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Topic abductions [message #104094] Sun, 25 July 2004 17:22 Go to next message
TheGunrun is currently offline  TheGunrun
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In the past two days a bunch of topics have been erased. The folowing topics do not exist anymore.

"Ack, I'm choking on my coke!"
"If you could just ban one person..."

Just to clearify both of these topics were Aircraft Killer bashing.

What is up with that? Why do we need topics to be erased from the forum? What happened to locking the topic or asking it to stop whatever it is doing to diserve deletion? And who is doing this?


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Topic abductions [message #104095] Sun, 25 July 2004 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bigejoe14 is currently offline  bigejoe14
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Locking topics and telling members to control themselves has become ineffective since so many people are waging one man wars against one another.

WHATEVER, FAGGOT
Topic abductions [message #104098] Sun, 25 July 2004 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
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Plus Aircraftkiller holds special sway with Crimson because they're friends, so he gets more say in matters than you do, I believe, as evidenced by the ACK filter.

ACK ACK ACK ACK.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Re: Topic abductions [message #104100] Sun, 25 July 2004 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
msgtpain is currently offline  msgtpain
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TheGunrun

In the past two days a bunch of topics have been erased. The folowing topics do not exist anymore.

"Ack, I'm choking on my coke!"
"If you could just ban one person..."

Just to clearify both of these topics were Aircraft Killer bashing.

What is up with that? Why do we need topics to be erased from the forum? What happened to locking the topic or asking it to stop whatever it is doing to diserve deletion? And who is doing this?


Ack-bashing is not allowed, unlike other topics such as "rebarn bashing" which are completely acceptible.. learn it, live it, love it....

I do the same on my forums, emphasis on my, meaning not yours
Topic abductions [message #104105] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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SuperFlyingEngi

Plus Aircraftkiller holds special sway with Crimson because they're friends, so he gets more say in matters than you do, I believe, as evidenced by the ACK filter.

ACK ACK ACK ACK.


Eh? I don't ask her to delete anything on the forum. We don't even talk that much. She does what she does of her own accord, how about letting her explain before you make off-base assumptions based on nothing?
Topic abductions [message #104107] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Crimson is currently offline  Crimson
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Warranto moved them to the Silo, not I... better find another argument because I seriously doubt warranto would do anything ACK asked him to.

ACK-bashing is allowed here, so let's not tell any lies.


I'm the bawss.
Topic abductions [message #104108] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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There's even Crimson, Blazer, mac, BHS, and RenGuard bashing... There were a lot of those in the recent past. Most of them didn't get closed until the seventh or eighth page.

A lot of "wars" about me don't get closed for a long time, either.
Re: Topic abductions [message #104109] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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msgtpain

Ack-bashing is not allowed, unlike other topics such as "Reborn bashing" which are completely acceptible.. learn it, live it, love it....

I do the same on my forums, emphasis on my, meaning not yours


Why don't you allow all bashing? It would make your forum more of a nuetral forum rather than an delete all posts offensive to ACK forum. I personally don't care on my forum(Though it isn't much of a problem), I just move the topic to the spam forum where future posts in the topic do not count torwards you post count. Ohh well, different admins have their own opinions on what to do abotu spamming, bashing, flaming ETC. . .


Topic abductions [message #104111] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
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Aircraftkiller

Eh? I don't ask her to delete anything on the forum. We don't even talk that much. She does what she does of her own accord, how about letting her explain before you make off-base assumptions based on nothing?


Then how did the ACK filter come about? As far as I can tell, only you really seem to the word ACK.

Also, I don't really care about those two threads that were moved to the silo, they seem like a bunch of garbage to me. It's the ACK filter that got me miffed.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Topic abductions [message #104113] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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I wanted it that way so I asked her if she would do it for me. I still can't see how you would get upset over it being converted to my nickname, like the intent should be. I find it easier to have word filters in place, it helps with typing and makes it easier to convey a point.

For example, the RA forum has "v2" turned into "V2 Rocket Launcher" automatically. "mammy" becomes "Mammoth Tank" and "med tank" becomes "Medium Tank."
Topic abductions [message #104123] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I honestly had no idea anyone would have a huge problem about it. Plain and simple. I removed it as soon as I saw the thread about it.

I'm the bawss.
Re: Topic abductions [message #104127] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
msgtpain is currently offline  msgtpain
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spreegem


Why don't you allow all bashing? It would make your forum more of a nuetral forum rather than an delete all posts offensive to ACK forum. I personally don't care on my forum(Though it isn't much of a problem), I just move the topic to the spam forum where future posts in the topic do not count torwards you post count. Ohh well, different admins have their own opinions on what to do abotu spamming, bashing, flaming ETC. . .


Actually, we don't delete too many threads.. .about the only ones I can think of are the people that get pissed at us and create 3 dozen posts in a matter of minutes; they all get trashed... And I'm sure that on occasion, some completely worthless posts are deleted also, if we feel that they cross whatever fictitious line we may have drawn in the sand that week..

My point was, a forum is not an extension of the first amendment.. There is no guaranteed freedom of speech, like it or not.
Topic abductions [message #104130] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
warranto is currently offline  warranto
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When diliberate threads about bashing someone are made, I ALWAYS move them. If person to person bashing starts in a thread I tend to let them go for a while, as I suspect something stated in the thread caused the people partaking in it to get out of hand, but more or less remain on the topic at hand. Diliberate threads however, have no point other than an excuse to flame someone. I didn't let them stay when such topics were made during the forum vs. Alkaline war, I won't let them stay when it they are made about any forum member.

As for subject material, go for it. Bash about Bush, flame about Tax's. Go all out against Renalert or Reborn. I could care less as no forum member is being targeted (though yes, forum members generally become targeted during such topics, but it evolves into that, and generally isn't deliberate, though some exceptions on a case by case ruling apply). And in this case, if it gets out of hand, it's usually moved to the hot-topics forum.

In short, if you want to diliberately start a topic sbout some member of the forum, don't do it here. Go to another site, or start your own web page about it. Then we can all laugh at you (NOT on this forum), just as we did when we found out about Davestories.
Topic abductions [message #104133] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
msgtpain is currently offline  msgtpain
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So, it's safe to say that a thread started with the intention of flaming a certain mod member for not giving a shit about what the community thinks would not be considered acceptable?
Topic abductions [message #104136] Sun, 25 July 2004 18:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SuperFlyingEngi is currently offline  SuperFlyingEngi
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Crimson

I honestly had no idea anyone would have a huge problem about it. Plain and simple. I removed it as soon as I saw the thread about it.


Aright, I have no beef with you then.

Aircraftkiller

I wanted it that way so I asked her if she would do it for me. I still can't see how you would get upset over it being converted to my nickname, like the intent should be. I find it easier to have word filters in place, it helps with typing and makes it easier to convey a point.

For example, the RA forum has "v2" turned into "V2 Rocket Launcher" automatically. "mammy" becomes "Mammoth Tank" and "med tank" becomes "Medium Tank."


The filter was just you trying to wrap your iron gauntlet around the community and bend them to your will, whereas your will would be to not have people use a nickname that has no harmful intent towards you or your reputation, other than that fact that it uses the C in your name.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Topic abductions [message #104140] Sun, 25 July 2004 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
warranto is currently offline  warranto
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The reason I let that go was simply because AoD is not a member of the forum, as I stated in my explination. Call it "flaming someone behind their back" if you want, but since he's not a member of the forum, I have no reason to remove it. It may bring out two opposing sides, but it's not going to cause an anti-AoD stance in such that whenever he posts here is going to be flamed for it.

In short, it's a preventative step to avoid the community shrinking with sob posts as to how "no one likes me, I'm gone".

Why don't I just do that to all topic then? Simple. It starts off as a difference of opinion rather rather than diliberate attacks. Remember how I stated that there are some exceptions though, and if a situation occurs that demands it be closed (such as things getting too personal with no way of resolving it (touchy topic, so I won't define it unless asked), then I will lock it.
Topic abductions [message #104141] Sun, 25 July 2004 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
warranto is currently offline  warranto
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Aircraftkiller

I wanted it that way so I asked her if she would do it for me. I still can't see how you would get upset over it being converted to my nickname, like the intent should be. I find it easier to have word filters in place, it helps with typing and makes it easier to convey a point.

For example, the RA forum has "v2" turned into "V2 Rocket Launcher" automatically. "mammy" becomes "Mammoth Tank" and "med tank" becomes "Medium Tank."


And acronyms such as L.A.S.E.R. come out L.A.S.E.are. Razz



warning to others, this is meant to be humorous, don't use it as an example to flame him with.
Topic abductions [message #104151] Sun, 25 July 2004 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol, and when I need to texture my cat...

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Topic abductions [message #104156] Sun, 25 July 2004 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TheGunrun is currently offline  TheGunrun
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LOL. Im ok with this as long as you do keep the bashing lvl down. Bashing only leads to more bashing... Smile As long as you keep monitering the topics for bashing and such and able to shut them down im ok.

Luahl... Razz



P.S. Watch out for abusive moderators.


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Topic abductions [message #104197] Mon, 26 July 2004 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
warranto is currently offline  warranto
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I just want to revise something that I said earlier. More of clarification.

When I stated that no topics about forum members would be tolerated, I also mentioned that there were some exceptions to this, and after some thought, I wanted to clarify what the only exception regarding forum members are. If someone from this forum, that you know to be a fact that it is him, posts something in another forum that is detrimental to the Renegade community (such as cheat creation, insults to the community, admittance of cheating) then it will be allowed to be quoted here.

And yes, msgtpain, this was also developed in response to your initial post regarding a certain topic. I gave it some thought, and came up with this because it had been dne in the past, by myself as well. This isn't to save myself, but rather just to avoid being a hypocrite.
Topic abductions [message #104225] Mon, 26 July 2004 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
msgtpain is currently offline  msgtpain
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dude.. I just like to play devil's advocate.. you know that Wink

I could give a shit what you lock and leave open.. I'm not that anal Smile
Topic abductions [message #104262] Mon, 26 July 2004 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
warranto is currently offline  warranto
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pfff, yes you are, look at the number of pitts bans there are Razz

I know your playing devil's advocate, it still doesn't mean they're not legitimate concerns. You just happened to be the one to bring them up, so I directed the responses to you.

Yeesh, people take me far to seriously sometimes. What am I? A lawyer or something?
Topic abductions [message #104598] Wed, 28 July 2004 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SuperFlyingEngi

Plus Aircraftkiller holds special sway with Crimson because they're friends, so he gets more say in matters than you do, I believe, as evidenced by the ACK filter.

ACK ACK ACK ACK.


Isn't there supposed to be freedom of speech? Isn't there supposed to be equal rights? Aparrently not, seeing as though Aircraftkiller ties special relations with Crimson.
Topic abductions [message #104602] Wed, 28 July 2004 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aircraftkiller is currently offline  Aircraftkiller
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No, there isn't any freedom of speech or "equal rights" on a fucking Internet forum...
Topic abductions [message #104614] Wed, 28 July 2004 15:51 Go to previous message
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Aircraftkiller

No, there isn't any freedom of speech or "equal rights" on a fucking Internet forum...

There's never any lack of stupidity though, as everyone's favorite idiot is always quick to remind us...
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