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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137564]

Thu, 10 February 2005 18:44

Alkaline
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I have seen/heard complaints about some way people are getting stealth med tanks and flame tanks, even arties..

Is this something to do with SSAOW? I know it has stealth crate but I was under the impression it made your particular character stealth, does this apply to vehicles also? Question

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137610]

Thu, 10 February 2005 23:10

zunnie
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If you get a stealth crate, the first vehicle that you buy or enter gets stealthed.

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137623]

Fri, 11 February 2005 02:06

idebo
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Commander

I love that, doing it with a APC then fill it, and rush. They never know what hit them.

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137634]

Fri, 11 February 2005 04:49

Spoony_old
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unbalanced as hell... there's a reason the Stank is the only stealthed vehicle... if you notice, without its stealth ability it's a hunk of junk... when you give stealth capabilities to a med, arty, apache... it's just wrong

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137636]

Fri, 11 February 2005 04:52

zunnie
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You can disable Stealth crates in the [Crates] config.
Set Stealth=0 and it wont spawn again, just make sure that the
total sum of [Crates] setup is 100.

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137655]

Fri, 11 February 2005 06:38

danpaul88
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i think it makes the game more enjoyable, because if only nod can use stealth units then nod dont have to bother looking out for stealth units, whearas now both teams are as risk from stealth units.

Although i agree stealth meds might be too much of an advantage, maybe you could change it to make vehicles that are stealthed lose some armour and health?

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137663]

Fri, 11 February 2005 07:45

Majiin Vegeta
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fear the Stealth mamoth tank Shocked

Shocked

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137668]

Fri, 11 February 2005 08:20

ghostSWT
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Majiin Vegeta

fear the Stealth mamoth tank Shocked

Shocked

fear the Stealth transport chopers on walls_flying
and the Stealth Apachy/Orca on city_flying

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137672]

Fri, 11 February 2005 08:37

WNxCABAL
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danpaul88

i think it makes the game more enjoyable, because if only nod can use stealth units then nod dont have to bother looking out for stealth units, whearas now both teams are as risk from stealth units.

That is true, but isn't the crate rare? because I don't think that Nod will be expecting a stealth rush unless GDI steal alot of their Stanks, or GDI get very lucky with the crates.
You would be at fear of rushes with alot, but with 1 or 2 hanging around, I think it is unlikely.

Andy

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137728]

Fri, 11 February 2005 18:47

Wyld1USA
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I would vote "yes" to remove the "crate" all together and go back to the money boxes. Just doesn't feel right and has dramatically changed this game. May as well put all vehicles on the purchase terminals for both sides.

The days of running to the 200 Money Box on Mesa and killing those before you to get it and have an Arti or Mrl out is over. I run up there and see that and bum out. Maybe you get the 255 credits, the GOD character, or possibly an enemy tank, but most of the time you get a buggy or humvee, which can be used, but not the tactic I want to go with.

I watch peeps sit on the crate now just seeing what they get over and over at the beggining of the game.

Sorry, just my opinion, but it has pretty much caused me to stay out of public servers and only play in clan wars for my clan. Which is sad because public servers can be fun, but only a few left that don't have this. Sad

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137735]

Fri, 11 February 2005 19:55

zunnie
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http://www.fanmaps.net/downloads/renegade/fds/brenbot/objects_wreckfix_yellowcrates.zip

This will return the yellow boxes instead of the Metal Crates.
It also stops ppl from getting points for repairing wreckages and base
defenses now ignore it.

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137739]

Fri, 11 February 2005 20:16

Chronojam
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Spoony

unbalanced as hell... there's a reason the Stank is the only stealthed vehicle... if you notice, without its stealth ability it's a hunk of junk... when you give stealth capabilities to a med, arty, apache... it's just wrong

You'd love to see what some servers are running. I forget which server, but I was in one a while ago that gave Stealth Tanks a passenger seat.

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137744]

Fri, 11 February 2005 20:22

ghostSWT
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Chronojam

....that gave Stealth Tanks a passenger seat

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137745]

Fri, 11 February 2005 20:22

zunnie
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Yea , and it owns lol Smile

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137748]

Fri, 11 February 2005 20:38

IronWarrior
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lol sure does zunnie, having a guy with a nuke deploy it as you cover in astank owns Razz

Razz

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137750]

Fri, 11 February 2005 20:43

zunnie
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IWarriors

lol sure does zunnie, having a guy with a nuke deploy it as you cover in astank owns Razz

Razz

Exactly

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137757]

Fri, 11 February 2005 21:14

Chronojam
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Colonel

IWarriors

lol sure does zunnie, having a guy with a nuke deploy it as you cover in astank owns Razz

Razz

It's more rewarding in my opinion to pull it off yourself, or with your covering fire from a team of real snipers or other fellows who infiltrated the enemy base without riding your glory all the way there =P

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137758]

Fri, 11 February 2005 21:20

Wyld1USA
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Commander

Quote:

dramatically changed this game

And I qoute myself, can't say it enough.

Quote:

It's more rewarding in my opinion to pull it off yourself

Teamwork is one thing, but I totally agree with the above. The rush is doing it alone, or the old fashioned way with "teamwork".

When you get that Stank in base and can get 2 buildings or even 3 (City Flying, wf, ref, and pp) with Tech, Nuke and Stank, man I get a woodie, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. Cool

Cool

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137764]

Fri, 11 February 2005 22:57

Crimson
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I agree with you WyldOne. I think the "special" crate has changed too much. I, for one, will be sticking with things that don't change the balance of the game. I won't upgrade to the latest Core Patch for servers until they fix the problem where you can't disable crates. I don't want them. I think Renegade is great just the way it was. I'm all for fixing sound bugs like Obelisk charge-up, emoticons, stuff like that. The n00bstories servers will always stay true to the original Renegade. You might also want to check out The Pits on WOL, they run half-renguard mode and do not have any crazy modifications, either.

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137777]

Sat, 12 February 2005 02:22

Spoony_old
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Registered: December 2004

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Stank with a passenger seat is just wrong, it's worse than having a stealth med, stealth apache or a stealth arty, there is a reason the stank is the only stealth vehicle, and there is a reason it can only carry one player

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137784]

Sat, 12 February 2005 04:59

Blazer
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Can't Nod see stealthed GDI vehicles, just as they can see their own?

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137789]

Sat, 12 February 2005 05:20

Spoony_old
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No, I was in a server on Hourglass me being Nod, I APC rushed over the hill because the base looked empty... then a stealthed med appeared next to the AGT, he was completely invisible from my point of view until he opened fire

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137863]

Sat, 12 February 2005 14:57

Chronojam
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Blazer

Can't Nod see stealthed GDI vehicles, just as they can see their own?

You can only see your own stealth-equipped teammates.

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137946]

Sat, 12 February 2005 21:46

cmatt42
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I like the crate; it makes it feel more like Tiberian Dawn.

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Stealth flame tanks and Stealth Med tanks? [message #137956]

Sat, 12 February 2005 23:51

Wyld1USA
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I like the crate; it makes it feel more like Tiberian Dawn.

Not to sound rude at all, as I am not trying to be, but then go play it. Cool

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