| "Stealth is key" [message #123526] |
Wed, 01 December 2004 22:25   |
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Titan1x77
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Why not make 3 skins?
One with snow, another with mud, and leave that 3rd one....just export all 3 models with it's respective skin.
"But if the gameplay sucks, the looks don't matter at all." - Sir Phoenixx
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| "Stealth is key" [message #123530] |
Wed, 01 December 2004 22:35 |
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Titan1x77
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| bigejoe14 |
Why not make a skin that dosen't suck?
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I think that's what he's trying to do...
Why do you guys care so much anyways,youve all stated your not going to play it, oh wait ...I get it, you need a to come in here and post some babble about it sucks...with no real good help to him.
Wheres Sir Phoenix we you need him?
"But if the gameplay sucks, the looks don't matter at all." - Sir Phoenixx
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| "Stealth is key" [message #123557] |
Thu, 02 December 2004 04:11 |
TeMpLaR
Messages: 14
Registered: June 2003
Location: Holland
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| j_ball430 |
I think the problem lies within the picture. Your texture does look a little plastic-ish, but so does the picture. The picture makes the tank look like kid's toy.
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There has to be some kind of metal skin on the model to fix this problem. The model though is grwat work the only thing I can say about it, is that the model is a little bit flat. who care's.
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| "Stealth is key" [message #123646] |
Thu, 02 December 2004 15:25 |
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YSLMuffins
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| "Stealth is key" [message #123686] |
Thu, 02 December 2004 18:55 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Registered: November 2003
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Hm...the 2 bars that go down the front of the windshield in the WW render seem to add a lot of definition to the screen of the tank, and I personally think it looks a lot better with a rectangular windshield rather than the modified curved one you have there.
The texture does look a bit off, but not by much.
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| "Stealth is key" [message #123700] |
Thu, 02 December 2004 19:48 |
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Hey guys, I don't pretend to be a professional. I do what I can, anyway madtone, just try to improve it if you think you can, files are on the internal forum.
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| "Stealth is key" [message #123748] |
Fri, 03 December 2004 01:13 |
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Jecht
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Registered: September 2004
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| Rendardin6 |
Hey guys, I don't pretend to be a professional. I do what I can, anyway madtone, just try to improve it if you think you can, files are on the internal forum.
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And there you have it, hes just doing what he can, stop giving him a hard time when hes obviously not posing as a professional, its just what he likes to do for fun. Constructive critiscism will make him better, but you dont have to flat out bitch at him because it doesnt meet your specifications. I for one, cant do that good, so why would i bash him? in fact, I think about half the people that are bashing him all the time couldn't do better. think you can? then put up or shut up u whining babies.
This shit:
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]texture sucks balls.
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| bigejoe14 |
Why not make a texture that dosen't suck?
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wont help him.
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| "Stealth is key" [message #123821] |
Fri, 03 December 2004 08:56 |
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Nope, I improve it as much as I can. Madtone asked to edit it, I said just above : let's see that. ( And we wouldn't have that stank if we weren't improving our stuff  )
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| "Stealth is key" [message #123835] |
Fri, 03 December 2004 10:15 |
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m1a1_abrams
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Registered: August 2003
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I think this is the second or third version of the Stealth Tank that Renardin has skinned? He's also made more than one version of most of the vehicles, starting pretty much from scratch each time from what I can tell.
Not everyone is going to like his stuff, but I think it's really unfair to suggest that he isn't trying to improve. I think what he is trying to say (please correct me Renardin if I'm wrong), is that he isn't capable of producing professional-quality work at this point in time, so there's no point in expecting that level of work from him. That's not to say that you shouldn't offer ideas on how he could improve things, but rather to be realistic about how much he can achieve right now.
From my point of view this community has really high standards with regards to what "good" work is. That could be either a good or a bad thing depending on how you look at it, but since most of the fans are incapable of producing work to the same standard as the latest professional games, it's just silly to critique their work from that perspective. Renardin in particular isn't trying to sell his work to a professional games company... he's just trying to finish a project for himself and the other people working on it. Sure, if you want to look at his stuff from the perspective of a professional company, it's not going to be good enough. However, although it may seem like finding fault in something would always help somebody to improve, it doesn't if your standards are so high as to be unattainable. You may as well just say "it's not realistic enough, it doesn't look enough like something from Doom 3, just scrap the whole thing and start again"... Reborn would never get finished if the standards were that high. You need a foundation to build on before you move onto something better. Saying that something sucks because it doesn't meet some really high standards (that simply aren't attainable at this point in time), doesn't help anything to improve.
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| "Stealth is key" [message #123838] |
Fri, 03 December 2004 10:36 |
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cheesesoda
Messages: 6507
Registered: March 2003
Location: Jackson, Michigan
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We understand that he's not a professional, but neither are most of the RenAlert team, but yet RenAlert's quality is way beyond that of Reborn's. Whether or not he's not a professional doesn't excuse the fact that he can use it as an excuse, as he has in the past. I remember once that I gave him some constructive criticism and called me an "ACK ass-licker". Yeah, he really wants to improve his work. :rolleyes:
This may be the third model of the Stealth tank that he's texture mapped, but that doesn't mean that he's trying to improve on what he did wrong the last time. It just means that here's another model he had to texture map, and did the same half-assed job. Now, I know that I coudn't texture anything, but then again, you don't see me making anything and then saying it's the way it is because I'm not a "professional".
While this community does hold mods to a high standard, Reborn isn't up to the standard of any other game community either. Reborn does have talent, but the rest of the team doesn't give a fuck, and that hurts their mod.
whoa.
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| "Stealth is key" [message #123840] |
Fri, 03 December 2004 10:52 |
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I don't know why I would lose some more time to explain you what you obviously can't figure or understand. Sorry, live with it.
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| "Stealth is key" [message #124058] |
Sat, 04 December 2004 08:58 |
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If you look at the referrence, it looks like they're either very small sets of tank tracks wrapped around a single gear/wheel, or they wrapped snow chains around a tire. And since there's no axels, and the thing is a "stealth tank", they should be tank treads wrapped around a single gear/wheel. (think mammoth tank, but with only a single gear per set of tank treads)
Also, the bottom of the front of the cockpit needs to be higher. The rear two wheels need to be moved foward, the front side of the covering over the wheel should be right up against that gray circle/hole (maybe just a little bit behind it) in the leg. Those light blue things on the rear legs need to be toward the back of the sides (instead of toward the front) like in the referrence. And, since they're rocket launchers, there needs to be holes on the back side of the rocket tubes like the front (Looks like they're not there, the screenshot is quite dark.).
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| "Stealth is key" [message #124060] |
Sat, 04 December 2004 09:04 |
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glyde51
Messages: 1827
Registered: August 2004
Location: Winnipeg
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The Reborn team has suffered much ridicule and such and are constantly made fun of. They have kept on going when many mods have given up and left work unfinished. They are trying their best, though you are all to big of jackasses to see it. They do what they can, and they do it not to be made fun of, but for their fans and themselves to play. They still keep on pushing to finish a mod for a engine people have given up on. They are the ultimate gamers; motivated, trying, and doing.
No. Seriously. No.
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| "Stealth is key" [message #124065] |
Sat, 04 December 2004 09:12 |
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cheesesoda
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Registered: March 2003
Location: Jackson, Michigan
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| glyde51 |
The Reborn team has suffered much ridicule and such and are constantly made fun of. They have kept on going when many mods have given up and left work unfinished. They are trying their best, though you are all to big of jackasses to see it. They do what they can, and they do it not to be made fun of, but for their fans and themselves to play. They still keep on pushing to finish a mod for a engine people have given up on. They are the ultimate gamers; motivated, trying, and doing.
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Yes, they are made fun of, but you weren't here for most of the reasons. You need to a lot of digging around to find it all. Trust me, most of the comments that they receive(d) are for a good and founded reason.
I commend them for keeping on going, but that's all I can give them credit for.
Some of them are trying their best, but Renardin seems to like to do a half-assed job and ignore all criticism (good and bad) and disregard it as "Ack ass-licking". That's not trying to improve. That's not wanting to improve where they could and make their mod many times better.
They're a mod team, they're expected to make a mod for fans and themselves. They've done nothing to not be made fun of. Some actual quality work that would be somewhat impressive would help, but yet there is none.
Renegade is drying, and the Source engine is much better than the W3D engine. There's no comparison.
They are the ultimate slackers; deflated, half-assing it, and doing nothing to improve their mod.
whoa.
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| "Stealth is key" [message #124086] |
Sat, 04 December 2004 10:33 |
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Jballthing is wrong.
Example :
New tick tank :
the fans didn't like it all, so after following the comments, we decided to do the whole work again. ( Here is the proof of what I say, Jball doesn't know about what he is talking... He is just a moron )
After looking at the render :
We made a new model. Texture is under work.
Thank Jballthing, you just offered a great opportunity to show that you are only a 'shit talker'.
Owned.
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| "Stealth is key" [message #124089] |
Sat, 04 December 2004 10:42 |
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glyde51
Messages: 1827
Registered: August 2004
Location: Winnipeg
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Don't be an ass, or you'll lose your fan base.
No. Seriously. No.
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