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Commando : Open Source [message #115009] Thu, 16 September 2004 10:51 Go to next message
Genocide is currently offline  Genocide
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As you may or may not know, C&C Commando , The Tiberian Dawn mod for Renegade is planning to move to another engine, i have therfore resigned from the mod and all my assets are not to be used in the further engines, so i have released everything i have made for commando.

You will need a program the opens .RAR (Winrar)

The Rar Contains The Following:

Commando Combat Knife
Commando GDI And Nod Helipads
Commando Nod Buggy
Commando Nod Turret
Commando Repair Facilites
Commando GDI Hummvee (Model By Havoc89)
Commando GDI Orca Lift Truck
Commando Nod Cargo Truck
Commando Plastic C4 Charge
Commando Samsite

I demand that if they are used, they are only used within the C&C Renegade community and that i get credit for them.

Enjoy, and i hope these prove useful modding assets:

http://tgnetwk.com/~gen0cide/Commando_Source.rar


Genocide


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Commando : Open Source [message #115016] Thu, 16 September 2004 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You too? I wasn't really expecting that.

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Commando : Open Source [message #115028] Thu, 16 September 2004 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just because RenAlert is doing it, everyone else wants to do it.
Commando : Open Source [message #115033] Thu, 16 September 2004 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We're not doing anything...

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Commando : Open Source [message #115035] Thu, 16 September 2004 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why is Seaman bothering to move Commando to a new engine? He's just gonna work into a stall on that one, too, and by the team he has this much work done again, a new game engine will be out that will be that much better. I sense an endless loop...

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Commando : Open Source [message #115036] Thu, 16 September 2004 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i was thinking that this would be the best mod, but who wants a cnc mod on a different engine?

No. Seriously. No.
Commando : Open Source [message #115037] Thu, 16 September 2004 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well, I'm guessing I'm saying bub-by to commando then Sad

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Commando : Open Source [message #115038] Thu, 16 September 2004 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I said buh bye to that mod as soon as I saw what that awful awful man did to the harvester
Commando : Open Source [message #115039] Thu, 16 September 2004 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir Phoenixx

We're not doing anything...


What are you talking about?

http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/index.php?showtopic=4512

And no, I didn't mean "right away", so don't bother to try to correct me on that.
Commando : Open Source [message #115064] Thu, 16 September 2004 16:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SuperFlyingEngi

Why is Seaman bothering to move Commando to a new engine? He's just gonna work into a stall on that one, too, and by the team he has this much work done again, a new game engine will be out that will be that much better. I sense an endless loop...


Not really, it's downright silly to continue work on a mod for Renegade unless it's right on the verge of being released. Ren Alert, the most popular mod for Renegade, isn't getting nearly as many players as a lot of shitty, unpopular Half-Life mods. This certainly isn't because of quality, but because the game the mod is built off of was not very popular.

Just look at it this way. You can make two relatively identical mods (gameplay wise) for Renegade and Half-Life 2. With Renegade, you have to do a tremendous amount of scripting and hacking to the engine just to get it to do basic things that come standard in modern engines. You will probably spend more time and more work getting the mod out in a relatively stable form. After all this work, you will get a fairly small number of players compared to mods for more popular games. Now, if you made that same mod for Half-Life 2 then you wouldn't have spent nearly as much time coding and more time fine tuning the gameplay. The graphics would be uncomparably better, and it would be an overall much higher quality product. The best part is you will have many, many times the amount of players you would have with Ren.

Renegade is a great game. In my opinion it's the most underrated game ever. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a shitty basis for a successful mod.


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Commando : Open Source [message #115095] Thu, 16 September 2004 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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obviously you fail to realise the large amount of coding that it is going to take even on the Source engine to make anything remotely close to Renegade?


just letting you know, all FPS games "programatically" work different.


Commando : Open Source [message #115098] Thu, 16 September 2004 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That also goes for Dead 6, Dante.
Commando : Open Source [message #115099] Thu, 16 September 2004 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes, but i am well aware of what needs to be coded, and have some people on the team that have worked quite a bit with the hl coding techniques, and are VERY good with C++ programming.

Commando : Open Source [message #115105] Fri, 17 September 2004 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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smwScott

Not really, it's downright silly to continue work on a mod for Renegade unless it's right on the verge of being released. Ren Alert, the most popular mod for Renegade, isn't getting nearly as many players.... -snip-.


My point exactly. The Source allows to do things that that was not possible do in Renegade or they were in very limited form. Like for example, a true night vision/IR goggles mode can be done with Source while Renegade could only make the screen green with an alpha channel.

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Commando : Open Source [message #115106] Fri, 17 September 2004 01:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Something else to bear in mind is that no assets from Renegade (textures, models, sounds etc) can be used in a mod on another engine - everything would have to be created from scratch.

Commando : Open Source [message #115107] Fri, 17 September 2004 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am fully aware of that.
Commando : Open Source [message #115112] Fri, 17 September 2004 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90

Sir Phoenixx

We're not doing anything...


What are you talking about?

http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/index.php?showtopic=4512

And no, I didn't mean "right away", so don't bother to try to correct me on that.


They're just giving up on their little dead mod and abandoning Renegade, we simply announced that when our mod is finished we might move on to create a new mod together on a new engine, what we're doing is completely different.


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Commando : Open Source [message #115114] Fri, 17 September 2004 05:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Only those who didn't want to move on quit.
Commando : Open Source [message #115125] Fri, 17 September 2004 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dante

yes, but i am well aware of what needs to be coded, and have some people on the team that have worked quite a bit with the hl coding techniques, and are VERY good with C++ programming.


what about sharing your code ( when done of course ) later to help other people to make renegade-like mod on HL2 engine ?

If you do a such thing, we will make an HL2 version in the future.
Commando : Open Source [message #115126] Fri, 17 September 2004 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ha, now that's an interesting question.

Commando : Open Source [message #115127] Fri, 17 September 2004 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Should have seen that question coming.

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Commando : Open Source [message #115140] Fri, 17 September 2004 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dante

yes, but i am well aware of what needs to be coded, and have some people on the team that have worked quite a bit with the hl coding techniques, and are VERY good with C++ programming.


what about sharing your code ( when done of course ) later to help other people to make renegade-like mod on HL2 engine ?

If you do a such thing, we will make an HL2 version in the future.



no offense...

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Commando : Open Source [message #115144] Fri, 17 September 2004 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PiMuRho is currently offline  PiMuRho
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1) We've never stated that we're making a Renegade multiplayer clone.

2) If we built a common Renegade-style multiplayer framework, then there'd just be a bunch of near-identical mods with slightly different characters/units/vehicles. Not fun.


Commando : Open Source [message #115145] Fri, 17 September 2004 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Commando : Open Source [message #115153] Fri, 17 September 2004 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Dante

yes, but i am well aware of what needs to be coded, and have some people on the team that have worked quite a bit with the hl coding techniques, and are VERY good with C++ programming.


what about sharing your code ( when done of course ) later to help other people to make renegade-like mod on HL2 engine ?

If you do a such thing, we will make an HL2 version in the future.
The only way could be that they work to gether with an other team but this community was never really help friendly so why would they work together with ppl like that?
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