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| Doom 3! [message #106017] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 09:31   |
phlakaton
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To all you idiots who don't want to pay for your games... I think you're sorry losers. What do you think it takes to make these games YOU love so much to play? It takes money. Lots of money. It also takes real people who earn a living for their family. Why don't you go get a stinkin' job and pay for it. Jerks.
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| Doom 3! [message #106043] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 10:40 |
phlakaton
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Completely missed the point my friend. You won't have a game to steal if you keep ripping off the people who make them.
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| Doom 3! [message #106049] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 11:01 |
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I agree. Game warez is like going down to the shops and getting a coffee maker to "evaluate it" with the option of buying. If you don't like it, you still get to keep the coffee maker. How is that fair. It costs the company money to make and distribute the product. The only solid argument for things like file sharing music and games is that the products are over priced and far higher than what they could sell them for while still having a very good profit. But, there's also an argument that file sharing helps the industry.
Check out this project. It's basically saying that when people get to try things out, there's more of a likelyness that they'll buy them; and wouldn't have bought them had they not been allowed to try them out first. What it forgets to mention is the amount of people getting products for free by and large negates the amount of people that "buy things if they like them", although maybe not in production costs.
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| Doom 3! [message #106056] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 11:23 |
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| phlakaton |
To all you idiots who don't want to pay for your games... I think you're sorry losers. What do you think it takes to make these games YOU love so much to play? It takes money. Lots of money. It also takes real people who earn a living for their family. Why don't you go get a stinkin' job and pay for it. Jerks.
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I would have to agree, but you know, there are FREE games that you don't have to pay for too, if I download those games directly from the developers' website, does that make me an idiot?
(Oh, and please check your private messages.)
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Doom 3! [message #106060] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 11:34 |
phlakaton
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Use your brain you fool. What you are saying has nothing to do with warez and pirate sites. If a company posts a game for free you bet your ass I'll download it. THEY POSTED IT. THEY WANT ME TO PLAY IT FOR FREE. Are you a moron all the time or just part?
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| Doom 3! [message #106082] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 12:49 |
phlakaton
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What have you been buying anyway? Seems as though there isn't much out there that pleases you. How about you get busy making a design document and submit that poor thing to a publisher. Since there are so many developers out there ripping you off with bad content and poor execution. You can play your own game all day and pay with your own time. Putz.
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| Doom 3! [message #106084] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 12:51 |
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DaSoul
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dude get off your high horse and go save the tree's or something...
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| Doom 3! [message #106088] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 13:05 |
phlakaton
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dude get off your high horse and go save the tree's or something...
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I earned my high horse. You want a piece of this argument? Take a swing. Mr. Ed says piss off unless you have a logical statement on the subject. This forum might not be here if it wasn't for the time I left in my wake making Renegade --- you know --- Renegade Public Forum. You wanna pay me for all the overtime I didn't get? I'll say what I want and you can go eat it.
How about I use the soapbox now. Or maybe an apple crate. Even better... you stand in a trench like the old days.
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| Doom 3! [message #106098] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 13:54 |
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Mr. Ed says piss off unless you have a logical statement on the subject. This forum might not be here if it wasn't for the time I left in my wake making Renegade --- you know --- Renegade Public Forum. You wanna pay me for all the overtime I didn't get?
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1st, Who is Mr . Ed ?
2nd, Just for your info I bought renegade.
3rd, When people buy a game only a percentage goes to those poor hardworking guys + familys you mentioned so when I download you expect me + many others to think about the 0.000001 that goes to the workers ?
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| Doom 3! [message #106106] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 14:10 |
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cheesesoda
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| phlakaton |
Mr. Ed says piss off unless you have a logical statement on the subject. This forum might not be here if it wasn't for the time I left in my wake making Renegade --- you know --- Renegade Public Forum. You wanna pay me for all the overtime I didn't get?
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1st, Who is Mr . Ed ?
2nd, Just for your info I bought renegade.
3rd, When people buy a game only a percentage goes to those poor hardworking guys + familys you mentioned so when I download you expect me + many others to think about the 0.000001 that goes to the workers ?
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Actually, it's the stores that will get cut short, and even then it's the company that's losing money, no specific individuals. So, the big time companies will get their money and continue to profit, while it's the local companies and game providers that will get the short end of the stick. But because of how the company won't go bankrupt because of a low selling game, because they'll make money somehow else. Everybody benefits from this...but it's the warez downloader that benefits most.
whoa.
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| Doom 3! [message #106110] |
Wed, 04 August 2004 14:17 |
phlakaton
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| phlakaton |
Mr. Ed says piss off unless you have a logical statement on the subject. This forum might not be here if it wasn't for the time I left in my wake making Renegade --- you know --- Renegade Public Forum. You wanna pay me for all the overtime I didn't get?
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1st, Who is Mr . Ed ?
2nd, Just for your info I bought renegade.
3rd, When people buy a game only a percentage goes to those poor hardworking guys + familys you mentioned so when I download you expect me + many others to think about the 0.000001 that goes to the workers ?
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1. Mr. Ed --- a talking horse tv show from the ancient times.
2. Good for you. You might have been the one person to get the sales over 600k
3. No. A percentage doesn't go to us the working crew. We see a bonus once every year based on the team and studio revenue & performance. If sales suffer than everyone suffers. People at EALA this year got NOTHING. A select few got a small percentage of their target bonus based on annual salary. A decent group got nothing because EA didn't ship much last year from EALA and they moved studios... not withstanding monies they saved closing old ones down (like Westwood) ... instead they basically let the employee pay for the move and the missing profit. Not very many companies have profit sharing or royalties either. That is old news. This is big business and the small guy is dependant on that bonus because overtime doesn't exist. No time and a half... no extra pay at all.
Don't forget who makes this crap. The little guy. The execs approve game design docs and project plans and demos... the pissants are the ones who will not get any perks if sales suck. You think execs suffer? At 400k a year... who's going to miss a bonus that would have payed a % of 25% of that annual salary. Those guys will still get a fair cut of it... while some lesser people who make art or design or code get jack.
Wanna make games and spend 2 months straight 7 days a week at work? It's fun when you're 22 years old and single. Try it when you're 30+ with other things in life... like not having a vacation for 10 years. Don't know where you get that % from but think what you will. It hurts the grunt.
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