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Wed, 04 August 2004 14:17

phlakaton
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Mr. Ed says piss off unless you have a logical statement on the subject. This forum might not be here if it wasn't for the time I left in my wake making Renegade --- you know --- Renegade Public Forum. You wanna pay me for all the overtime I didn't get?

1st, Who is Mr . Ed ?
2nd, Just for your info I bought renegade.
3rd, When people buy a game only a percentage goes to those poor hardworking guys + familys you mentioned so when I download you expect me + many others to think about the 0.000001 that goes to the workers ?

1. Mr. Ed --- a talking horse tv show from the ancient times.
2. Good for you. You might have been the one person to get the sales over 600k
3. No. A percentage doesn't go to us the working crew. We see a bonus once every year based on the team and studio revenue & performance. If sales suffer than everyone suffers. People at EALA this year got NOTHING. A select few got a small percentage of their target bonus based on annual salary. A decent group got nothing because EA didn't ship much last year from EALA and they moved studios... not withstanding monies they saved closing old ones down (like Westwood) ... instead they basically let the employee pay for the move and the missing profit. Not very many companies have profit sharing or royalties either. That is old news. This is big business and the small guy is dependant on that bonus because overtime doesn't exist. No time and a half... no extra pay at all.

Don't forget who makes this crap. The little guy. The execs approve game design docs and project plans and demos... the pissants are the ones who will not get any perks if sales suck. You think execs suffer? At 400k a year... who's going to miss a bonus that would have payed a % of 25% of that annual salary. Those guys will still get a fair cut of it... while some lesser people who make art or design or code get jack.

Wanna make games and spend 2 months straight 7 days a week at work? It's fun when you're 22 years old and single. Try it when you're 30+ with other things in life... like not having a vacation for 10 years. Don't know where you get that % from but think what you will. It hurts the grunt.

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		Doom 3! By: spreegem on Tue, 03 August 2004 07:41
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