| Ramjet [message #111086] |
Fri, 27 August 2004 14:54   |
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When the point of the game is to kill your opponents base then yes. Thats the point of Renegade, to kill your opposing team's base and to protect yours.
Whats the point when you lose your structure that you receive no disadvantage from it. It might as well not exist because its not doing anything. Each building in Renegade serves a purpose. Refinery gives you cash, Bar/Hand gives you advanced infantry, WF/Strip gives you Vehicles, AGT/Obi give base defence and Power Plant powers buildings (and keeps costs down).
If these buildings didnt do any purpose other than to be there you might as well just defend 1 building because the other 4 do nothing. This game is about keeps your base alive and destroying the enemy's. If you cant do that then you have to face the consequences.
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| Ramjet [message #111218] |
Fri, 27 August 2004 21:17 |
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would it be right that when one team loses one of those buildings and gets given really weak characters, the other team gets to incinerate everything without fear of death because they blew that structure up?
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Uh.... yea? They killed your building that allowed you to purchase that type of charecter.. don't let them kill it next time, and the game will remain balanced..
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| Ramjet [message #111282] |
Sat, 28 August 2004 02:38 |
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Yes, you could say that... but you expect that with a PIC/Railgun and Rocket men. It is an anti-tank weapon after all, whist the n00bjet is not.
Remember, Friends don't let friends play Reborn!
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| Ramjet [message #111283] |
Sat, 28 August 2004 02:41 |
Vomancha
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Oh of course, the bar died, so that means everyone must suffer from n00bs with with ramjets :rolleyes:
You can't tell me you don't notice how many more people immediatly switch to a ramjet after the bar/hon dies, just so they can sit in one spot killing basic infantry for the rest of the game. Then again, you're one of them, so why should I be surprised...
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Obviously because I'm not a known face here I'm a noob. Just because I say something different to what you think obviously makes me a crap player. Guess what, I actually know how to play this game, I actually know how to snipe. Yes I do notice that lots of people starting buying havocs/sakuras when the Bar/Hand dies to kill whore but let them do that. If there are lots of Havoc's out there then get a APC and go mow them all down. When im sniping and an APC comes towards me I dont immediately start thinking lets whore this APC for points, I run away because I want to stay alive and Im sure most will too. Anyway, if there are 3/4/5 havoc/sak's sitting outside your base its not gonna matter how big there clip is, most basic infantry are still gonna die. If you dont want n00bjet's whoring over your base, dont let your base die and you wont have to worry. You win this game countering your opponent and what they do, if your opposition sniper whores then get some tanks and go and blast there base to bits or go get some shotgunners and sneak up on them. Yes the noobjet is slightly overpowered, but what you suggest just makes it worthless.
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| Ramjet [message #111290] |
Sat, 28 August 2004 02:58 |
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Its stupid two have two different snipers in the first place. Its sad to see how the game was so good and then made shitty. It looked so much better before.
They should just be takin from the game. Or be like the commandos in Renalert have a c4 that takes out a building and an ok close range weapon.
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| Ramjet [message #111292] |
Sat, 28 August 2004 03:01 |
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Agreed. One sniper is enough, one that takes skill to use.
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| Ramjet [message #111299] |
Sat, 28 August 2004 04:03 |
Vomancha
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It doesnt take any less skill to use a ramjet than a normal sniper. The ramjet just does more damage.
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| Ramjet [message #111300] |
Sat, 28 August 2004 04:18 |
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Therefore you need half as much skill to kill people, don't you?
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| Ramjet [message #111301] |
Sat, 28 August 2004 04:28 |
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If you are truly skilled at sniping, you'd know that the head is a one shot kill - regardless of using a n00bjet or regular sniper rifle.
Many skilled players will choose the standard sniper over the n00bjet.
Remember, Friends don't let friends play Reborn!
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| Ramjet [message #116101] |
Wed, 22 September 2004 16:47 |
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Just saying, i dont know if it has been said in this tread, the ramjet was choicen as the counter attack weapon, (e.g against orcas, mrls, buggies, apache, mobile art, humvee) and if it only had 1 sniper bullet, killing a orca is impossible , and on maps like walls_flying, its soooo hard to kill them, becoz they fly off and heal, and there is no base defense
in another aspect, id prefer it too have one bullet, becoz then in sniping games, people would distance snipe, not just dance in the tunnels
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| Ramjet [message #116210] |
Thu, 23 September 2004 09:41 |
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The best way to take out an arty isn't the ramjet, it has never been the ramjet (unless you've got lots of them at the other end of the field --- I'm talking in more individual terms here)
Med has ALWAYS done a better job of killing arties than the ramjet. So does an MRLS at long range (if you're ELiTE with an MRLS, which the vast majority of players aren't), and occasionally the mammoth (in the right situation)
Taking out orcas/apaches... The best anti-aircraft weapon isn't the ramjet, it's simply to buy an orca/apache yourself. Granted Nod has the disadvantage here, but a skilled apache can take out an orca too. Other options: Raveshaw/PICs work well, and I personally don't find it difficult raping an orca with a light tank, but that's just me.
My point is that this move won't unbalance the game, it's not like the best weapon for a particular purpose is being removed.
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| Ramjet [message #117547] |
Thu, 30 September 2004 23:40 |
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I think that's the crux of the argument, the ramjet is not a specialized weapon like everything else. It's good at too much stuff to make the game fair. If I get close to a Deadeye/Blackhand with a Patch, it's an even contest. It's not like that vs. a ramjet. Personally, I think the damage vs. vehicles should be scaled back, not much but make it take 2 whole clips to kill an orca.
There was a time when people were impressed that I have the firepower to decimate a planet in under 10 minutes.
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| Ramjet [message #117569] |
Fri, 01 October 2004 05:11 |
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So if i used a ramjet to kill you, I'm a n00b with no skills cause i use a havoc? *cough*whiners*cough*
You are given a choice to use either the ramjet or blackhand. You chose to use the blackhand instead of the ramjet. you chose the one with a disadvantage, then you get killed by 2 body shots and you what? Complain that the ramjet is more powerful and it isn't fair?
What?
Racing,You can choose engine 1, which is less powerful, or engine 2, which is more powerful. You choose the lousy less power engine and in the end you lost, but its not your fault, I mean its the one with the more powerful engines fault right? So you complain 'Make that engine less powerful Its too powerful.. ITS CHEATING!!!! It takes more skill to drive with a less powerful engine and stay on the road than driving with a more powerful engine and stay on the road. '
If you're soooooo good, why not just take the havoc out with a headshot with your l33t skills?
This is exactly the same with comparing minigunner and the minigunner officer. Why not just complain that the minigunner officer does too much damage?
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| Ramjet [message #117624] |
Fri, 01 October 2004 08:44 |
Naamloos
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I don't know if there ever was an official poll about the n00b cannon, but it's time to make one, fix it, or don't? Give it 1 bullet ffs.
Beter known as "raapnaap".
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