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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134882] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:15 Go to next message
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Just something i wrote a little blog entry for and was wondering on your points of view and what you think of mine Smile

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The other day at school, we got on the subject on if being sentenced to die is correct or if we should abolish it. Everyone in the class went one way or the other with out any real thought besides me. wassat

Okay, tell me this. Why can a Man/Woman take a child, rape it, kill it in the most vial , painful way you can think of. The victum goes though the worst pain you can imagine, things that you don't even want to think of. Screaming for help , but the cries go unheard. THen they are thrown into a lake and left there for months until the body is finaly recovered.

Then, their murderer is found. He is brought in front of a jury of his / her peers and sentenced to die by leathal injection. A process that does not hurt AT ALL thanks to the drugs they give you before they actually proceed killing you. You basicly go to sleep as peacefully as can be. In a thought , the cards have been delt and the peice of scum has died, justice served in some's eyes, mine not being one of them.

Okay, tell me this. WHY should someone that could do this to a child, or anyone for that matter , for NO reason what so ever, put someone else through so much pain, and the family of freinds included and then get to die so peacefully? WHY? This is where my view gets a tad twisted, but follow me.

I belive they should have to go through pain, i mean absolute boarderline torture. The fuckers do NOT deserve rights, they took a life, a beutiful life, one of Gods creations. They didn't give that poor dieing woman /man / child the right to life, they stole that from them in the most brutal of ways. THEY SHOULD NOT BE GIVING THE PLEASURE OF DIEING WITH A GOD DAMN NEEDLE THAT PUTS THEM TO SLEEP. They shouldn't even be gave a last meal, a last phone call, nothing. That would be nice, and these people are not NICE.

"Well, what way would YOU suggest changing this??" wassat

People always complain "Well it cost so much to put someone to death, it will cost less to let them live" Have you ever taken your head out of your ass and thought of why??? I'll tell you why, Its because of all of the money we spend on giving them the last meals, last phone calls, THE DRUGS WE USE TO KILL THEM!!!.

How do we fix this? Eaisly. Instead of housing them for YEARS and then using leathal injection. We put a gun to there ear and pull the trigger. Our cost would drop DRAMATICLY. 1 bullet per custumor, we let them bleed to death, no last meal, no last phone call, the sentence is carried out a max 2 months after it has been decided the guilty will die.


wink Just my thoughts.

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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134883] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well its carried out for the most part in a humane way. I wouldn't sentence someone to death if I was a judge. Plus, I think life in a prison is much worse.

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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134884] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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While I find myself agreeing with you, I must disagree with your seventh paragraph. It isn't just the meal, phone calls, and lethal drugs that drives the cost up, it's the years of appeals. Each court case costs money, and who pays for it? The government. This is where most of the costs come from. As you suggested, the execution date should be moved up a lot. I wouldn't go as far as saying 2 months because this doesn't leave enough time to double check the evidence to ensure that they are, in fact, putting the right person to death for the crime they have been charged.


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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134885] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IRON-FART

Well its carried out for the most part in a humane way. I wouldn't sentence someone to death if I was a judge. Plus, I think life in a prison is much worse.


I agree 100%. If I was found guilty of killing 200 people in cold blood, and I was faced with the death sentence or a life in prison...that's a no brainer right there. I don't agree with the death penalty because you're just doing the guy a favor.
Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134887] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well its carried out for the most part in a humane way. I wouldn't sentence someone to death if I was a judge. Plus, I think life in a prison is much worse.


Yea, humane is not something these people deserve though. THey are hate breeding bastards who deserve to die in the most vial way possible.

Life in prison is worse yes, but know why? Because they go through ZERO pain when they die. MAbey if we maid death penelty a little worse , then you could say well i think death penelty is worse Smile Also i dis-agree with life prision enless its in an 8 x 5 cell with NO TV , no special meals, no visits, nothin. They live live there life with nothing but a bed a toilet (thats me being nice ) and a large black man named tiny.


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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134889] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If they spend life in prison, they live in fear. I mean, you are housed with tons of other criminals, who could potentially attack you. Have you seen that part in the Shawshank Redemption where Andy Dufraine gets attacked by those 3 guys? That kind of thing is not entirely uncommon. Its a more gruelling experience that taking the needle.

But then all this brings up the question, "When is it OK to sentence someone to death when you can throw them in prison?"


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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134890] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If they spend life in prison, they live in fear. I mean, you are housed with tons of other criminals, who could potentially attack you. Have you seen that part in the Shawshank Redemption where Andy Dufraine gets attacked by those 3 guys? That kind of thing is not entirely uncommon. Its a more gruelling experience that taking the needle.

But then all this brings up the question, "When is it OK to sentence someone to death when you can throw them in prison?"


Sending them to prision for life takes tax dollars to house them, give them electricity and all the other extra crap we shoudlnl't be giving them, it takes time and pay to give to gurads who risk tehre lives when they don't have to around these types of people. If we would just kill them wiht a bullet and throw them in a unmarked grave it would be no problems.


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But that'd be doing them a favor...death is overrated IMHO.
Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134894] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But that'd be doing them a favor...death is overrated IMHO.


That all depends on if you belive in hevan and hell dude. They think we're doing them a favor, until they bleed to death from that one shot in the ear and are on they're way to burn in hell for there sins , for the rest of time and on.


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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134895] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They's still be spending something like 25 years in prison on death row.

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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134897] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They's still be spending something like 25 years in prison on death row.


No no no, read the entire post i made, the first one.

In my way they would have a max of 2 - max 6 months before the sentence is carried out. That gets rid of that sitting there crap.


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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134898] Fri, 28 January 2005 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a question. Why do they get a weight room? What would they be training for? a break out? it seems really stupid to me to let them train for a breakout while they are in prison. my 2 cents.

and i agree with cow. We need an "Express Lane" - Ron White pwns.


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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134917] Fri, 28 January 2005 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you took a gun to their heads, that would be painless also. Once that bullet hits your head... You aren't gonna feel any pain. It would be tough finding someone to do this though. If you are going to kill someone, I suppose Riding the Lightning would hurt like hell.

This is a tricky topic.

We want pain and possible death to be inflicted on a criminally insane murderer, but we don't want their death to be quick.

Is is better to inflict pain and kill them or let them rot in jail? Yes it would cost money to keep them in jail, but while they are there, they will lament over who they killed. I think this is puts the minds of the victim's family at rest.


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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134926] Fri, 28 January 2005 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They don't lament in jail if they don't feel remorse. That is the key determining factor between lifetime imprisonment and sentencing to death. If we could determine the remorse in a criminal's mind we could make a just and righteous judgement. Without this we are left to guess.

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Killing criminals instead of letting them leech off of society for the rest of their lives is much more logically sound in the whole scheme of things.

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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134936] Sat, 29 January 2005 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In my opinion, executions should be done with guns instead of a lethal injection. It's much cheaper, and far quicker. I doubt any normal human can survive 5 bullets to the head.

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In my opinion, executions should be done with guns instead of a lethal injection. It's much cheaper, and far quicker. I doubt any normal human can survive 5 bullets to the head.


1 shotgun shell to the stomach. Let him bleed to death.


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Capital Punishment Views?? [message #134959] Sat, 29 January 2005 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Killing criminals instead of letting them leech off of society for the rest of their lives is much more logically sound in the whole scheme of things.


Logical, yes. Moral, not necessarily.



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I somewhat disagree.

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If you're referring to the logistics, it is more logical to eliminate not only burdens, but detriments to society in the fastest and economically efficient way possible. That way, society isn't financially hurt and they aren't dying from a sociopathic killer.

If you're referring to morality, then the only morals that matter are your own. And mine say that killing, while sometimes justified, is always wrong.



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The big problem with sentancing someone to death is that they usually live longer than the average lifer. Their should be a maximum timespan on death penalty appeals, say about 2 years. If they can't be proven innocent of the crime in that period of time then it's their tough luck. Also, the methods of executionhave gotten as soft as the fat cat lawyers. A person guilty of brutally murdering another person or persons should be either hung(preferably in public. and before you ask there are methods of hanging that are instant), electrocuted, or gas chambered. These methods are not overly inhumane and are violent enough for the families of the victims to get some sense of revenge from the whole thing.

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In my opinion, executions should be done with guns instead of a lethal injection. It's much cheaper, and far quicker. I doubt any normal human can survive 5 bullets to the head.


1 shotgun shell to the stomach. Let him bleed to death.


I have always thought we should bring back the firing squad, there are tons of people that would sign up for the job.


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In my opinion, executions should be done with guns instead of a lethal injection. It's much cheaper, and far quicker. I doubt any normal human can survive 5 bullets to the head.


1 shotgun shell to the stomach. Let him bleed to death.


I have always thought we should bring back the firing squad, there are tons of people that would sign up for the job.


I would lol. I'd be a one man firing squad. In my mind , if im killing someone i know has murdered another innocent human being in cold blood, then im doing something right. Im giving them justice andi would feel 0 remorse for them.


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I would too. To me, they arent human anymore.

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