one.
I want you to prove that those files could hurt this mod........
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"But if the gameplay sucks, the looks don't matter at all." - Sir Phoenixx
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142637] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 04:10 |
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Completely ignore the fact that we were the only team that worked in Renegade which produced anything more than "We'll do this or that but we're really not doing anything at all!"
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I seem to know of another group that is producing "stuff" for Renegade that actually releases an end product...
I'm the bawss.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142638] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 04:12 |
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This is the most pathetic thing i have ever seen anyone post , other then Tyler when final Renegade was released. I thought Aircraftkiller was an adult, not a little child, im not sure what kind of agenda he has. If trying to ruin another mod, by constantly bashing and hating is a highlight in an average day of yours then you sure as hell shouldn't be on a computer. I can remember how mad Aircraftkiller got when someone had a sub test from Renalert. I just can't belive you dont think your a hypocrite either, just look at what you type.
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I rely on word of mouth as I don't play Renegade or anything using its engine anymore.
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So if you have These so called models of reborns, then how can you even say that? You dont associate with its engine so what would even posses you to download leaked, or not files of something that is based on the W3d engine.
Get a fucking clue, what your doing is pathetic, or attemtping to do in that case. Obviously you don't know that people who tend to leak files dont get much respect at all, or little to none, and you certainly won't change peoples opinions just from showing us models we will end up seeing either way. You shouldn't be hoping for renalert not to get leaked after you do something like that, or even talk about it, as i certainly remember you banning people from the renalert forums just for saying they would leak a file. Your a hypocrite in every way and form, but you have a mental problem that makes you pick out words that are spelt wrong rather then awnsering the real questions.[/quote]
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142640] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 04:57 |
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Aircraftkiller
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Completely ignore the fact that we were the only team that worked in Renegade which produced anything more than "We'll do this or that but we're really not doing anything at all!"
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I seem to know of another group that is producing "stuff" for Renegade that actually releases an end product...
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You know what I meant, I was talking about modifying the game instead of making an anti-cheat program.
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I can remember how mad Aircraftkiller got when someone had a sub test from Renalert.
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I didn't get mad at all... I didn't really care to begin with. I simply didn't want it distributed because it would give people a bad idea of what we were doing based on a simple test level. If it had been something near fully featured like Shallow Grave, then I wouldn't have protested.
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Get a fucking clue, what your doing is pathetic, or attemtping to do in that case. Obviously you don't know that people who tend to leak files dont get much respect at all, or little to none, and you certainly won't change peoples opinions just from showing us models we will end up seeing either way.
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You have to ask yourself "if he doesn't care about how we feel, what makes me think he cares if we respect him?"
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Your a hypocrite in every way and form
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Nope, not at all. If you punched someone five years ago, then got punched in another eight years, (using your logic) you'd be a hypocrite for objecting to being punched. It simply doesn't work that way. You only contradicted your previous stance on punching people, that it was okay for you to do it... But once someone punched you, then it changed and you didn't like it too much.
If it were up to you, everyone changing their opinion would be a hypocrite. It doesn't work that way you retard. You want to know why? Because you're a hypocrite too if that logic is sound (Which it isn't), because not only did you bash Reborn constantly with me, you were spending a lot of time exploiting it last year to piss people off.
So either you had a change of heart, or you're a hypocrite... Either way you still contradicted your previous stance on the matter.
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