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Renardin6 is currently offline  Renardin6
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I would like to make a legal pursuit against Jonathan D. Holmes for using private work of my mod and posting it on the internet.

How should I start this ?

http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/index.php?showtopic=5959
He is making fun of something I didn't released for good reasons...

I took a screenshot of the page, and recorded the source so I have proof. Now I want to go further and have him to the court.

I never gave my permission to JD holmes to use or download any of my work. He has to pay.


They used a hack on phpbb ( 2.0.13 needed or you will be hacked too ) to gain access to internal board, thx god they think we use only that place and so found only old files it seems...)


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Hi everyone,

phpBB Group announces the release of phpBB 2.0.13, the "Beware of the furries" edition. This release addresses two recent security exploits, one of them critical. They were reported a few days after .12 was released and no one is more annoyed than us, having to release a new version in such a short period of time.
Fortunately both fixes are easy and in each case just one line needs to be edited.

The first issue is critical (session handling allowing everyone gaining administrator rights) and we urge you to fix it on your forums as soon as possible:

Open includes/sessions.php

Find:
Code:
if( $sessiondata['autologinid'] == $auto_login_key )

Replace with:
Code:
if( $sessiondata['autologinid'] === $auto_login_key )



A second minor issue reported to bugtraq several days ago was the path disclosure bug in viewtopic.php which got fixed by applying the following steps:

Open viewtopic.php

Find:
Code:
$message = str_replace('\"', '"', substr(preg_replace('#(\>(((?>([^><]+|(?R)))*)\<))#se', "preg_replace('#\b(" . $highlight_match . ")\b#i', '<span style=\"color:#" . $theme['fontcolor3'] . "\">\\\\1</span>', '\\0')", '>' . $message . '<'), 1, -1));

Replace with:
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$message = str_replace('\"', '"', substr(@preg_replace('#(\>(((?>([^><]+|(?R)))*)\<))#se', "@preg_replace('#\b(" . $highlight_match . ")\b#i', '<span style=\"color:#" . $theme['fontcolor3'] . "\">\\\\1</span>', '\\0')", '>' . $message . '<'), 1, -1));



As with all new releases we urge you to upgrade as soon as possible. You can of course find this download available on our downloads page. As per usual three packages are available to simplify your upgrade.


I see my uncle this afternoon, he is a judge at the european court.

Anyway, you have still a few hours to remove the pic and tell us who did that or we will have to attack you. I removed you from ignore list to get your answer. The ball is your camp now. Move ya ass.
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I believe some action like this is totally necasary.

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Renardin6 is currently offline  Renardin6
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action agaisnt : Jonathan D. Holmes. Niceville, Florida. USA.
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If it can be done, Renardin will do it, If ACK was able to take action against Joey for the URL hijack, I think something can be done against him for that act of slander. I mean the the skin was still WIP, hence it wasn't released to the public.

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PsycoArmy

I believe some action like this is totally necasary.


Ditto.
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Oh no I've just been banned from the precious RenAlert forum, dear god whatever am I going to do Laughing

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Banned? Not to my knowledge.

Legal action? Laughing Good luck. You put your work in a public directory where one of my forum members found all of your artwork assets. I simply posted one of the most horrible pieces of shit you made up for everyone to see, and now you cry foul?

There's no legal basis for any claim you could make with this. Joey was infringing on our intellectual copyright by violating the standards set forth for registering domain names. Since we're not taking your domain name after it expires, there's absolutely nothing you can do except pull your head out of your collective asses and learn how to put your files in a secure location where someone like fatcat can't just waltz in; he downloaded whatever he wanted because not only was the folder unprotected, the files weren't either.

You're a bunch of retards.
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As are you, I've never encountered anyone who needs to bash other people's (WIP) work as you do. I beg your pardon, a temporary suspension because I stated the facts, and allow me to retort, you are an arsehole.

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Probably because you don't get out much to find more than the people that agree with your line of thought.
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I get out a fair bit my friend, it seems as though you're the one with issues not me, don't blame me because you're an arsehole.

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What issues? Are you psychic, able to tell that someone has "issues" because they think your work looks like a field full of cow manure? For all that getting out you do, it's surprising you haven't found anyone but me that thinks Reborn is total garbage.
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I saw him laugh on his forum. Let's see how long time he will.

I see my uncle tomorrow. He told me we might do something.

Let's see then.

Anyway he told me to go the police on monday to report the stuff. I will do it.

Edit: And as I read your post now, I warn you : I am not joking. I am serious.
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Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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Yeah, you'll do something... If by that you mean you'll do nothing at all, because there's no law in existence that covers what you're complaining about.

Please take pictures when the police tell you to leave because they have actual crimes to worry about.

Know why I said that? Because I haven't done anything illegal. Blaming me for showing a piece of shit texture you placed in a public folder that was discovered by someone else is like blaming spoons for making Rosie O'Donnell fat.

No one stole anything you made. Like the idiot you are, you allowed your team's work to be placed in an insecure folder... Now you're going to go to the police? Laughing

Your idiocy knows no bounds!
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Get a fucking life you cock sucker mother fucker!



(that was aimed at the cock sucking monkey we call ACK)


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I would like to make a legal pursuit against Jonathan D. Holmes for using private work of my mod and posting it on the internet.

Lol, you can't, he hasn't done anything illegal. Firstly, he didn't get it from the server, Fatcat did, they both said that he did a couple times in that thread. He isn't using your private work. And posting your texture on the internet isn't illegal.

Even what Fatcat did wasn't illegal, he didn't break into it and steal it since it's a public folder (not passworded), anyone could have.

Besides it being Aircraftkiller and that he posted your texture, why is this such a big deal? It's completely worthless without the model the UVW mapping was made for.


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WNxCABAL

Get a fucking life you cock sucker mother fucker!



(that was aimed at the cock sucking monkey we call ACK)



Now now.. no need to act like a children by using such words.


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Thank you for your wonderful insight into this topic, WNxCABAL. Without your assistance I wouldn't have been able to show that you had nothing to contribute - nothing of value whatsoever!

How would we have known that CABAL would not have written anything of worth to anyone but himself had he not come in here to show us all? Thank you CABAL, you're the shining example that all other morons should adhere to.
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Sir Phoenixx


Besides it being Aircraftkiller and that he posted your texture, why is this such a big deal? It's completely worthless without the model the UVW mapping was made for.


I don't care. He wasn't allowed to use this or post it on the internet.
Well don't worry if you think we can't do anything :rolleyes: . KTHX.
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Too bad you really can't do anything.

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And your point is? Before you complain about me posting a single craptacular texture you made, rememeber you've actually violated international law several times by taking my portraits and editing them. As far as I can remember, with my memory being as unreliable as it is at 7:30 AM, you've made about six edited versions of my portraits... All done without my consent, and all done in an attempt to harass and defame my person.

That violates Internet harassment laws, if you didn't realize it before. Be sure to mention that part to your uncle, and especially to the police, right before they laugh at you for wasting their time.
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Renardin6

Well don't worry if you think we can't do anything :rolleyes: . KTHX.

What I think you can or can't do about it has nothing to do with this, you simply can't do anything legally about it.


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Renardin6

I would like to make a legal pursuit against Jonathan D. Holmes for using private work of my mod and posting it on the internet.



If he actually uses it on any of his work, then yes: perhaps you'd have some legal recourse. However, posting a picture of it on a website does not constutiute "use".

Making a vehicle, putting it on, then distributing it... that would be "use"

If it indeed was a secure place, then perhaps you have some recourse against them for that action.

Edit: quick reminder... Lawsuits cost money, lots of money. So if you are willing to spend the required funds to attempt a lawsuit, then thats your prerogative.
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wait & see. Might not work OR might work...

Anyway for the harassment part... let me tell you one point : 'reborn sucks...kthx'
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Not only that, the only "evidence" you have is a recording and a picture. The court won't take that too seriously because of programs like Adobe Photoshop, if you know what I mean. Even though you didn't doctor anything, you'd still need more proof.

Also, if someone doesn't have their files stored in a secure place, then that's not an excuse to steal them. The fact is, is that the file was still on his server, so taking the file from it and publicly using it could be illegal, regardless if it was not securely stored.
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But he didn't use it, he just put it on display.

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