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| Funniest political story I've ever heard. [message #133617] |
Sat, 22 January 2005 18:00   |
msgtpain
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Why is it a "funny" story, and how exactly does it "speak for itself"?
I'm guessing that if YOU did something in Country A, which was not deemed "illegal" in said country, but found out that Country B was considering prosecuting you for said offense, you wouldn't get on a plane and go there either.. You're right, it DOES speak for itself. It says to me, Rumsfield would be a retard (you like that word, I know) if he visited a country where he 'could' be arrested under their law.
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| Funniest political story I've ever heard. [message #133625] |
Sat, 22 January 2005 18:23 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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pain, German war crime laws aren't different from ours. It's just that they have a habit of carrying out their laws. It's actually ingrained in their culture that they follow written laws to a tee.
They got stuck in a tight spot with this, when the group sued to have the court prosecute Rumsfeld if he came on their soil.
Good to see that some people still abide by laws.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Funniest political story I've ever heard. [message #133628] |
Sat, 22 January 2005 18:29 |
msgtpain
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pain, German war crime laws aren't different from ours. It's just that they have a habit of carrying out their laws. It's actually ingrained in their culture that they follow written laws to a tee.
They got stuck in a tight spot with this, when the group sued to have the court prosecute Rumsfeld if he came on their soil.
Good to see that some people still abide by laws.
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Another intentional skirting of the point?
The laws can be identical, down to the same dotted I's and in the same pen ink.. But they are carried out by two entirely different countries, under two entirely different legal systems..
Germany can prosecute you right now for whatever hypothetical thing we want to dream up, if they wanted to... and you would still wake up every morning and go on about your business.. Unless you hopped in a plane and flew over there. EVEN if our country had the exact same law, but didn't find the evidence etc to prosecute you.
Are you now insinuating that we should all just abide by every other countries legal system and just "turn ourselves in" when they prosecute us?
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| Funniest political story I've ever heard. [message #133736] |
Sun, 23 January 2005 07:48 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Another intentional skirting of the point?
The laws can be identical, down to the same dotted I's and in the same pen ink.. But they are carried out by two entirely different countries, under two entirely different legal systems..
Germany can prosecute you right now for whatever hypothetical thing we want to dream up, if they wanted to... and you would still wake up every morning and go on about your business.. Unless you hopped in a plane and flew over there. EVEN if our country had the exact same law, but didn't find the evidence etc to prosecute you.
Are you now insinuating that we should all just abide by every other countries legal system and just "turn ourselves in" when they prosecute us?
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msgt, the point isn't "Ha ha Rummy's not turning himself in." Far from it. The point of this story is that it apparently takes a non-U.S. legal system to recognize the errors of, at the least, one of Bush's cohorts.
Germany doesn't want to have this warrant for Rumsfeld hanging over their heads, but when they got the case and were presented a 100+ page document, they could find no reason to turn down the case.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Funniest political story I've ever heard. [message #133878] |
Sun, 23 January 2005 12:42 |
msgtpain
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msgt, the point isn't "Ha ha Rummy's not turning himself in." Far from it. The point of this story is that it apparently takes a non-U.S. legal system to recognize the errors of, at the least, one of Bush's cohorts.
Germany doesn't want to have this warrant for Rumsfeld hanging over their heads, but when they got the case and were presented a 100+ page document, they could find no reason to turn down the case.
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Sorry man.. that's probably one of the most retarded and outlandish things that I've heard.. but coming from you, it's no surprise..
I would be willing to bet that I could press charges on thousands of US citizens through other countries for such things as "homosexuality, cross dressing, spanking your children, feeding birds or even not growing side burns"... and they would all be found guilty.
Should we round them up and send them on over for their sentencing? The way you look at this is so completely bass fucking assward that it's honestly incredible.. OF COURSE a US organization that wanted to make a point had to go to ANOTHER COUNTRY to have their point recognized.. because it didn't hold water here obviously; so lets "go where someone may listen to us".. I guess it's a good thing that Rumsfield is a US citizen and not a German one, isn't it?
I honestly hope you grow up to be diesel mechanic or something.. brainwashed little kid that thinks he knows everything cause daddy bought him a thesaurus.
The point of this story is that it apparently takes a non-U.S. legal system to recognize the errors of, at the least, one of Bush's cohorts
The point of this story is that it apparently takes a non-U.S. legal system to recognize the errors of, at the least, one of Bush's cohorts
Lets say it some more...
The point of this story is that it apparently takes a non-U.S. legal system to recognize the errors of, at the least, one of Bush's cohorts
The point of this story is that it apparently takes a non-U.S. legal system to recognize the errors of, at the least, one of Bush's cohorts
Oh come on.. .once more..
The point of this story is that it apparently takes a non-U.S. legal system to recognize the errors of, at the least, one of Bush's cohorts
It's just so laughable, I can't help myself...
Honestly.. How many OTHER countries do you think would recognize the "errors of one of Bush's cohorts".. I'd bet there are probably 50, maybe 100? that "one of Bush's cohorts" have done something illegal, accorging to "their laws", don't you think?
One more time.
The point of this story is that it apparently takes a non-U.S. legal system to recognize the errors of, at the least, one of Bush's cohorts
If I ever have any legal issues, I'll be sure to give you a call, lol..
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| Funniest political story I've ever heard. [message #133973] |
Sun, 23 January 2005 19:01 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Sorry man.. that's probably one of the most retarded and outlandish things that I've heard.. but coming from you, it's no surprise..
I would be willing to bet that I could press charges on thousands of US citizens through other countries for such things as "homosexuality, cross dressing, spanking your children, feeding birds or even not growing side burns"... and they would all be found guilty.
Should we round them up and send them on over for their sentencing? The way you look at this is so completely bass fucking assward that it's honestly incredible.. OF COURSE a US organization that wanted to make a point had to go to ANOTHER COUNTRY to have their point recognized.. because it didn't hold water here obviously; so lets "go where someone may listen to us".. I guess it's a good thing that Rumsfield is a US citizen and not a German one, isn't it?
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Hold water? The US and Germany have largely the same laws concerning war crimes. It's just that they follow the laws there. Something Rummy here has been very good at avoiding.[/quote]
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I honestly hope you grow up to be diesel mechanic or something.. brainwashed little kid that thinks he knows everything cause daddy bought him a thesaurus.
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Wtf?
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Honestly.. How many OTHER countries do you think would recognize the "errors of one of Bush's cohorts".. I'd bet there are probably 50, maybe 100? that "one of Bush's cohorts" have done something illegal, accorging to "their laws", don't you think?
One more time.
The point of this story is that it apparently takes a non-U.S. legal system to recognize the errors of, at the least, one of Bush's cohorts
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War crime laws are largely the same. I'm going to ask once again that you "see above."
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If I ever have any legal issues, I'll be sure to give you a call, lol..
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Likely a good idea, because you won't be winning any court cases if you don't here what the opposition says while responding to it.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Funniest political story I've ever heard. [message #133982] |
Sun, 23 January 2005 19:20 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Allow me to explain myself.
A) I mainly said See Above to piss pain off.
B) It's quite applicable, because the only other block of text above that directly applies to what msgt reiterated.
Oh, and I find it funny that you think I'd lose face in front of someone who multiple times refuses to read what I said.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Funniest political story I've ever heard. [message #134009] |
Sun, 23 January 2005 20:10 |
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Crimson
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Oh, I get it now... because Germany has similar laws to us, that means they can prosecute our citizens. Cool.
I'm the bawss.
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Sun, 23 January 2005 20:19 |
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Thats very true. Especially on the charges they are holding against him. The down side to that though is that US - German relationships would be seriously damaged.
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| Funniest political story I've ever heard. [message #134029] |
Sun, 23 January 2005 20:41 |
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Sure, if he goes to Germany, I suppose they can arrest him. Maybe that's why he's not going to GO there.
I'm the bawss.
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Sun, 23 January 2005 20:42 |
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I mean, if I heard the Republic of Ordock in the South Pacific (I made it up) had a warrant for my arrest, I'd probably change my travel plans. Or take my chances and hope the US can get me back there through diplomacy.
I'm the bawss.
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