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Honest Opinion [message #133983] Sun, 23 January 2005 19:21 Go to next message
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In a few short weeks I'm going to be getting a newer model video card to replace my aging GF4MX 420.

Now, what I want to know, minus any hype or BS, is whether I should get a

Geforce FX 5700 LE

or a

Radeon 9600(non pro/XT/superdupermarketingploy)

Both cards will be in the 128mb memory category.

I would also like any well-reasoned explanations one way or the other, preferably with hard benchmarks to back them up. I also welcome any suggestions of alternatives. However my budget is $80.00 and any suggestions need to fit in that price range. Lastly, I will not be doing any overclocking as I'm not comfortable with it and I need to make this last for a good long while.

Thank you for your cooperation.


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Honest Opinion [message #133988] Sun, 23 January 2005 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can get a 9600 for 80 bucks? Awesome.

For that price range, I don't think you'll do much better.


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Honest Opinion [message #133990] Sun, 23 January 2005 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you have found either of those cards for $80, thats a good deal. Bargain in fact. I have seen the FX5500 being sold for about $80, so if you can get your hands on the 5700, its worth it. Although I think the 5700 is just an overclocked version of the 5500. I don't have any experience with ATI card though, so I can't say which is better.

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Honest Opinion [message #133995] Sun, 23 January 2005 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's just a standard 9600, not a Pro, XT, SE, or whatever suffix ATi has decided to tack on it.

Look here

and here

That second one is local.


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Honest Opinion [message #134027] Sun, 23 January 2005 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Get the 9600, if you don't and get an FX card you'll regret it.

Pay a little bit more and you can get the 9600 Pro here: http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/simprod.asp?pid=8694&ad=pwatch

Which is in fact a lot better.
Honest Opinion [message #134032] Sun, 23 January 2005 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Go for the 9600.

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Honest Opinion [message #134035] Sun, 23 January 2005 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5154475073&category=40158

Is this the one you are looking forward to buy?

($70 + $10 (S&H) = $80)


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Honest Opinion [message #134050] Sun, 23 January 2005 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A new one though, aprime me lad. I've been advised by someone with a lot more money invested in ebay to never buy anything listed on that site. It's too random as to whether it'll be worth a damn.

You know I'd really just love to pump my budget, but it's pretty much locked in stone.


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Honest Opinion [message #134055] Sun, 23 January 2005 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since I feel like gathering more information about your system... May I know what your current video card is?

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Re: Honest Opinion [message #134060] Sun, 23 January 2005 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Full specs for those interested as if it makes a difference...
Proc: Athlon XP 1800+
Memory: 256mb(ya, I know it's low. I had 384 but one of my modules died.)
This is my mobo.
Linksys NIC, the 100tx I think
ATI TV Wonder VE
and
Geforce 4 MX 420 PCI
on board sound


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Honest Opinion [message #134062] Sun, 23 January 2005 23:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Too bad you didn't get an ATI card in the first place...
http://shop.ati.com/tradeup.asp


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Honest Opinion [message #134066] Sun, 23 January 2005 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've never really been a big fan of ATi. It stems from back in the day when ATi's drivers were shit. There was one that broke several rather popular games and lots of old ones. And they haven't really improved all that much...sure, the cards work all the time now, but there are broken features all over the place.

There is a game I play(Freespace 2) that is being source updated by the community, they've added HT&L, self-illuminated textures, specular lighting, and a whole host of other features and since catalyst 4.4 ATI cards haven't been able to render specular lighting at all, while the Nvidia cards render it just fine.

So while I'm not opposed to getting the ATi, it really needs to be sold to me that it's worth the extra 10 bucks from a speed and unbroken features POV.


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Honest Opinion [message #134068] Mon, 24 January 2005 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?DEPA=0&description=14-127-150&CMP=OTC-pr1c3watch&ATT=Video+Cards My future purchase this summer. Mmm.
Honest Opinion [message #134071] Mon, 24 January 2005 01:32 Go to previous message
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I am personally a fan of the NVidia GeForce brand but that is just personal. Either card will do more than what you need for Renegade and most other gaming needs of what is on the market today. I think that the 9600 is more the card if you want it to last you a while withought having to replace it. Either card for $80 or less is certainly a steal so whatever you pick, you got a good price on a good card.

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