| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980893] |
Sun, 11 August 2002 23:26   |
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Blackhand. Gives enemy less points, and you'd better be able to hit em in the head regardless of what youre using, or you will die everytime anyways.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980892] |
Tue, 13 August 2002 00:02 |
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FOR THE LAST TIME!!
Haovc/Skaura and Deadeye/Blackhand are all equal, neither has the advantage. People who think one is better than the other, you're n00b at sniping.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980891] |
Tue, 13 August 2002 00:41 |
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Yes, if you need two body shots to win a shootout, you are NOT a sniper. You belong in the old west or in a regular server as infantry. Once again, tunnel wars are ghey. They are NOT sniping.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980890] |
Tue, 13 August 2002 07:55 |
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Tunnel wars are sniping, it's apart of Renegade so it's sniping. It may not be like RtCW but you need to adapt to it.
If the enemy is faster then you, you should never try and headshot them directly in 1v1. Get their chest/body, strategy makes the better player.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980889] |
Tue, 13 August 2002 09:18 |
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*Sigh* Although the Havocs/Sakuras do cost more, body shots do more damage. Flame Trail? Not easy to follow on most maps, and if the perosn hides, while you looking for them, Bam. I prefer the Havoc/Sakuras more. 2 body shots. ANY charcter. Ecepting the free soldiers. All free soldiers can be killed with a single shot. Any inf you pay for cant. Unless im mistaken. But, TAR Sydney has 150 Health, 100 Armor. So, according to ACK (Thanks for the info) A single shot would kill her. So, would you like to be a few hit kill sniper, who does moderate damage, or a butt-kickings double body shot commando? Just my input.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980888] |
Thu, 15 August 2002 02:26 |
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Unfortunately tunnel wars are a part of this game. Yes, I understand that. But by definition sniping is hitting the target from a distance, and trying not to be seen. If you get into a situation where you see someone in a tunnel, then of course you need to duke it out. That's not what I'm adressing. I'm talking about "sniper" servers where I sit in the field waiting for a target and noone shows up, because all the 10 yr olds are doing " fun " tunnel wars. If that's what you like, so be it. Host an infantry server. But don't call it a sniper server. See the difference?
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980887] |
Thu, 15 August 2002 02:49 |
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I think that they are just as good as eachother, for instance, havoc/sakura do a lot of damage but, you can see where there shooting from because the little blue laser leaves a trail for a few seconds so the enimy can see where you're shooting from, because they use the ramjet rifle.
Wth deadeye/blackhand they use the regular sniper rifle which uses bullets instead of a laser; so it doesn't do as much damage but the enimy won't know where you are shooting from. So if you don't want to be seen I would use Deadeye/BlackHand but if you just want to kill people I would use Havoc/Sakura. That's just me though.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980886] |
Fri, 16 August 2002 17:18 |
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stfu havoc has 50 more helth, and his gun is a little stronger, deadeye has 50 less health then havoc and a gun that isnt as strong, but u can c havocs bullets and u cant c deadeyes so its a advantage to have deadeye in a long range attack and a advantage to have havoc in a short ranged battle.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980884] |
Fri, 16 August 2002 07:49 |
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i agree with ADM on one thing, theyre both the same... 1 shot kills ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
HOWEVER if your a good sniper use hav/sakura. i know that sounds the wrong way round, but if your good you wont die very often. for example when i snipe i die maybe 4-5 times in an hour
but the best thing about the havoc/sakura is the blue bullet, because it lets people know where u are.
the more ppl know where you are, the more come after you.... and the more kills i get ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980883] |
Fri, 16 August 2002 08:47 |
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Which sniper do i choose? It's hard to pic one, I got trueadm, assud, yohame, vash and more who can snipe for me ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) I just get the sniper who is online
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980882] |
Fri, 16 August 2002 08:53 |
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Whats wrong with you guys, "you can see the bullet from havocs gun" who cares! if your as good a sniper you say you are you can kill them before they kill you. for example the other day i took a havoc and took a perch on top of the building in city{Nod had no defense so i could get up there" once up there i shot the hell out of everyone who ran across my sites. after a few kills people knew where i was, so i just public chat and say "i'm on top of the building get me if you can" and they did, i shot everyone one of them who came up to get me, since they where so distraced getting the sniper they didnt see the med tanks rolling into there base. Havoc is by far a better sniper. i dont mind if i'm in an artilery and a sniper plunks away at me, he is just wasting ammo. but as soon as a havoc opens fire on me i back the hell up, those bullets do some damage! the extra health havoc has{50 more} along side the fact that he has camo{gotta love the snow camo on the mountain map} and his gun does so much damage making it easy to kill all units with just two shot, and making him very usefull for rushing, beacon placing, tunnel escort, and provides better cover than a normal sniper. the 500 more dollars is not to much to pay for such a great unit.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980881] |
Fri, 16 August 2002 13:27 |
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Each sniper has distint advantage/disadvantages.
Deadeye/BlackHand:
+Can't see the tracer, its there, but set to invisible.
+Sprite (GDI) is slightly smaller than Havoc
+Less points to nme when killed.
+Cost
-Slightly longer reload time, (miliseconds)
-less Health
-Less Damage
-No extra Camoflauge
Havoc/Sakura
+More Health
+More Damage
+More camoflauge (GDI)
+Slightly less reload time (milliseconds)
-Tracer is very visible
-Cost
-Havoc is slightly larger than deadeye
-More points to nme when killed
Statisically, they are equal, but that is all a matter of preference, and skill. If you can get one shot kills, and take the deadeye/BH.
However, tunnel confrontations are the deadeye/BH killer, that extra 50 health and extra damage from a Havoc/Sakura can be the turning point in any unprovoked close quarter attack.
Personally, I do use Havoc/Sakura, but that is when I feel that Deadeye/BH is more useful in "darker" maps, like field, because if you know how to snipe properly, then you can get your head shots, and will constantly be on the move.
Either way, both have their ups and downs, and like I said, its a matter of preference.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980880] |
Sat, 17 August 2002 10:07 |
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If you are good, like people I see every day (HS clan), then you won't need to worry about being traced. A sniper uses quick reactions in the sides of their eyes. They use instinct and map knowledge to their advantage.
So the best snipers DON'T HIDE they move around like masters and shoot where the shots are most needed. The main reason why Deadeye/Havoc are equal is because of the points lost if you die.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980879] |
Sat, 17 August 2002 11:18 |
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As was stated it's more of a matter of personal preference as to which sniper you choose. I personally prefer either deadeye or the black hand sniper. However most of the time if lodged in a close quarter battle I will use Havoc/Sakura.
[ August 17, 2002, 18:18: Message edited by: f22raptor ]
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980878] |
Tue, 20 August 2002 12:52 |
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ADM, only a foolish sniper will stay in the same position.
I move after every kill. Moving helps because the person whom you killed, will (if they have the money, or give a ****) get a sniper and find you!
That way, you still get the drop on them.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980876] |
Wed, 21 August 2002 01:05 |
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"So the best snipers DON'T HIDE they move around like masters and shoot where the shots are most needed. The main reason why Deadeye/Havoc are equal is because of the points lost if you die"
Silly person.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980874] |
Wed, 21 August 2002 04:14 |
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"So the best snipers DON'T HIDE they move around like masters and shoot where the shots are most needed. The main reason why Deadeye/Havoc are equal is because of the points lost if you die"
I said the best snipers DO NOT HIDE and I said they move around like a master would. Where did I ever say to stay still?? Learn to read, you're showing yourself up.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980873] |
Thu, 22 August 2002 10:14 |
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You can trace every shot no matter what sniper rifle your using.. but Havoc/Sak just make it easier. you see... when i don't know where a sniper is, but he knows where i am, i go out in the open AGAINST the wall, also duck, jump, whatever, BUT if you got normal detail on, and good sound (and if the enemy sniper is a decent shot) he will try and shoot at you.. when he does, he will miss (hopefully) but since he missed, the bullet will hit the wall and make a sound, now real quick look at the wall, find the bullet hole.. the bullet makes a indent from where it was shot so you can easily tell where the shot came from, then aim over to that direction, and shoot him (but don't miss!)
i'm sure that the info i just handed out will help many a sniper
[ August 22, 2002, 17:16: Message edited by: TestGun ]
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980872] |
Thu, 22 August 2002 10:33 |
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TestGun, that won't really help. Lag causes the bullet holes to not appear sometimes. If they were good enough by the time you look at the bullet hole, you're dead or injured.
Instead of looking for the bullet hole, try and get cover and wait till you think that they have lost focus on you.
Use third person view to view behind the rock. The enemy should make a move to see where you are, if you have good eyesight you can see them move and then act appropiately.
That's not the best method, by no means, but to be a better sniper you need to learn things independently. Once you reach that stage you will know the better method.
To become a very good sniper you don't mimic other snipers tactics, you make your own.
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| Which sniper do you choose? [message #-980871] |
Thu, 22 August 2002 12:48 |
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ADM, ever heard of implications? ffs, learn to think without words.
If you think I was insulting you my "IMPLYING" you stand still, you have misinterpreted, I at no time stated that you are either a bad sniper, or that you stand still. I was merely stating that "FOOLISH SNIPERS STAND STILL", that doesn't necessarily mean you.
Demo: I could honestly care less about clan matchs, if you really want one, I don't mind participating. Furthermore:
"If you know it all better"
I never said that either, also, just because ADM says something that you agree/disagree with, doesn't make it fact. You're getting quite a bit ahead of yourself my friend.
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