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Sat, 01 January 2005 23:16   |
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Javaxcx
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=gbull=[L]=]And you Generalize me without even knowing me, so thus, this makes you a bigot as well.
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What you fail to realize is that I've made conclusions based ONLY on what you've told me. That isn't generalization. Think hard, kid. It's not tough.
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Tell, wut races am I other than French?
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French isn't a race. And I don't know what other nationalities you are, and nor is it relevant to the discussion.
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Point is, we are all Bigots, its just the level which supposedly dictates whether you can be called one or not.
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While arguably true, the bigotry you've obviously been practicing is something that can easily be avoided. We're likely all human beings with the ability to reason, so it should not be a problem... at least for some of us. :rolleyes:
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If you dont like me then dont expect me to like you back. And that goes for anybody, including the French.
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Except it is highly likely you don't know that all of the French don't like you. You're generalizing that nation again. And no, you have not specified their government, and nor would it matter. You probably don't know that everyone in the French government doesn't like you either.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 06:00 |
Spoony_old
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The French do not hate America any more than I do. Have any of the anti-French brigade actually been to France lately? I doubt it, otherwise you'd know it's one of the most beautiful countries there is. Or actually talked to a French person? No... it's so much simpler to judge the entire country by the outlook of a few politicians.
The United Kingdom's politicians would be an extraordinarily bad representation of our actual country. (Just putting things in perspective)
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Sun, 02 January 2005 08:09 |
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Jecht
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Taskbot, go back to where you came from nobody. You fail to see that the topic that we are discussing at the moment is one that you have just fallen prey to. You called me a ph4g or a fag. Meaning your also a bigot. Congratulations and thank you for proving my point even more. With one line of complete bafoonery you have just become a hipocrite for claiming i got 'p4n3d' (whatever paned is, i'll just assume that somewhere in your mind that means 'pwnd') for being a bigot while you just displayed bigotry your self. In Java's words- "Keep it up Champ".
And Java, not all of us are blessed with the ability to write what we mean. And since you know so much about me, maybe I'll tell you a little about myself in the Renegade community. See that tag next to my name in my actual acount name? DT is Dark Twenty. I was the clan leader of this clan before we merged with a good friend of mine's other clan known as the GEE clan. GEE stood for Global Elite Empowerment. So when we merged, we came up with GDE, or Global Dark Elite, which may be found in my siggy. Now, remember that friend I told you about? He doesnt speak english that well but he is very proficient at Web Design as was I. He is also very skilled at Renegade and has been in many great clans. Wanna know where this is going? He is French. Yep, thats right, the Hitler among the French that Java has painted a picture for everyone has a French speaking person as his own good friend and co-head leader of the clan GDE. Dont believe he is French? go to http://www.gde-clan.com and go to "forums", you will see that the entire forum layout is in French. My clan, the people that I have chosen, have people from countries such as Canada, America, Bulgaria, Australia, Germany, and im probably forgeting some but thats what happens when your clan hits about 50 members in size. Also, it is a prerequisite for people to have TS2 so we can get to know them as being a clan isnt enough, i want to know the people. We also have Females and different races in our clan. In fact, I dont think there has been a clan with as many women as i have had in it in which there has been 4 in my clan, only 2 are left, but there were 4 total. Now its my turn to ask you- How diverse is your clan FUD? or do you even know...
and its funny that you mock my age but none of you know how old I actually am. And as for Generalizing me as a bigot to the French community.... Shove it.
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What you fail to realize is that I've made conclusions based ONLY on what you've told me.
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You dont know me and by two threads of posting you think you can judge my character? I dont know what you think generalization is, but I got news for a ya Champ, your doing it.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 08:28 |
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cowmisfit
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The French do not hate America any more than I do. Have any of the anti-French brigade actually been to France lately? I doubt it, otherwise you'd know it's one of the most beautiful countries there is. Or actually talked to a French person? No... it's so much simpler to judge the entire country by the outlook of a few politicians.
The United Kingdom's politicians would be an extraordinarily bad representation of our actual country. (Just putting things in perspective)
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I have a news paper artical were a bunch of frenchiese came to our school to see america and said we were a bunch of fat idiots and such. I'll have to see if i can find it on the web, i threw it out.
French people hate america for the most part, is there some that like us?? Yep sure are, but the majority do not. This is because of there leader and the war on terror ,which they do not back us on , yet once it comes time for them to MAKE MAKE MAKE money in the reconstruction effort they wanna jump right on aboard (greedy terrrorist dealin sons a bitchs). We saved there asses in WWI WWII , thats twice and im sure we'll have to save They're asses again at one point or another, tho we shouldn't , and what will they do ?? They'll turn around and stab us in the back because they are NOT our allie they are NOT our freinds , THEY ARE ungreatful bastards.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 09:19 |
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Javaxcx
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Location: Canada, eh?
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=gbull=[L]=]Now its my turn to ask you- How diverse is your clan FUD? or do you even know...
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I don't care about your life story, and nor is this relevant in ANY way to this discussion.
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and its funny that you mock my age but none of you know how old I actually am.
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Like everything else I've stated about you, I can only make conclusions about your character with the information YOU YOURSELF HAVE ALLOWED ME TO SEE-- That includes your behavior and maturity. Don't think you've done that? Let me refresh your memory:
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i dont like the French
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You failed to provide a rational or confirmed reason for you disliking every French person, thus you are prejudiced, thus you are bigotted.
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And as for Generalizing me as a bigot to the French community.... Shove it.
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It's not generalization to reply to you what you yourself have written. Maybe you can provide some evidence suggesting that 100% of the French people (like you literally referred to) hate America in turn. Then maybe, your little quibble with their nation would hold some ground.
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You dont know me and by two threads of posting you think you can judge my character?
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Actually, I do have tidbits of your persona from those various threads. Here's one:
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i dont like the French
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Unless of course you didn't mean to say "I" and meant to refer to someone other than yourself.
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I dont know what you think generalization is, but I got news for a ya Champ, your doing it.
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http://www.dictionary.com <-- Have fun. You're still wrong, by the way. 
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Read the FUD Rules before you come in and make an ass of yourself.
All your base are belong to us.
You have no chance to survive make your time.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 11:08 |
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Jecht
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| Javaxcx |
I don't care about your life story, and nor is this relevant in ANY way to this discussion.
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You accuse me of hating all french people, so i believe the relevance is there since if you read It I clearly say:
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Now, remember that friend I told you about? He doesnt speak english that well but he is very proficient at Web Design as was I. He is also very skilled at Renegade and has been in many great clans. Wanna know where this is going? He is French. Yep, thats right, the Hitler among the French that Java has painted a picture for everyone has a French speaking person as his own good friend and co-head leader of the clan GDE.
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You failed to provide a rational or confirmed reason for you disliking every French person, thus you are prejudiced, thus you are bigotted.
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I said I hate all people who hate me equally. And believe what you may, but most of the French hate us. No matter what you think. I know this is a hard thing to believe but.....guess what, i'll let ya in on a little secret....MOST OF THE WORLD HATES US. Whether its by jealousy or what have you, many nations hate us, not just the French.
And you dont know anything about me. I still know you know nothing about me, and you will never know anything about me unless you have a conversation with me thats not typed out.
I'm sorry the word i was looking for wasn't generalizing. It was assuming, and you know what that does. It makes an ass out of you. Because again, you know nothing about me. nuff said.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 12:50 |
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DaveGMM
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French people hate america for the most part, is there some that like us?? Yep sure are, but the majority do not. This is because of there leader and the war on terror ,which they do not back us on , yet once it comes time for them to MAKE MAKE MAKE money in the reconstruction effort they wanna jump right on aboard (greedy terrrorist dealin sons a bitchs). We saved there asses in WWI WWII , thats twice and im sure we'll have to save They're asses again at one point or another, tho we shouldn't , and what will they do ?? They'll turn around and stab us in the back because they are NOT our allie they are NOT our freinds , THEY ARE ungreatful bastards.
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I wonder who provided all the materials for you guys to rise up and seperate yourselves from our little Empire...
The only ungreatful bastard I see around here is you. When exactly have France stabbed anyone in the back? Last I heard they were waiting for evidence that Iraq had WMD's...
Aren't we all waiting for that evidence...
And whoa whoa whoa little feller! Where did:
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(greedy terrrorist dealin sons a bitchs)
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THAT come from? I'd like to see some proof that France has supplied terrorists with wea...
say. I wonder what weapons the insurgents in Iraq are using right now.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 14:06 |
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cowmisfit
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French people hate america for the most part, is there some that like us?? Yep sure are, but the majority do not. This is because of there leader and the war on terror ,which they do not back us on , yet once it comes time for them to MAKE MAKE MAKE money in the reconstruction effort they wanna jump right on aboard (greedy terrrorist dealin sons a bitchs). We saved there asses in WWI WWII , thats twice and im sure we'll have to save They're asses again at one point or another, tho we shouldn't , and what will they do ?? They'll turn around and stab us in the back because they are NOT our allie they are NOT our freinds , THEY ARE ungreatful bastards.
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I wonder who provided all the materials for you guys to rise up and seperate yourselves from our little Empire...
The only ungreatful bastard I see around here is you. When exactly have France stabbed anyone in the back? Last I heard they were waiting for evidence that Iraq had WMD's...
Aren't we all waiting for that evidence...
And whoa whoa whoa little feller! Where did:
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(greedy terrrorist dealin sons a bitchs)
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THAT come from? I'd like to see some proof that France has supplied terrorists with wea...
say. I wonder what weapons the insurgents in Iraq are using right now.
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THey didn't come to iraq because they had dealings with saddam once again THEY'D LOOSE MONEY , the most important thing in the world to them.
About reading a non-american text book, i have , im in College Prep European History were we have an Biased left wing text book peice of shit that says were only in Iraq for oil and its supposed to be new and updated with all important events , yet it has HALF A PARAGRAPH on 9/11.
Spoony if your saying we didn't help save the french in WWI or WWII you really need to go talk to a few of your elders, your grandfather or soemthing or someoen elses grandfather, see what there opinon of that is, tho considering how much you stand up for the french over your own nation , talking to someone in your family might not be the best option.
Dave, when did they stab anyone in the back?? RIGHT NOW THEY ARE, your a forigner so i wouldn't expect you to understand this concept with out an argument, but what do you call right now?? There supposed to be our allie, if 3000 of there citizins were killed we'd follow and back them 100% becasue we are there ALLIE, it happens to american and they pretty much say shuv it until we can get something out of it. You can bitch and moan all you want about the french people not hating us, but you can't deny the french goverment hates our goverment and would trully love to see America crumble. Guess what, were not gonna let your nations stop us from defending us, if you can't get the concept of hit before your hit first then die.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 14:21 |
Spoony_old
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THey didn't come to iraq because they had dealings with saddam once again THEY'D LOOSE MONEY , the most important thing in the world to them.
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Wow... You really don't know what America's been doing lately, do you?
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About reading a non-american text book, i have , im in College Prep European History were we have an Biased left wing text book peice of shit that says were only in Iraq for oil
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Biased? Perhaps. Left wing? Certainly. But if you replace "only" with "mainly", it's right.
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Spoony if your saying we didn't help save the french in WWI or WWII you really need to go talk to a few of your elders, your grandfather or soemthing or someoen elses grandfather, see what there opinon of that is,
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I didn't say you didn't "help". You said "we saved their asses", implying the USA won WWII single-handedly, and that's garbage, sorry bud.
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tho considering how much you stand up for the french over your own nation
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What the hell?
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Dave, when did they stab anyone in the back?? RIGHT NOW THEY ARE
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Since when is "not wanting to fight a war" "stabbing you in the back"?
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your a forigner so i wouldn't expect you to understand this concept with out an argument
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At the moment, I don't expect you to understand anything at all.
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if 3000 of there citizins were killed we'd follow and back them 100% becasue we are there ALLIE
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Funny, because when thousands of Afghani civilians are killed by the inaccuracy of the USA's child-maiming cluster bombs, that's perfectly acceptable? I really hate to burst this bubble for you, but a human life is not worth more or less whether it belongs to a USA sports commentator, a Chinese student, a French salesman, whatever.
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it happens to american and they pretty much say shuv it until we can get something out of it.
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No, they say "the war is bullshit", which it kinda is...
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Sun, 02 January 2005 14:32 |
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cowmisfit
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Spoony war is bullshit?? /me smakes you, welcome back to reality were freedom has to be protected becasue not everything is hunky dorry and not everyone understands talking, would i love to talk with teh iraqies and afganies to stop whats going on now?? Hell yes i would have, before 9/11, i have no symptathy for them waht so ever.
Your calling USA child mamers?? Waht the fuck is wrong with you, GUESS WAHT ITS WAR , PEOPLE DIE AND GET HURT IN WAR, JESUS CHIRST WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?? Yea, i agree with you 100% it sucks that children get hurt, but guess what thats war, sorry.
Saying we saved there asses does not imply we did it all by ourselves at all, i know we didn't do it by our selves. Millions of russians and thousands of british died to help us and many other natinalitys as well, france even. But guess what, with out us there to help the allies we would probebly be living in a totally different world today, no telling what would be happening now or if some of us would even still be alive.
I'll stop now , im goin outside.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 14:33 |
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Javaxcx
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Location: Canada, eh?
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Dave, when did they stab anyone in the back?? RIGHT NOW THEY ARE, your a forigner so i wouldn't expect you to understand this concept with out an argument, but what do you call right now?? There supposed to be our allie, if 3000 of there citizins were killed we'd follow and back them 100% becasue we are there ALLIE, it happens to american and they pretty much say shuv it until we can get something out of it. You can bitch and moan all you want about the french people not hating us, but you can't deny the french goverment hates our goverment and would trully love to see America crumble. Guess what, were not gonna let your nations stop us from defending us, if you can't get the concept of hit before your hit first then die.
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France is your ally. They were in Afghanistan, and appropriately working with the Afghani coalition to deal with the man who took those 3000 lives.
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As soon as United Nations Security Council Resolution 1378 was issued on 18 October 2001, France forces were sent in Afghanistan... In total, some 5,500 French service members were sent to the region
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France had no obligation to assist you in your Iraq war. It had nothing to do with 9/11 and Saddam was still under his sanctions. It is irrelevant that what we know now portrays people in the French government in a suspicious light. In March 2003, you knew no such thing and went to war illegally anyway.
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Read the FUD Rules before you come in and make an ass of yourself.
All your base are belong to us.
You have no chance to survive make your time.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 14:41 |
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warranto
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Spoony war is bullshit?? /me smakes you, welcome back to reality were freedom has to be protected becasue not everything is hunky dorry and not everyone understands talking, would i love to talk with teh iraqies and afganies to stop whats going on now?? Hell yes i would have, before 9/11, i have no symptathy for them waht so ever.
Your calling USA child mamers?? Waht the fuck is wrong with you, GUESS WAHT ITS WAR , PEOPLE DIE AND GET HURT IN WAR, JESUS CHIRST WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?? Yea, i agree with you 100% it sucks that children get hurt, but guess what thats war, sorry.
Saying we saved there asses does not imply we did it all by ourselves at all, i know we didn't do it by our selves. Millions of russians and thousands of british died to help us and many other natinalitys as well, france even. But guess what, with out us there to help the allies we would probebly be living in a totally different world today, no telling what would be happening now or if some of us would even still be alive.
I'll stop now , im goin outside.
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Of course, the only reason you entered the war in the first place is because of Japan's alliance with Germany. They declared war on you, so America had no choise but to fight.
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Sun, 02 January 2005 14:53 |
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DaveGMM
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if you can't get the concept of hit before your hit first then die.
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Rephrase that to "Hit first, even when we don't know if we're justified, don't know if we'll kill the right people and don't know if we'll get the man" and I'll accept that... or at least moreso than the drivvel you write.
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Your calling USA child mamers?? Waht the fuck is wrong with you, GUESS WAHT ITS WAR , PEOPLE DIE AND GET HURT IN WAR, JESUS CHIRST WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?? Yea, i agree with you 100% it sucks that children get hurt, but guess what thats war, sorry.
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You're fighting a losing battle there. Like it or not, the USA uses bombs that they know are unreliable and only detonate xx% of its payload, leaving the other bomblets on the ground until some unsuspecting child picks it up and finds that he has no hands or feet soon after.
No shit people die in war, but that's no justification for killing non-combatants, or worse, condoning actions (or in this case, inactions) leading to their deaths. Kill the people firing guns at you, don't kill the people cowering in a house because they've been caught up in a war that has nothing to do with them, eh?
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But guess what, with out us there to help the allies we would probebly be living in a totally different world today,
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Oh, the "America saved your sorry asses SO BE FUCKING GREATFUL" response. Just remember who saved your asses in the war of Independance.
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Dave, when did they stab anyone in the back?? RIGHT NOW THEY ARE, your a forigner so i wouldn't expect you to understand this concept with out an argument, but what do you call right now?? There supposed to be our allie, if 3000 of there citizins were killed we'd follow and back them 100% becasue we are there ALLIE, it happens to american and they pretty much say shuv it until we can get something out of it. You can bitch and moan all you want about the french people not hating us, but you can't deny the french goverment hates our goverment and would trully love to see America crumble. Guess what, were not gonna let your nations stop us from defending us
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They're stabbing you in the back because they're being good and not following GWB into an illegal war... Ok. I can't argue with that :rolleyes:
You're right, I can't deny that the French government hate you, because I have no fucking clue what the French government are thinking. Let's remember that dodgy intelligence is what got you in this mess.
We're not asking you to stop defending yourselves, we're asking you to stop killing people for no reason whatsoever.
Pretty please?
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Sun, 02 January 2005 15:24 |
Spoony_old
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Spoony war is bullshit?? /me smakes you, welcome back to reality were freedom has to be protected becasue not everything is hunky dorry and not everyone understands talking, would i love to talk with teh iraqies and afganies to stop whats going on now?? Hell yes i would have, before 9/11, i have no symptathy for them waht so ever.
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Define "them"?
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Millions of russians and thousands of british died to help us and many other natinalitys as well, france even. But guess what, with out us there to help the allies we would probebly be living in a totally different world today,
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Yeah, and it was really nice of the USA to wait until they got attacked, wasn't it?
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