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How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105216] Sat, 31 July 2004 12:49 Go to next message
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Often overlooked (so I did also until now), the tracked vehicle sound effects are functional.
Basically what it does is make your tracked vehicle make track noises as it rolls over terrain.
The symptom: Sound0= is not defined for tracked vehicles in surfaceeffects.ini
Standard renegade tracked vehicles do not have E (engine force) applied to their wheel/track bones

1. Do your tracked vehicle model as usual.
2. Add E to end of each WheelP bone (Eg. WheelP1LE and WheelP4RE). The sound effect will play when those wheel bones with E cross over specific terrain.
4. Add Sound0=ConcreteTrackRoll (or any other sound you prefer) to surfaceeffects.ini under the [(terrain name)_Track Rolling] and [(terrain name)_Track Sliding] section.
3. For a final touchup, edit the preset settings for the tracked vehicle sounds in Level Editor.
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105232] Sat, 31 July 2004 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We had a running bet on how long it would take you to steal our ideas and techniques. Looks like I won, didn't even take you a week.
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105237] Sat, 31 July 2004 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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howd he steal your ideas.. and show proof O_o
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105246] Sat, 31 July 2004 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's all in Renegade Alert. He made several posts on our forum, before I suspended his account, saying "we'll see how long this stays private."

He's a thief who uses the guise of "i want every1 2 shar3 omg" as a way to hide his thievery. Instead of asking, or trying to do something to earn what he wants, he simply steals it or whines about it.
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Rofl, maybe you should of waited just a little longer, so it would seem less obvious you took this directly from RenAlert :rolleyes:

At least give us credit, since you are completely taking NeoSaber's work and claiming it as your own.


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How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105249] Sat, 31 July 2004 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doesn't seem to be stealing, since it was built into to the renegade engine and not scripted by customs means. By the way you're putting it, you're the one stealing from the renegade engine. Anyway, he didn't even claim it as his own, I don't see any "my"s or "mine" in that paragraph so technically, he's not stealing.
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105252] Sat, 31 July 2004 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He doesn't say where he found out how to do it either, and since we figured it out and put it in RenAlert, common sense will tell you where he got it. Considering it was released only days before Seaman posted this...

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How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105260] Sat, 31 July 2004 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This was first implemented in RenAlert, discovered by NeoSaber.
Since there was no public info on this, I had to rely on my own and narrow down possibilities until the correct one was found.
I've tried to implement them ages ago, but with no much of success. The sounds worked but they would cause the game eventually to crash.
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105261] Sat, 31 July 2004 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, of course, its not exactly theft, but its not exactly origional either.
I see it as taking other peoples origional ideas and milking them to death in his gimmick mod.

This is one of the reasons why i respect reborn. They stick to their own ideas, instead of throwing all the best ideas from other mods into a big pile of gimmicks, just to make people play.

So as well as making a mod based on gimmicks that people will soon tire of, you are also taking away the credit of the real genious' who come up with these ideas.
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This isn't even right, man..

Neosaber spent a lot of time on this...trying to figure out something nobody else has, and you go tell the entire community how to do it in one fucking paragraph.


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And now it just gets thrown around anywhere and everywhere without so much as a thank you to NeoSaber.
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105268] Sat, 31 July 2004 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Neosaber spent a lot fo time on this...tryiogn tofigure out something nobody else has


So I did.

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How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105269] Sat, 31 July 2004 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Except you're a thief because you can't figure it out for yourself. We did.
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105271] Sat, 31 July 2004 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I had not figured it out, this topic would not exist.
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105272] Sat, 31 July 2004 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You didn't do anything of importance you fucking lamer. You disassembled the vehicles and saw it had a new wheel bone, that's all.

Then you take our hard work and pass it off as your own, just like you do with everything else you get your dirty little paws on.
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105273] Sat, 31 July 2004 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*Sigh* Jonwil picked apart my Demo Truck scripts and now SeaMan's picking apart my model rigging. I expected it, but it's still a little disheartening. I guess I just have to go back to work and figure out something else amazing so it can be ripped off too.

Hmm... what should I rewrite the book on today? Laughing


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How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105275] Sat, 31 July 2004 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Darkblade

Well, of course, its not exactly theft, but its not exactly origional either.
I see it as taking other peoples origional ideas and milking them to death in his gimmick mod.

This is one of the reasons why i respect reborn. They stick to their own ideas, instead of throwing all the best ideas from other mods into a big pile of gimmicks, just to make people play.

So as well as making a mod based on gimmicks that people will soon tire of, you are also taking away the credit of the real genious' who come up with these ideas.


I truseted em once but than they just proved me wronge... They took one of my ideas without consulting me, nor did they give any credit to me or the mod i made it for. I only trust a few of their members.

As for the topic.

I dunno if seaman found out that info through ren alert or not, but shouldn't this info be told to the public to help modding teams anyways?

Why not share your research with the world rather than keep it a secret between a few people? It doesnt make sence to keep something you've worked so hard for isolated from the public.


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How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105276] Sat, 31 July 2004 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I never intend to hide what I know forever, but when I figure something out I like to make use of it a few times before I tell the world. Keeps it special for a little bit. Very Happy

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How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105279] Sat, 31 July 2004 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wow.. lol

grats neo on your great..umm.. modifications O_o

well nothing can stay a secret forever.. just be glad you guys found it first =)
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105298] Sat, 31 July 2004 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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heh. I'm sure as soon as we get SK's custom dialogs ingame, many other people will "figure out" how to do it too

And keep up the good work NeoSaber Smile


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How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105299] Sat, 31 July 2004 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eventually everyone will figure many things out. Look at Area51. Very Happy

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How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105478] Sun, 01 August 2004 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renx

heh. I'm sure as soon as we get SK's custom dialogs ingame, many other people will "figure out" how to do it too

And keep up the good work NeoSaber Smile


but we all know SK did it first Razz
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105570] Sun, 01 August 2004 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know I'm going to be flamed for this, but...

Boo. Fucking. Hoo.

Quit all this bitching. What did you expect to happen?
How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105573] Sun, 01 August 2004 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's like saying "you released models to the public, and now Seaman is using them for his 'mod' and calls them his work... Boo fucking hoo, what did you expect to happen?"

:rolleyes:
Re: How to enable tracked vehicle sounds [message #105581] Sun, 01 August 2004 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Often overlooked (so I did also until now), the tracked vehicle sound effects are functional.
Basically what it does is make your tracked vehicle make track noises as it rolls over terrain.
The symptom: Sound0= is not defined for tracked vehicles in surfaceeffects.ini
Standard renegade tracked vehicles do not have E (engine force) applied to their wheel/track bones

1. Do your tracked vehicle model as usual.
2. Add E to end of each WheelP bone (Eg. WheelP1LE and WheelP4RE). The sound effect will play when those wheel bones with E cross over specific terrain.
4. Add Sound0=ConcreteTrackRoll (or any other sound you prefer) to surfaceeffects.ini under the [(terrain name)_Track Rolling] and [(terrain name)_Track Sliding] section.
3. For a final touchup, edit the preset settings for the tracked vehicle sounds in Level Editor.


Please directly quote where Seaman claims credit for this process.
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