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Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983750] Wed, 05 February 2003 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Regardless, ACK cannot release the mutant lab to the community without permission of some kind from westwood.
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983749] Wed, 05 February 2003 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
I do not wish to have my work imported.
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983748] Fri, 07 February 2003 03:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
DO NOT STEAL MY WORK!

Better Seagle?

[ February 07, 2003, 14:31: Message edited by: maytridy ]
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983747] Fri, 07 February 2003 04:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Feel free to import mine, except the large building in the middle of C&C_Gigantomachy. You need to ask for that one, as it's my map signature (it appears in every map I make in some form or another)
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983746] Fri, 07 February 2003 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Just to reiterate guys, anyone can import your work to look at it.

I think you mean to say "Don't use my models in your mod", not "Don't import my work"
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983745] Fri, 07 February 2003 07:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by Seagle:
Just to reiterate guys, anyone can import your work to look at it.

I think you mean to say "Don't use my s in your mod", not "Don't import my work"

humm seagle not be to rude but maybe they did mean it in the way not at all to import their work maybe not ... who knows [Wink] [Big Grin]
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983744] Fri, 07 February 2003 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
If anyone wants to import my work, you must email me (dead4ayear@msn.com) and will say yes if you agree to give credits for my model to me.

Hmmmmm... can't wait for C&C_Land! *grins and tap fingers togther* I mean it looks like great map! I just want to... play it! I would never import that prison center! (or "mutant" center [Roll Eyes] )
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983743] Fri, 07 February 2003 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by dead4ayear2:
If anyone wants to import my work, you must email me (dead4ayear@msn.com) and will say yes if you agree to give credits for my model to me.

Hmmmmm... can't wait for C&C_Land! *grins and tap fingers togther* I mean it looks like great map! I just want to... play it! I would never import that prison center! (or "mutant" center [Roll Eyes] )

Guess what? Because of you, I'm editing the map to take out the Mutant Lab. Hope you're happy about that... Thievery will not be tolerated.
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983742] Fri, 07 February 2003 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
No! [Frown]

[ February 07, 2003, 21:23: Message edited by: imdgr8one ]
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983741] Fri, 07 February 2003 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Ack are you serous? It in all due respect it seems kinda childish. Anyway, you know how you can freeze stuff in renX, well i think it would be a idea if they could make it so there was an option to freeze it with a password, and have a way you could export that password in with the w3d file so even if they did extract it, it would be all but useless.
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983740] Fri, 07 February 2003 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by Cpo64:
Ack are you serous? It in all due respect it seems kinda childish. Anyway, you know how you can freeze stuff in renX, well i think it would be a idea if they could make it so there was an option to freeze it with a password, and have a way you could export that password in with the w3d file so even if they did extract it, it would be all but useless.

What's childish is this guy going around saying "Neener neener, you release that map and I'll import and steal stuff of yours from it! You can't stop me! Hahaha!"
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983739] Fri, 07 February 2003 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
I never said I was gonna steal it! I might want to make a SP level for myself! Besides, I can make my own prison center! Hmph!

I don't know why you even care that much anyway. It's not even your prison center. It's westwood's.

[ February 07, 2003, 21:47: Message edited by: dead4ayear2 ]
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983738] Fri, 07 February 2003 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by bouncer24:
quote:
Originally posted by Seagle:
Just to reiterate guys, anyone can import your work to look at it.

I think you mean to say "Don't use my s in your mod", not "Don't import my work"

humm seagle not be to rude but maybe they did mean it in the way not at all to import their work maybe not ... who knows [Wink] [Big Grin]
bouncer, importing someone's work into gmax is the equivalent of reading a copyrighted book or listening to a CD. It's perfectly legal, and the author can't stop you from doing it.
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983737] Sat, 08 February 2003 05:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by dead4ayear2:
I never said I was gonna steal it! I might want to make a SP level for myself! Besides, I can make my own prison center! Hmph!

I don't know why you even care that much anyway. It's not even your prison center. It's westwood's.

It's not a prison center. It's a Mutant Lab, and it was given to me... Therefore it is mine.
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983736] Fri, 07 February 2003 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Hey ACK why dont you just get off your high horse and quit trying to start some stupid "holy war" about westwoods....COUGH....your stuff.

Nobody really cares....you arent going to do anything but enflame people into doing just what you are screaming for them not to do....they are probably already doing it in japan....what are you gonna do....sue them????

You just need to shut the hell up and quit whining about something that you dont have any clue about....you cannot stop anyone from looking at your work......looking at and plagerizing are two totally different things.

That's like calling a window shopper a shop lifter.

Stick to what you know.....you are not a lawyer......you dont even have a clue as to how the copyright laws read.....and you certainly arent gonna get a law degree living at home with mommy and daddy.

AND....dont message me while i am testing online again......i dont care that you think i make crappy maps......westwood/EA doesnt hold you in that high of respects either.

That was pretty stupid on your part to use your beta testing nick and expect me to be clueless.

I would suggest you GROW THE HELL UP and get a life.

They threw you a few scraps and you're tryin to turn a bunch of westwoods rejects into a pile of gold.....i got news for ya ACK.....you still havent got it right or westwood wouldnt have stated that they had to fix your map that they gave you in the last update.

And dont expect me to get out my flame retardent suit either......I've took so many flames from you before i didnt like you that now that i dont like you it doesnt even bother me anymore.

AND ALSO....While i'm on a roll....TELL WESTWOOD IT'S Nod not NOD......you stupid ACK Hole......WHY DONT YOU CORRECT THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE GAME TOO WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.

http://westwood.ea.com/games/ccuniverse/tiberiansun/index.html

How many "ACK the english teacher" spelling errors can you spot on the WESTWOODS own website.....the people who invented the brotherhood of NOD

Why dont you go be your persnickety know it all self and tell THEM that they cant even properly spell a name that they made up?????

The only reason i posted in this thread in the first place was to bring the fact to your attention that i know it was you and your childish little snipe remarks yesterday.

You're real name has to be Stuart......Stu Pedasso

NOD_________NOD_________NOD_________NOD_NOD____
NOD_________NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD
NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_____NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_____NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_________NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD
NOD_________NOD_________NOD_________NOD_NOD____


Oh.....and by the way.....anything i release to the public....IMPORT...EXTRACT....MODIFY.....AND MAKE IT YOUR OWN.....i dont care......i still have the originals and they will always be mine and available to anyone who wants them.

And i wont file a law suit on you either........unlike these lawsuit happy money grubbers who think that everything they have a name in is going to make them rich....reguardless of who they have to step all over to get what they believe is owed to them by society.

IT'S A GAME ACK HOLE.....GET....A....LIFE!

Go to your family doctor and get a prescription of prozac or paxil or something......the way you are acting some people might actually think you are a paraniod schizophrenic.

Eric.

[ February 08, 2003, 01:19: Message edited by: SGT.May ]
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983735] Fri, 07 February 2003 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by SGT.May:
Hey ACK why dont you just get off your high horse and quit trying to start some stupid "holy war" about westwoods....COUGH....your stuff.

Nobody really cares....you arent going to do anything but enflame people into doing just what you are screaming for them not to do....they are probably already doing it in japan....what are you gonna do....sue them????

You just need to shut the hell up and quit whining about something that you dont have any clue about....you cannot stop anyone from looking at your work......looking at and plagerizing are two totally different things.

That's like calling a window shopper a shop lifter.

Stick to what you know.....you are not a lawyer......you dont even have a clue as to how the copyright laws read.....and you certainly arent gonna get a law degree living at home with mommy and daddy.

AND....dont message me while i am testing online again......i dont care that you think i make crappy maps......westwood/EA doesnt hold you in that high of respects either.

That was pretty stupid on your part to use your beta testing nick and expect me to be clueless.

I would suggest you GROW THE HELL UP and get a life.

They threw you a few scraps and you're tryin to turn a bunch of westwoods rejects into a pile of gold.....i got news for ya ACK.....you still havent got it right or westwood wouldnt have stated that they had to fix your map that they gave you in the last update.

And dont expect me to get out my flame retardent suit either......I've took so many flames from you before i didnt like you that now that i dont like you it doesnt even bother me anymore.

AND ALSO....While i'm on a roll....TELL WESTWOOD IT'S Nod not NOD......you stupid ACK Hole......WHY DONT YOU CORRECT THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE GAME TOO WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.

http://westwood.ea.com/games/ccuniverse/tiberiansun/index.html

How many "ACK the english teacher" spelling errors can you spot on the WESTWOODS own website.....the people who invented the brotherhood of NOD

Why dont you go be your persnickety know it all self and tell THEM that they cant even properly spell a name that they made up?????

The only reason i posted in this thread in the first place was to bring the fact to your attention that i know it was you and your childish little snipe remarks yesterday.

You're real name has to be Stuart......Stu Pedasso

NOD_________NOD_________NOD_________NOD_NOD____
NOD_________NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD
NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_____NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_____NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_________NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD
NOD_________NOD_________NOD_________NOD_NOD____


Oh.....and by the way.....anything i release to the public....IMPORT...EXTRACT....MODIFY.....AND MAKE IT YOUR OWN.....i dont care......i still have the originals and they will always be mine and available to anyone who wants them.

And i wont file a law suit on you either........unlike these lawsuit happy money grubbers who think that everything they have a name in is going to make them rich....reguardless of who they have to step all over to get what they believe is owed to them by society.

IT'S A GAME ACK HOLE.....GET....A....LIFE!

Go to your family doctor and get a prescription of prozac or paxil or something......the way you are acting some people might actually think you are a paraniod schizophrenic.

Eric.

What he said. [Big Grin]
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983734] Fri, 07 February 2003 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by SGT.May:
Hey ACK why dont you just get off your high horse and quit trying to start some stupid "holy war" about westwoods....COUGH....your stuff.

Nobody really cares....you arent going to do anything but enflame people into doing just what you are screaming for them not to do....they are probably already doing it in japan....what are you gonna do....sue them????

You just need to shut the hell up and quit whining about something that you dont have any clue about....you cannot stop anyone from looking at your work......looking at and plagerizing are two totally different things.

That's like calling a window shopper a shop lifter.

Stick to what you know.....you are not a lawyer......you dont even have a clue as to how the copyright laws read.....and you certainly arent gonna get a law degree living at home with mommy and daddy.

AND....dont message me while i am testing online again......i dont care that you think i make crappy maps......westwood/EA doesnt hold you in that high of respects either.

That was pretty stupid on your part to use your beta testing nick and expect me to be clueless.

I would suggest you GROW THE HELL UP and get a life.

They threw you a few scraps and you're tryin to turn a bunch of westwoods rejects into a pile of gold.....i got news for ya ACK.....you still havent got it right or westwood wouldnt have stated that they had to fix your map that they gave you in the last update.

And dont expect me to get out my flame retardent suit either......I've took so many flames from you before i didnt like you that now that i dont like you it doesnt even bother me anymore.

AND ALSO....While i'm on a roll....TELL WESTWOOD IT'S Nod not NOD......you stupid ACK Hole......WHY DONT YOU CORRECT THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE GAME TOO WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.

http://westwood.ea.com/games/ccuniverse/tiberiansun/index.html

How many "ACK the english teacher" spelling errors can you spot on the WESTWOODS own website.....the people who invented the brotherhood of NOD

Why dont you go be your persnickety know it all self and tell THEM that they cant even properly spell a name that they made up?????

The only reason i posted in this thread in the first place was to bring the fact to your attention that i know it was you and your childish little snipe remarks yesterday.

You're real name has to be Stuart......Stu Pedasso

NOD_________NOD_________NOD_________NOD_NOD____
NOD_________NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD
NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_____NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_____NOD_NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD_____NOD
NOD_________NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD_____NOD_NOD_NOD
NOD_________NOD_________NOD_________NOD_NOD____


Oh.....and by the way.....anything i release to the public....IMPORT...EXTRACT....MODIFY.....AND MAKE IT YOUR OWN.....i dont care......i still have the originals and they will always be mine and available to anyone who wants them.

And i wont file a law suit on you either........unlike these lawsuit happy money grubbers who think that everything they have a name in is going to make them rich....reguardless of who they have to step all over to get what they believe is owed to them by society.

IT'S A GAME ACK HOLE.....GET....A....LIFE!

Go to your family doctor and get a prescription of prozac or paxil or something......the way you are acting some people might actually think you are a paraniod schizophrenic.

Eric.

WOW.
I think he's quite right [Big Grin]
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983733] Fri, 07 February 2003 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
WS's mutant lab (in C&C Land) is highly innacurate compared to the original one that appeared in TD and RA.
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983732] Sat, 08 February 2003 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
I'm headed to bed so I don't feel like making a lengthy reply, except to say that ack was transferred ownership of certain 3D material from WS. I don't think he is too far out of line to protect things that someone says they are diliberately going to steal and release as their own.

As for all the debate on the magnitude of the feat/effort/accomplishment of his finishing C&C_Glacier, please get over it everyone. Ack has proven himself to be a quality map maker, enough for WS to entrust him with ownership of models and to complete their unfinished maps. All the bashing is just that...putting him down to try and hurt him, or the old green monster. Life is too short to be filled with hate, especially for someone that you have never even met, or really know at all.

Like him or not, Ack has contributed a lot to this community, and you cannot really fault him for being picky with the 3d material he was given ownership of. Maybe he wants the unique units and structures to stay that way...unique and in high-quality maps, instead of things like the old "BuzzMod Version 15" that were just a hodgepodge of every map, model, and script he (TheBuzzer aka FlyingBuzz) could steal.

Personally I like the idea of digitally fingerprinting/signing 3D data. Then the data can be released to the public, and if someone claims it as theirs the rightful author can be proven.

Argh so much for not making a lengthy reply...I'm half asleep at this very moment and amazed at my lack of typos...goodnight/day.
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983731] Sat, 08 February 2003 00:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by SGT.May:
Hey ACK why dont you just get off your high horse and quit trying to start some stupid "holy war" about westwoods....COUGH....your stuff.

For someone talking about a high horse, you've made like two or three maps and act as if you know all and see all. Judging from your "Afganistan" map, you know very little...

quote:
Nobody really cares....you arent going to do anything but enflame people into doing just what you are screaming for them not to do....they are probably already doing it in japan....what are you gonna do....sue them????


So basically, you're flaming me, so that's okay... In a topic where I'm trying to prevent thieves? When you start bellyaching about people taking your (albeit crappy) models, I'll remember to point you to this thread.

quote:
You just need to shut the hell up and quit whining about something that you dont have any clue about....you cannot stop anyone from looking at your work......looking at and plagerizing are two totally different things.


You write a huge post and tell me to be quiet. My hat's off to you, you're an idiot.

quote:
Stick to what you know.....you are not a lawyer......you dont even have a clue as to how the copyright laws read.....and you certainly arent gonna get a law degree living at home with mommy and daddy.


You don't have a clue. Shoot off the copyright laws if you apparently know so much about them.

quote:
AND....dont message me while i am testing online again......i dont care that you think i make crappy maps......westwood/EA doesnt hold you in that high of respects either.


Apparently, you do care because you're sitting here complaining about it. I see Westwood giving me stuff to work with and helping me. I see you making shoddy maps and models, then proclaiming yourself cock of the walk. Whatever floats your boat, I assume.

quote:
I would suggest you GROW THE HELL UP and get a life.


Do you have any kind of true argument? Usually the usage of "get a life" means you've run out of semi-intelligent things to say. This would be your case.

quote:
They threw you a few scraps and you're tryin to turn a bunch of westwoods rejects into a pile of gold.....i got news for ya ACK.....you still havent got it right or westwood wouldnt have stated that they had to fix your map that they gave you in the last update.


I'm sure you'd know what a reject is, having made Afganistan and all... Apparently, I got it right, because one of my maps went into the patch as an official part of the game. Apparently enough, you're an idiot: I had to fix the map by myself after finishing it off to begin with. It makes one wonder, because I had posted many updates saying I was fixing the map... Idiot.

quote:
And dont expect me to get out my flame retardent suit either......I've took so many flames from you before i didnt like you that now that i dont like you it doesnt even bother me anymore.


You can dish it out, but you can't take it? What a pansy.

quote:
AND ALSO....While i'm on a roll....TELL WESTWOOD IT'S Nod not NOD......you stupid ACK Hole......WHY DONT YOU CORRECT THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE GAME TOO WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.


...What an idiot. You astound me with your seemingly limitless ignorance. Look in-game: It says "Nod" for almost everything. That outweighs any precedence of "NOD" you see anywhere else.

quote:
IT'S A GAME ACK HOLE.....GET....A....LIFE!

Go to your family doctor and get a prescription of prozac or paxil or something......the way you are acting some people might actually think you are a paraniod schizophrenic.

Eric.

Yes, it's a game. How long did it take you to figure that out?

I don't need medication. You're judging me from purposely irritating you to do something like this? You actually posted something this long because of something I supposedly said?

And you said I needed to get a life. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983730] Sat, 08 February 2003 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
wow, many quotes. [Eek!] [Big Grin]

[ February 08, 2003, 07:59: Message edited by: OrcaPilot26 ]
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983729] Sat, 08 February 2003 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
I call that mutant center a prison center because it looks like the prison center in one of the TD Nod levels where you had to destroy the gdi base and rescue the prisoners.
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983728] Sat, 08 February 2003 01:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by aircraftkiller2001:
quote:
Originally posted by SGT.May:
Hey ACK why dont you just get off your high horse and quit trying to start some stupid "holy war" about westwoods....COUGH....your stuff.

For someone talking about a high horse, you've made like two or three maps and act as if you know all and see all. Judging from your "Afganistan" map, you know very little...

quote:
Nobody really cares....you arent going to do anything but enflame people into doing just what you are screaming for them not to do....they are probably already doing it in japan....what are you gonna do....sue them????


So basically, you're flaming me, so that's okay... In a topic where I'm trying to prevent thieves? When you start bellyaching about people taking your (albeit crappy) models, I'll remember to point you to this thread.

quote:
You just need to shut the hell up and quit whining about something that you dont have any clue about....you cannot stop anyone from looking at your work......looking at and plagerizing are two totally different things.


You write a huge post and tell me to be quiet. My hat's off to you, you're an idiot.

quote:
Stick to what you know.....you are not a lawyer......you dont even have a clue as to how the copyright laws read.....and you certainly arent gonna get a law degree living at home with mommy and daddy.


You don't have a clue. Shoot off the copyright laws if you apparently know so much about them.

quote:
AND....dont message me while i am testing online again......i dont care that you think i make crappy maps......westwood/EA doesnt hold you in that high of respects either.


Apparently, you do care because you're sitting here complaining about it. I see Westwood giving me stuff to work with and helping me. I see you making shoddy maps and models, then proclaiming yourself cock of the walk. Whatever floats your boat, I assume.

quote:
I would suggest you GROW THE HELL UP and get a life.


Do you have any kind of true argument? Usually the usage of "get a life" means you've run out of semi-intelligent things to say. This would be your case.

quote:
They threw you a few scraps and you're tryin to turn a bunch of westwoods rejects into a pile of gold.....i got news for ya ACK.....you still havent got it right or westwood wouldnt have stated that they had to fix your map that they gave you in the last update.


I'm sure you'd know what a reject is, having made Afganistan and all... Apparently, I got it right, because one of my maps went into the patch as an official part of the game. Apparently enough, you're an idiot: I had to fix the map by myself after finishing it off to begin with. It makes one wonder, because I had posted many updates saying I was fixing the map... Idiot.

quote:
And dont expect me to get out my flame retardent suit either......I've took so many flames from you before i didnt like you that now that i dont like you it doesnt even bother me anymore.


You can dish it out, but you can't take it? What a pansy.

quote:
AND ALSO....While i'm on a roll....TELL WESTWOOD IT'S Nod not NOD......you stupid ACK Hole......WHY DONT YOU CORRECT THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE GAME TOO WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.


...What an idiot. You astound me with your seemingly limitless ignorance. Look in-game: It says "Nod" for almost everything. That outweighs any precedence of "NOD" you see anywhere else.

quote:
IT'S A GAME ACK HOLE.....GET....A....LIFE!

Go to your family doctor and get a prescription of prozac or paxil or something......the way you are acting some people might actually think you are a paraniod schizophrenic.

Eric.

Yes, it's a game. How long did it take you to figure that out?

I don't need medication. You're judging me from purposely irritating you to do something like this? You actually posted something this long because of something I supposedly said?

And you said I needed to get a life. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Congrats, you've been 0wned by Aircraftkiller2001. [Big Grin]
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983727] Sat, 08 February 2003 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by dead4ayear2:
I call that mutant center a prison center because it looks like the prison center in one of the TD Nod levels where you had to destroy the gdi base and rescue the prisoners.

Actually, mutant lab and prison facility are incorrect terminology for that structure. In TD it was reffered to as a Technology Center.
Don't want your work imported? Just say so here [message #-983726] Sat, 08 February 2003 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Anonymous
I'll brb. I'm gonna go play TD to find out the truth about this.

Edit: Yes, it does say "prison" on it and in the video, the guy that works for kane as well calls it a prison center. I couldn't get a screen shot because I tryed and it's all really dark.

[ February 08, 2003, 09:23: Message edited by: dead4ayear2 ]
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