I really did give it a lot of tries, but now Ive just finally given up on it, firepower or not great firepower doesn't make up for utterly horrid lack of armor and very high cost.

Neither does the stealth which only really grants you the first shot before your blown to pieces.

They're not made for direct encounters. It's not Nod's answer to the Mammoth, the flame is.

But, stealths are excellent when moving with a tank rush. The enemy sees the other vehicles and moves to engage; leaving them open to the stealth tank's damaging rockets.

Stealth tank's rockets are not necessarily direct fire. Like the mammoth's missiles, they can glide over small hilltops and strike a target indirectly. It's quite useful for hit-and-run. Another perk is running people over, they never know what happened. In one newbie game, I ran a person over several times; and he thought I was a sniper. The stealth is great for inspiring fear, and for bait, luring enemies into traps, or setting them.

Nod and GDI's basic units ARE alike. But several of Nod's units require different tactics. Nod is finesse, speed and stealth. GDI is strength by volume and firepower.

Try it. When approaching a enemy tank, don't go head to head. Try and avoid it, then hit it from the rear when the driver is not looking. Or, if they see you, dodge or run.

Try stealth tank one more time. Just don't try to take out mammoths 1v1.

What happends is the moment you fire, no matter what other tanks are around, THEY GO STRAIGHT AFTER YOU, you as the s-tank are the most expensive yet weakest tank, a s-tank does almost as much damage as a flame against buildings and yet you are twice as easy to kill. They are gonna go after you if they know what they are doing.

Against some pretty decent mammoths or mediums your like a blood puddle in front of mosquitos those turrets lock onto you right away.

Getting behind mammoths doesn't work, they have the camera follows turret option on and they can flip the turret RIGHT around, only works against newbies and on tourneys they are getting fewer and fewer.

As I stated you get the first shot, but then your toast, retreat is impossible unless you are right around a corner. If you try to run its simple for them to keep firing at you even when you stealth.

As for firing around a corner, retreating back, moving up and firing around it again...
It just doesn't work against the good players, the main reasons why are they keep firing at you and you keep firing at them.
The stealth does more damage, but they can keep going longer and you can't hide around that corner forever. Against mammoths it takes too long, against mediums they catch up to you and make you pay. And buying a stealth for the sole purpose of hunting humvees and mlrs is ridiculous. costant corner hit and run games is time consuming.

You both repair your own tanks or have someone else do it and get nowhere. What happends in these games is people gang up and have a big war maybe 3 vs 3 tanks to break the stalemate that newbies get into all the time. In these at least one tank will die usually, its a big standoff and the stealths inability to keep up in this type of battle makes it worthless because it can't just go out there and duke it out with that measly armor and losing it over a 600 light tank with more armor no one will take that kinda deal.

You cannot crush infantry or hit them when they are near you, against the good players the stealth turns as slow as other tanks, and they can keep moving outta the way. You can try and predict where they are gonna move next, but that still brings minimal success.

Its just not worth it, Ive scoped everything out and the stealth isn't worth it.

I like to use stealths as scouts if the hand is destroyed or to sneak behind buildings and shoot them. They will be more useful when aircraft come in, since the rockets track targets.

Your playing 900 creds for a tank that can squish infantry affectively. Get a blooddy buggy and go run over all the infantry you want!

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Originally posted by Rude:
everyone who posted about squishing infantry, just think about what your doing.

Your playing 900 creds for a tank that can squish infantry affectively. Get a blooddy buggy and go run over all the infantry you want!

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Then those Sydney PICs and Havocs take you out.

The ST is a methodical killer that is best used for running down infantry in the open field and sniping buildings from a distance during a flame rush. Just the same it seems I ALWAYS have some ST coward holding up our rush while he tries to run for cover after eating one hit. I cannot even count the times I was one flame tank in a group and all of us got held up by one retreating coward ST. If FF was on I would just nuke him because I consider the tank a huge waste of cash and a loner vehicle for people who don't work well with the team.

Very few applications. Sitting duck. Typically a Mobile Artillery or Flame Tank does the same job better and quicker.

ps - i know it has to be on botth computers to be effective or to be used as a cheat against your younger/weaker/dumber sister lok im gonna hav fun against my friend tommorow !!!!

But yes i agree.
it not worth anything in combat.
UNLESS its a rush with 4 - 5 or more
then they are effective.

HAIL KANE

[ March 29, 2002: Message edited by: Eqvaliser ]

Don't like them. Don't use them.

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Originally posted by jmcdavel2:
If the infantry dodges you and you don't mind decloaking, you can fire your powerful rockets, it will take no more than 2 hits to kill a guy.

I like to use stealths as scouts if the hand is destroyed or to sneak behind buildings and shoot them. They will be more useful when aircraft come in, since the rockets track targets.

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If the infantry dodges you and you fire your missiles, they curve right over them and miss completely if your close, it might be a bug, but whatever it is it makes it impossible for the stealth to kill infantry super close

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Originally posted by aircraftkiller2001:

Then those Sydney PICs and Havocs take you out.

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Syney PICS take stealths out almost as quickly, killing something 3 times more expensive..

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Originally posted by ownjooall:
Stealth Tank buyers drive me nuts. In general, I don't consider them team players one bit.

The ST is a methodical killer that is best used for running down infantry in the open field and sniping buildings from a distance during a flame rush. Just the same it seems I ALWAYS have some ST coward holding up our rush while he tries to run for cover after eating one hit. I cannot even count the times I was one flame tank in a group and all of us got held up by one retreating coward ST. If FF was on I would just nuke him because I consider the tank a huge waste of cash and a loner vehicle for people who don't work well with the team.

Very few applications. Sitting duck. Typically a Mobile Artillery or Flame Tank does the same job better and quicker.

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Right on, not only does the stealth suck at what its SUPPOSED to do, but it also ruins the game and ruins the owners score and the teams score because this is a team game and the stealth ain't worth moot in a team.

1. Same Armor as light tank (100/100 more)
2. Same attack as medium tank (its 90, a mediums is 60, so it would be reduced)
3. Cost reduced to 800

Now with the firepower decrease, it IS a better tank with its other two pluses.

But think about this, it is basically a faster medium but with 100/100 less armor and stealth ability (puny in my opinion). Balanced or not your guys call.

To tell the truth I would really have it my way, since even though its a stealth tank it just has no use in high scoring tourny games, now its less stealthy, and more direct approach. Whine all you want but it still has stealth yet can be used in team games more often with its decent armor/firepower/cost and high speed instead of crappy armor/superfirepower/high cost.

The cost is the only bonus here and its not that big. For the extra 200 over a light tank, its basically the same but has a little more firepower (mediums 60, light is 50) and stealth.

Too much? I really don't think so. Remember a medium could still take it 1 vs 1 with its extra 100/100 armor. But it would be less of a loss.

Now it will be able to fight more directly and rely less on its stealth which is what makes it too weak and time consuming. Not a team player vehicle and thats what this game is about.

Its firepower is nice but it has no staying value, and in a team thats what counts, how long you can stay in and back them up.

When your retreating to repair all the time you end up doing nothing, especially when you make a mistake or the opponent tank driver is good and can spot you out and get you into a bad situation (happends a lot against the good players)

Paying 900 for something to attempt to run over infantry (and fail half the time) or hunt mrls is NOT worth it.

Oh, and against humvees, they drive up to the side of you and drive circles around you while firing, then with your weak armor they kill you quick. Yeah thats right, there have been many tales of humvees killing stealths, its common.

You just have to know how to use them properly.