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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #119749] |
Mon, 11 October 2004 16:22   |
gam3rj
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I think that some of these should be fixed, but others should remain. Being able to drive your vehicle in a building hardly ever shows abuse and is fairly hard to do in a higher level ping server. Besides, it seems reasonable as the dimensions fit. Base to Base on field should be fixed as the missle is clearly going through a wall but the tunnel beacon should not be fixed (if it can). You must draw a fair line.
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #120277] |
Thu, 14 October 2004 22:32 |
suntar
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Registered: September 2004
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I agree 100% with gam3rj, at this rate, you guys are going to mess up the game I came to love. Its not even up to you guys to make patches for this game, and when you guys do it, you dont even do a good job, im sorry but its true. Not to mention that the whole renegade community has gone up into flames.
And the whole being able to drive a vehicle into a building, it can only be done with one vehicle, and it has no advantage to it, what so ever, its a fun bug that shouldnt be touched. The B2B on maps were you can see the building your fireing on should not be fixes, the ones were you can not see the building should.
Tunnel beacons fix? wtf is that, your telling me, IN REAL LIFE, if you put a beacon to call for a missle to hit, on a wall next to a builing, it wont hurt if not destroy that building? My god, you guys have lost your minds with the power to change things. Not to mention rengaurd doesnt even work 100% and when i try to give tips on how to fix it, i get flamed, like I am almost positive i will get flammed for this post.
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #120278] |
Thu, 14 October 2004 22:36 |
Slash0x
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Registered: January 2004
Location: California
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I agree 100% with gam3rj, at this rate, you guys are going to mess up the game I came to love. Its not even up to you guys to make patches for this game, and when you guys do it, you dont even do a good job, im sorry but its true. Not to mention that the whole renegade community has gone up into flames.
And the whole being able to drive a vehicle into a building, it can only be done with one vehicle, and it has no advantage to it, what so ever, its a fun bug that shouldnt be touched. The B2B on maps were you can see the building your fireing on should not be fixes, the ones were you can not see the building should.
Tunnel beacons fix? wtf is that, your telling me, IN REAL LIFE, if you put a beacon to call for a missle to hit, on a wall next to a builing, it wont hurt if not destroy that building? My god, you guys have lost your minds with the power to change things. Not to mention rengaurd doesnt even work 100% and when i try to give tips on how to fix it, i get flamed, like I am almost positive i will get flammed for this post.
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OMG! IT'S called uB3r rules to make the game FAIR! I doubt the game was meant for vehicles to boundary hop, or why would they have put the blockers there with the road blockers. Hhhmmmm????
L3T'5 4LL THR0W 3GG5 4T D4 N00B! 
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #120279] |
Thu, 14 October 2004 22:37 |
suntar
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normally 1 team of snipers owns the tunnel.. and after that its normally impossible to disarm once planted
also it doesnt do much damage alone but 400 ish points a plant and the newbs plant over and over again with no intention of destroying the building only to pointwhore.. it ruins the game
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Oh for heaven sakes, WE MUST FIX THIS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES SKILL AND TEAMWORK TO GET A TACTIC TO WIN THE GAME!
Omg this whole patch thing is driving me insane!
This is like complaining aobut Gorrilla Warfare Tactics in a war that was based apon standing in a line and shooting one another (Yes, i got that from "The Patriot")
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #120281] |
Thu, 14 October 2004 23:04 |
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Aircraftkiller
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Registered: February 2003
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You're an idiot suntar. You know nothing about balance, fair play, intelligence, honor, or knowing how to play a C&C game.
Yes, this is C&C. Not reality. Don't use real life as a justification for you wanting to leave a problematic, broken game the way it is.
[Updated on: Fri, 15 October 2004 01:39] Report message to a moderator |
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #120289] |
Fri, 15 October 2004 01:15 |
flyingfox
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If intelligence and honour come in to it, there should be only 2 or 3 n00b cannon snipers available at one time, and standard soldiers should get an extra single point of armour so that they can sustain a n00b cannon bullet.
you simply can't trust people not to do the shit they do now, such as running people over in apcs instead of finish them off, and hide under the "i'm not breaking any rules" clause.
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #120294] |
Fri, 15 October 2004 01:56 |
flyingfox
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yes, but there's no rule saying "don't overuse ramjet rifles" either and people still do it....I agree, you require the rules because people lack the discipline necessary to abide by fair play in respect to others.
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #120404] |
Fri, 15 October 2004 16:29 |
suntar
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You're an idiot suntar. You know nothing about balance, fair play, intelligence, honor, or knowing how to play a C&C game.
Yes, this is C&C. Not reality. Don't use real life as a justification for you wanting to leave a problematic, broken game the way it is.
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why am i an idiot? I find this funny because you concluded on that off of, what, two posts?
dear goodness, just leave the game bee, stop trying to play god in the C&C world by chaging things your and YOUR friends think is fair.
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #120405] |
Fri, 15 October 2004 16:32 |
suntar
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| suntar |
I agree 100% with gam3rj, at this rate, you guys are going to mess up the game I came to love. Its not even up to you guys to make patches for this game, and when you guys do it, you dont even do a good job, im sorry but its true. Not to mention that the whole renegade community has gone up into flames.
And the whole being able to drive a vehicle into a building, it can only be done with one vehicle, and it has no advantage to it, what so ever, its a fun bug that shouldnt be touched. The B2B on maps were you can see the building your fireing on should not be fixes, the ones were you can not see the building should.
Tunnel beacons fix? wtf is that, your telling me, IN REAL LIFE, if you put a beacon to call for a missle to hit, on a wall next to a builing, it wont hurt if not destroy that building? My god, you guys have lost your minds with the power to change things. Not to mention rengaurd doesnt even work 100% and when i try to give tips on how to fix it, i get flamed, like I am almost positive i will get flammed for this post.
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OMG! IT'S called uB3r rules to make the game FAIR! I doubt the game was meant for vehicles to boundary hop, or why would they have put the blockers there with the road blockers. Hhhmmmm????
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I never mentioned anything about that, i talked about a humvie being able to drive into a building.
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #120425] |
Fri, 15 October 2004 19:31 |
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Aircraftkiller
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| suntar |
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You're an idiot suntar. You know nothing about balance, fair play, intelligence, honor, or knowing how to play a C&C game.
Yes, this is C&C. Not reality. Don't use real life as a justification for you wanting to leave a problematic, broken game the way it is.
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why am i an idiot? I find this funny because you concluded on that off of, what, two posts?
dear goodness, just leave the game bee, stop trying to play god in the C&C world by chaging things your and YOUR friends think is fair.
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I would like things changed to be like C&C, so they will be fair. Renegade is not fair. If you believe it is, I call you an idiot because you lack the mental ability to figure out the large imbalance problems in the game.
Hum-vees were never meant to enter structures. I should know - I was part of the development team. If we wanted you to enter structures, why were the vehicle blocking polygons added on flying levels? Dumbass.
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #120444] |
Fri, 15 October 2004 21:47 |
gam3rj
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Registered: January 2004
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Calm down ACK. Jesus.
I think what he's trying to say, and I agree with him to some point, some things shouldn't be changed. Renegade has been out for almost 3 years now and it's really going to screw with some people if you change significant things now. For example, getting on buildings have become tactics, and if the other team cannot respond to these tactics, that is their loss of skill or knowledge to do so. I think it would be very wrong to take these type of things out.
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #121186] |
Wed, 20 October 2004 18:03 |
gam3rj
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I don't think that is significant enough, while c&c_field shows good statistics, Hourglass doesn't, that's actually fairly close Now, if you were to start trying to balance the game, there's a good chance you'll emit too much torward one particular side and contradict your initial purpose. In the almost 3 years of playing, I can guess that I've won as Nod more than GDI in Field anyway, and this is public servers I am regarding as well. When I was participating in clan matches on this map, I usually chose Nod.
What I also want to express concern for is if you modify the game in these large aspects, it will cause the community to split. You'll have the obvious, those who patch their maps, and those who don't because they are content with what they have already and they are not forced to download them. If it were a required patch download prior to getting on WOL, I suppose this would solve that problem (ie. official patch to some degree).
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #121264] |
Thu, 21 October 2004 08:17 |
flyingfox
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How will it cause a split? Everyone will have the normal maps; only the people who have the modified ones will be playing with each other. Everyone can still play with the normal maps.
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| Poll: Should we fix bugs in westwood maps [message #121543] |
Fri, 22 October 2004 12:46 |
gam3rj
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Unless the map names are changed, the it will replace the current maps, which will make users who don't download the patches have the wrong one. If it has a different map name, I could care less.
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