i ALWAYS get a stealth, i can do pretty much anythhing wiht it. its fun destroying mamoth after mamotha after mamoth and them finally thinking, dam, its not worth it. all u do on a map like under, is if u c a mamoth wait until i reaches the tib. field go right right behind it and blast away, always even if it turns try and stay to the back of it i even destroy agt's fast, there really good against buildings 2, whats really fun on map under. u get 1 or 2 stealth tanks in the tib. field. one by the GDI bunker, and one on the ramp to the left once u exit gdi base, if u have that no matter what u r u get blown up

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But think about this, it is basically a faster medium but with 100/100 less armor and stealth ability (puny in my opinion). Balanced or not your guys call.

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Actually a medium tank has 200/200 more HP, which means it has twice as much HP as the ST.

To Destroy Big Tanks All You HAve TO Do Is Stay Somewhere And When You See A Tank Wait Till It Passes You THen Get Behind It And Fire!!!!!!

If you want a tank that is good for fighting battles, buy a mammoth tank, got it?

The stealth tank is one of the most effective weapons in the game. VM uses it more often then he uses a mammoth tank, and not because he can't afford either.

If westwood changed the stealth tank, it wouldn't be like it was in TD. So if you want to alter the stealth tank, make a mod, don't tell westwood how the tank should be. If the world was run soley on the way one person, espically yourself, thought it should be ran, there would be no human race.

(Oh, and if you are wondering why I said mammoths suck? They are too easy to hit, giving free points to the enemy, they are too slow for my liking so I cannot evade enemy shots, and they attract the attention of every enemy who sees one, turning it into a big "shoot me!" sign... I would rather have the relative incognito appearance of a medium tank).

FYI though, in a game on City the other day, I took out 3 MRLS, an engy or two, a PIC Sydney, and a Med Tank with my one Stealth. They all knew I was there once I showed up behind them, but they didn't really think I was a threat until two of the MRLS were dead and the other couldn't hit me. The Med Tank shots are easily dodged at range, and the MRLS can fire in a spread but one rocket doesn't do that much damage so you can dodge those fairly effectively too.

The only things you should fear in a Stealth are Mammoths for the firepower and PICs because you never know when one will pop up to ruin your day. And of course, fear the AGT, it knows where you live and it knows where you sleep.

When I want to win, yes I prefer classic f-tank rush or apc commando attack

I think too many s-tank on the field are useless. But 1 or 2 (not alone but with other units) can be useful to contest(not to gain) control of the field. If Nod let GDI gain total control of the field, Nod is on the way of defeat. Don't forget the GDI strength is in vehicles... Stopping them is necessary.

They say you should not take them out into the field unless there is a big war going on, and should remain near the base to stop attacks and be ready to retreat the moment odds aren't in your favor.

If the odds are even as much as balanced they say get outta there because stealths wont hold up and be able to contribute and keep the odds balanced. I agree.

I don't think ill be using them much, they are not point makers and are not support vehicles at all and in this game when you aren't playing to goof off those are the two most important things.

They are a newbies vehicle, no point in the big team games.

Stealth tanks are not effective until the AGT is disabled. Once it is disabled, choose a Black Hand (stealth), a Nuke Beacon, and a Stealth Tank... and have fun!

Stay as far away from the enemy as possible, and if there is a tank at the entrance to their base, sit back and wait for it to move. Or even fire a shot at it from a distance, re-cloak, and wait for it to move (if the enemy is smart, he'll stay where he is though).

Newbies Vehicle? lol. Leave the Stealth Tank to the people who know how to use it. You stick with what you're good at.

Stickman

NONE of the tourneys this is done because it wastes too much money, just jump in a apc and walk the last halfway. Or get in a buggy and drive it up to the halfway point.

Thats not what the stealth was used for, in games where people are playing for points and playing to really win, the stealth tank has no purpose.

Flame tanks are the rulers of no defense maps, and a lot of times your better off sneaking in a base on foot rather then in a large stealth tank which put you down an additional 900.

In tourney money doesn't flow freely...

1. When your stealth blows up if you use it to attack the base while you have a beacon and stealth troop your cover is blown

2. If you jump outta the vehicle your leaving a 900 dollar stealth tank for your opposition to use against you

3. The double stealth tactic is an overated peice of crap

4. Thank you for your time

Yesterday, as a simple gdi shotgunner, I saw a stealth tank roaming near our refinery. Obviously i followed him. The driver did was I intended, he jumped out his vehicle. This was a stealth BH...
Obviously, I jumped in his S-Tank, and drove on him when he was arming his nuke ! Then I couldn't resist to taunt him with a "lol"

The addition :

S-tank -----> 900
Stealth BH -> 400
Nuke-------->1000

Total : 2300 cash

For .... nothing ? No ! Wrong ! 2300 cash for giving GDI a brand new S-Tank -> LOOOOOOOOOOOL

If u really want to defend ur nuke with a vehicle, try with an apc. There is no stealth right, but apc get more armor, is faster, can shoot people at close range (S-tank can't do it), and if enemy steal ur vehicle this is not a strong weapon as a S-tank. And APC cost only 500...

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discuss, I will post why I think it sucks once I stop vomiting.
I really did give it a lot of tries, but now Ive just finally given up on it, firepower or not great firepower doesn't make up for utterly horrid lack of armor and very high cost.

Neither does the stealth which only really grants you the first shot before your blown to pieces.

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As for changing the stats, it's near perfect the way it is. In the beta test, we went for a week between patches where Nod almost always won because they'd do 'stank rushes'. Their rockets were too powerful against buildings and they had too much armor. I personally believe WW's intent was that no single vehicle would be most prevalent in any battle. Every vehicle has a practical purpose. You don't use an APC for tank-to-tank combat, why can't the Stank have specific purposes as well?

If you don't know how to use a stank, you're better off with a light tank or mobart. The light tank is a great front line tank with excellent armor and decent damage capability. The mobart is weak in armor, but packs a mean punch and should be behind the front lines. Buggies, APC's, Stanks, and Ftanks are specialty vehicles.

Nod also has some awesome infantry, so if the tank battle isn't working out too well, grab a black hand laser chain guy, a Raveshaw, or a Mendoza and use the maneuverability to your advantage.

[ April 04, 2002: Message edited by: Christine Korza ]

1. Go after structures - thanks to the beta testers the stealth is worthless in this area with its extremely weak armor. Doesn't do very much damage against structures.

2. Go after the harv - this is the ONLY thing that the stealth tank excels at over other vehicles

3. Go after infantry - good infantry can use their surroundings to their advantage, good infantry can avoid being crushed by moving properly and getting just close enough to the stealth so its missiles can't hit

4. Go after tanks - stealth loses 1 vs 1 against mediums easily, if you take an mlrs, good for you, because they are vehicles that must have support so if they don't it doesn't mean you as the stealth did anything right, they as a mlrs did something wrong. If they would have had just a little support your stealth wouldn't be able to do anything.

5. What everyone Ive talked to says they are for - hit n run, repair, go back and shoot them somemore, run, repair, repeat.

Its overrated and doesn't work in tourneys, theres never 1 tank out there for you to try and maneuver on to get a good shot and then do the tactic whittling them down.

When their are more then 1 tank, in fact a couple as their usually is, the hit and run of the stealth tank is WORTHLESS, you will die a couple moments after you de-stealth because the stealth tank lacks not only armor, but it has very little range and its missiles are unpredictable. It doesn't stealth fast enough to aid your escape, but even if it does its so easy to predict where the stank is heading. If there is a sydney PIC anywhere consider yourself screwed. The sydney and the tanks will take EXTREME high priority in targeting your weakly armored, expensive tank once it appears.

All your left to do camp in your base, TRYING to inch out and get those missiles to hit. If the enemy tanks aren't at your doorstep, there is still nothing you can do, if you go out of your bases safety into the battlefield you will loose everytime becuase its so easy to spot a stank, you barely have to even be close. Once your spotted its too long a trip to get back to where you can repair.

If they have a couple tanks, and you have a couple stanks, because they can't do what they are made for and retreat you will most likely loose most of your stanks even if you match them. The bigger losses will be in the stank drivers hands.

If there is a mix of tanks out there, they will still target your stank because its the most expensive yet most weakly armored main attack tank.

Worthless, you beta testers that personally ruined this tank will stick by your word, but you weakened this tank a little too much.

I did some calculations and found that it really isn't that much of a deal at all.

The stealth tank has HALF as much armor as a medium, but only about 30\% more firepower to compensate, Its stealth I believe is what comes with the extra 100 you pay. So wheres the deal?

I don't see why its so difficult to understand this, maybe some of you need to really take some time and play some tourneys against people that actually want to make points.