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| Canada's role in world politics [message #141408] |
Tue, 01 March 2005 20:28   |
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warranto
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Alberta, Canada
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Meh, Canadian politics is a necessary evil. There are NO good choises available. Harper, umm no. I've never much cared for the Alliance. Martain is our former finance minister when it wasn't his fault that finances were misappropriated. And the NDP is, well, the NDP. Meanwhile, Canada's richest province (Alberta) has a preimier who love to screw with us. 11 billion surplus last year, and an additional 4 billion this year (16 billion), yet nothng good is comming from.
Canada is a great place to live, but the politics need an overhaul.
And if people can live in Alert, they can live anywhere in Canada....
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| Canada's role in world politics [message #141659] |
Thu, 03 March 2005 13:40 |
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Javaxcx
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Canada, eh?
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It's not an issue whether or not Canada gets into a major war... Its mainly to lead aid quickly/effectivily and to defend against attack!
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We do give aid effectively. Now, before you retort, the dispatching of our military has just about nothing to do with how it is funded. The necessary forces can be sent in a matter of days; processed in a number of hours upon request (depending on severity). You can blame the liberals for the shoddy show in Sudan, it is pretty much their own fault.
As for defending against an attack; well, we need an attacker to defend against. The last "terrorist" attack in Canada was during the October Crisis, and it was hardly a matter worthy of 20,000 soldiers armed with golden C7A1s. The FLQ was a few men with fewer followers, and the political upheavel they caused was because of their select actions against select politicians.
Now, that isn't to say Bin Laden and his cronnies won't try and attack here. They could probably do so pretty effectively-- but why would they? So they can get another 20,000 or so people with assault rifles angry at them? Even terrorists have some kind of reasoning, often fallaciously deduced, behind their attacks. It's why they attacked the world TRADE centre, and the pentagon, and hopes of taking out the main political points of the American system. There just simply aren't any targets of interest of that proportion in Canada shy of Parliment... and MOST of the time it's EMPTY!
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| Canada's role in world politics [message #141668] |
Thu, 03 March 2005 14:32 |
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splnwezel
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Registered: October 2004
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
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How did the Liberals win the last election? Well, when you screw over half the country and lavish the other half with tax breaks, you're bound to return. I'm from Saskatchewan, where most people here voted Conservative.
And while many will say that the military is drastically underfunded... I will say that they are underfunded, but not nearly as bad as everyone thinks. Their recent acquisition of submarines was a PR nightmare. Their equipment is more likely to be the source of soldier fatality than enemy fire.
And when a liberal government is running the show, you will undoubtedly find that money that should be spent on more important matters is spent on crap that noone cares about (ie: gun registry).
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into Orca engines...
[GDE]splnwezel
http://www.gdeclan.net
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| Canada's role in world politics [message #141687] |
Thu, 03 March 2005 16:17 |
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Cities are built on flat land, Canadian Shield =! flat land.
That's why the population is concentrated on the border.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Canada's role in world politics [message #141702] |
Thu, 03 March 2005 17:37 |
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splnwezel
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Registered: October 2004
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
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the gun registry is a good idea in theory... but when it comes to implementation... that's why it's costing us so much.
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into Orca engines...
[GDE]splnwezel
http://www.gdeclan.net
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| Canada's role in world politics [message #141753] |
Thu, 03 March 2005 23:19 |
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Hydra
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Registered: September 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Have the Tories say what they will, our military is pretty much fine the way it is in our current situation in the world.
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I think the author's point was that Canada's current situation in the world is, quite frankly, meaningless (that's just my interpretation of what he said and certainly mean no offense by it), and one of the reasons for that was a vastly underfunded military characterized in the editorial this way:
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The recent deployment of our Disaster Assistance Response Team (DART) to tsunami-stricken Southeast Asia was a telling example. Our deployment was tiny and came almost two weeks after the Americans and Australians sent in their own larger forces. The spectacle mocked the government's boast that "Canada is among the most generous international donors to respond to this disaster with humanitarian and early recovery assistance."
Why were we so late compared with other nations? Like the rest of our military, DART is underfunded. Lacking their own transport planes, the team's members had to wait while a deal was struck to rent Russian aircraft. As the chart below shows, we spend a smaller share of our national wealth on military obligations than any NATO nation except tiny Luxembourg and Iceland (which has no military at all).
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It's simultaneously funny and not funny. The Canadian military had to rent Russian transport planes just to deliver aid two weeks late.
Canada's role in international politics is, again, frankly but with no offense intended, quite inconsequential. About the only thing it may have going for itself is economic ties to the U.S.; correct me if you feel I'm wrong, though.
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Call it pre-9/11 thinking if you will, but if you live in post-9/11 world forever, you'll burn yourself out. Especially when your country's size is bigger than that of America.
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Call it post-9/11 thinking if you will, but if you live in a pre-9/11 world forever, you'll get blown up by state-sponsored Islamic terrorist groups. Especially when your country is one of America's biggest trading partners and believe in many of the same freedoms that make those terrorists so angry at your nation in the first place.
Walter Keith Koester: September 22, 1962 - March 15, 2005
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| Canada's role in world politics [message #141819] |
Fri, 04 March 2005 13:33 |
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Javaxcx
Messages: 1943
Registered: February 2003
Location: Canada, eh?
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I think the author's point was that Canada's current situation in the world is, quite frankly, meaningless (that's just my interpretation of what he said and certainly mean no offense by it), and one of the reasons for that was a vastly underfunded military characterized in the editorial this way:
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I was referring to the Tories in general, actually.
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It's simultaneously funny and not funny. The Canadian military had to rent Russian transport planes just to deliver aid two weeks late.
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That's right. It is disgraceful, and I just about entirely blame our current government for it.
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Canada's role in international politics is, again, frankly but with no offense intended, quite inconsequential. About the only thing it may have going for itself is economic ties to the U.S.; correct me if you feel I'm wrong, though.
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I would like to think that our country holds a kind of standard that other countries who are not super powers would try and strive for. Canada isn't a world superpower, but we do PRETTY damn good for one who isn't, and that is generally the goal the Canadian government, regardless of bias, strives for on the international level.
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Call it post-9/11 thinking if you will, but if you live in a pre-9/11 world forever, you'll get blown up by state-sponsored Islamic terrorist groups. Especially when your country is one of America's biggest trading partners and believe in many of the same freedoms that make those terrorists so angry at your nation in the first place.
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Equally valid.
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| Canada's role in world politics [message #145001] |
Mon, 21 March 2005 17:40 |
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Pak
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada
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Paul Martin A.k.a. Mr Dithers is a Fucking Moron and The Fact I Worked for The Liberals this Past Year and has been a Supporter for 10 Years and Seeing Paul Cause a Mass Infighting in the party, Making Huge Divisons in it Was a Complete Mistake Letting Him be Leader and a Waste of The Liberal Party's time. I Personally Liked Jean Chretien He was Candid and More Truthful on shit and The Fact Paul Fucking Lied to people's faces at The Liberal Policy Convention on the Issue of BMD while his Friend and US Ambassador Continues to say "We Are" in Missile Defence. I Hope Mr. Dithers Doesn't Last Long as Leader and Prime Minister. I Hope John Manley Will Return and Helm The Party in a Chretien/Trudeau Direction.
Some FACT on Paul Martin
1. He Runs Liberal Party of Canada Like Hitler and dosen't let anyone critize Him on Anything.
2. He Fucking Split the Liberal Party of Canada.
3. He Supports BMD but Lies to People Saying No To It.
4. He Took Over Riding Associations and Provincal Executives.
5. Kisses Young Liberals Asses for Votes and Uses Them as Tools at Leadership and Other Conventions.
Chairman and CEO of Pak Incorporated.
Member of the Liberal Party of Canada.
Member of the Liberal Party of British Columbia.
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